OT: Soccer: FC Barcelona pulls off the greatest comeback in sport history..

[phxspurfan]

lol worst sport in the world along with crickets

[diego]

You don't need to. If it's mathematically harder to score, it's mathematically harder to overcome a deficit. Simple as that.

You grew up with it, so you like it. I'm giving you an outsider's perspective, and aggregates just feel cheap to me. Again, they aren't used in most major sports, US sports or otherwise. Tennis, for example, 6-0, 6-0, 5-7, 5-7, 5-7 = 27-21 aggregate, but player B wins the match because he won more sets.

But again, I suppose it's fine for soccer because it promotes aggressiveness and offense, which soccer needs more of.

Actually I grew up in the US, I played pitcher and catcher at my Maryland public school and went to see the orioles a bunch of times. Also played soccer too but didn't go to a game/follow leagues till I was a teenager, there was no Internet/cable to watch games on. I always liked playing pick up football, but the NFL also was just too damn slow for me to really get into.

Fiba basketball uses aggregate scoring, and it works fine. Sometimes it's just not feasible to keep playing overtimes and additional games, and it can help salvage a blowout, I still don't see what the big problem is. Tactical fouls and flopping are problems, aggregate scoring works and it works well.

[DAF86]

I always find myself laughing at the obvious penis envy displayed in these threads. Futbol is the most popular sport in the World, deal with it. We don't give a if you understand it or not.

[Clipper Nation]

Soccer fans try sooooo hard to make Americans care about their pathetic excuse for a "sport." Then once they start getting BTFO by fans of real sports, they try to play it off like they aren't desperate for our approval. That's when the "most popular 'sport' in the (third) world" card starts being played. Meanwhile, most Americans are busy being entertained by real sports. We don't give a second thought to soccer unless foreigners and hipsters are trying to shove it down our throats.

Truth is, the USA is the only country that matters. No matter how hard they try to deny it, the fact that we don't care about their third-world lawn game makes soccer fans feel insecure.

[Silver&Black]

Nobody is saying that "comebacks" (specifically in single matches) never happen. Still doesn't change the fact that when a team trails by 2 or more goals that team is usually going to lose the match. I'm willing to bet the percentage is somewhere north of 95%. This is not the norm. This is the exception. For every match you post like this I'm sure I could post 100 videos of teams that didn't make the comeback.

By saying that "It happens all the time" or "it happens just as much as basketball" your side is not being honest here. You probably remember every single 3 or 4 goal comeback like this in your favorite teams history. That's because it's so damn rare. I couldn't even begin to count all the times I've watched a Spurs game where they came back from down 20+. It happened 2 games ago.

How does a sport where the average score is 1-0 have this unbelievable "comeback" factor. Newsflash: It doesn't.

[DAF86]

Nobody is saying that "comebacks" (specifically in single matches) never happen. Still doesn't change the fact that when a team trails by 2 or more goals that team is usually going to lose the match. I'm willing to bet the percentage is somewhere north of 95%. This is not the norm. This is the exception. For every match you post like this I'm sure I could post 100 videos of teams that didn't make the comeback.

By saying that "It happens all the time" or "it happens just as much as basketball" your side is not being honest here. You probably remember every single 3 or 4 goal comeback like this in your favorite teams history. That's because it's so damn rare. I couldn't even begin to count all the times I've watched a Spurs game where they came back from down 20+. It happened 2 games ago.

How does a sport where the average score is 1-0 have this unbelievable "comeback" factor. Newsflash: It doesn't.

If you think that teams coming back from 2 goals down in soccer is rarer than basketball teams coming back from 20pts down, you clearly haven't watched enough games of at least one of those sports, tbh.

[resistanze]

Nobody is saying that "comebacks" (specifically in single matches) never happen. Still doesn't change the fact that when a team trails by 2 or more goals that team is usually going to lose the match. I'm willing to bet the percentage is somewhere north of 95%. This is not the norm. This is the exception. For every match you post like this I'm sure I could post 100 videos of teams that didn't make the comeback.

By saying that "It happens all the time" or "it happens just as much as basketball" your side is not being honest here. You probably remember every single 3 or 4 goal comeback like this in your favorite teams history. That's because it's so damn rare. I couldn't even begin to count all the times I've watched a Spurs game where they came back from down 20+. It happened 2 games ago.

How does a sport where the average score is 1-0 have this unbelievable "comeback" factor. Newsflash: It doesn't.

All that is irrelevant to me. I watch all sports and I don't know who is the 'they' you're referring to. I don't have the attention span of a child that I grade the validity of sports by the frequency of comebacks, that's a ty argument. Most 28 point leads in the NBA are kept, so I don't know what the argument is. Comebacks happen in all sports, that's really one of the most basic elements of any compe ive sport - one side leading and another side (or opponent) coming back.

[Silver&Black]

Soccer fans lying to everybody ITT. Even they know when their team goes up by 2 goals the game is basically over. Don't let these guys fool you.

But, but but but I've got a video where a team came back from down 4-0. It happens all the time!!!!!

Liars.

[midnightpulp]

I always find myself laughing at the obvious penis envy displayed in these threads. Futbol is the most popular sport in the World, deal with it. We don't give a if you understand it or not.

Justin Bieber is bigger than Miles Davis. It really doesn't bother me.

"Penis Envy."

Soccer fans start way more troll threads about baseball than the other way around. I wouldn't even have given a about soccer vs. baseball until the floptrot crew started spouting bull . I don't care whether or not you find it boring. That's personal taste. My issue is when you think you don't have to be athletic to play baseball because it isn't a "stamina" sport. Easily disproven, as I have shown about 1000 times.

[midnightpulp]

If you think that teams coming back from 2 goals down in soccer is rarer than basketball teams coming back from 20pts down, you clearly haven't watched enough games of at least one of those sports, tbh.

A 20pt lead after the first quarter is safe 87% of the time (ergo, comebacks happen in this instance about 1 out of 8 times).

http://stats.inpredictable.com/nba/wpCalc.php

As you can see, a 3-2 score happens less than 5% of the time in soccer, and not all those 3-2 scores will have been comebacks:



Yeah, we don't have the percentages on 4-2, 4-3, and 5-4, 5-3, 5-2 scores, some which would have been comebacks, but judging by the descent of the graph, those scores probably happen less than 1% of the time. A fair estimate is that a comeback (to win) from a 2 goal deficit probably happens about 3%-5% of the time.

[midnightpulp]

All that is irrelevant to me. I watch all sports and I don't know who is the 'they' you're referring to. I don't have the attention span of a child that I grade the validity of sports by the frequency of comebacks, that's a ty argument. Most 28 point leads in the NBA are kept, so I don't know what the argument is. Comebacks happen in all sports, that's really one of the most basic elements of any compe ive sport - one side leading and another side (or opponent) coming back.

It's not about attention span necessarily, but about drama. Coming back from a single score deficit just isn't as exciting nor as dramatic as coming back from huge deficits. Comebacks do happen in all sports, but they aren't all created equal. I like witnessing complete and total meltdowns (i.e. Falcons, Rangers, 2004 ALCS, etc). And the probability of meltdowns happening is higher in nearly all sports, not just American sports, than it is in soccer.

"Well, since they happen in soccer more rarely, they're more meaningful."

Somewhat true, but I personally think they're too rare. And when they do happen, it's either through aggregate like this, during regular season club play, or something like coming back from only 2 goals down. What I want to see in soccer is Brazil coming back from the 6 goal deficit. After Germany went up 3-0 early, it was over. You don't completely lose hope like that for a team in other sports and thus keep watching.

Simply put, I think most other sports have the rarity/occurrence dynamic just right, from baseball to tennis. Personal opinion, obviously.

[pgardn]

College football first
NBA basketball then "soccer"

My fellow Americans:

Just try playing the sport you call boring. It's a blast. Just play with people who know how to play and try to learn. The games are not watched for the scores as much as for the style of play. You can have riveting, well played 0-0 game, and absolutely horrible 5-4 game. And if you can't see the similarities between soccer and basketball you are missing it. Team spacing, properly weighted passes, running through areas to draw the defense into awkward positions on and on. Team shape and team rhythm and speed make for interesting clashes in style. Soccer can be horrible or it can be fantastic just like NBA games. You guys really care if the score is 110-100 or 100-90? They could be horrible or great games, you have to watch. One thing I admire about soccer games called by The English is they tell you if it is crap or if its compelling. They don't try as hard to please the broadcast companies by overusing superlatives. Soccer is announced on a far superior level than practically any American sport I can think of.

That being said, Barcelona is probably the only team who could pull off this kind of comeback against quality compe ion. Maybe Bayern Munich. Nah... only Barcelona.

[resistanze]

Simply put, I think most other sports have the rarity/occurrence dynamic just right, from baseball to tennis. Personal opinion, obviously.

To each his own. But I think that depends in your scale. 3-0 leads are significant leads in soccer, simply put. Its probably the same as 4-0 in hockey, 25 point lead in basketball, 28 point lead in football, 7-0 in baseball... You get the picture.

I think any sport.... even tennis has comeback potential. But for me its only one element of the sport and not the most important, hence why I pretty much watch all the sports I listed.

[Spurtacular]

Would've been a fun one to have bet on, tbh.

[lefty]

lost to spme Spanish team today
no ref to bail them out like it was the case during that "comeback"

[DAF86]

^^ scared Madrid fan that thought Barca was already out of the picture.

[lefty]

^^ scared Madrid fan that thought Barca was already out of the picture.

Barca isnt winning anything

[DMC]

Soccer
s and euro s getting mad at americans calling it soccer
0-0
teams full of professional actors
"sport"
as physical as beisbol
best player is a midget
only choice for impoverished countries, hence popularity
knuckle draggers regularly fighting over games

required equipment: ball

[DAF86]

required equipment: ball

Same as basketball and the NFL.

[Canyonero]

b-b-but povertyball

[spurraider21]

Same as basketball and the NFL.

lol good like playing basketball with only a ball and nothing else

[DAF86]

lol good like playing basketball with only a ball and nothing else

Same as playing soccer with a ball and nothing else, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

Povertyball fans lying as usual. To make it in the NFL you don't need helmets and pads I guess.

It's okay to love your sport and defend it, but stop lying to everybody. First it started with povertball fans saying that all the players "run" around for 90 minutes straight. A ing lie. At any given time there are multiple players standing still. Then, it was 0-0 tie games aren't that common. More bull . Now, it's you don't need anything but a ball to play football and basketball. Even more lies.

All you need to play povertball is a ball. That's it. You can draw two lines in the dirt for a "net". Even baseball requires you to have a stick and a ball. ( Twice the equipment required)

[DAF86]

Povertyball fans lying as usual. To make it in the NFL you don't need helmets and pads I guess.

It's okay to love your sport and defend it, but stop lying to everybody. First it started with povertball fans saying that all the players "run" around for 90 minutes straight. A ing lie. At any given time there are multiple players standing still. Then, it was 0-0 tie games aren't that common. More bull . Now, it's you don't need anything but a ball to play football and basketball. Even more lies.

All you need to play povertball is a ball. That's it. You can draw two lines in the dirt for a "net". Even baseball requires you to have a stick and a ball. ( Twice the equipment required)

If you are going to pull the "helmets and pads" card, I can use the "boots and shin pads" card.

If you are going to pretend that "drawing lines" is the same as having goals, then I can pretend that a spot on a wall can work as a basketball goal. You know what "drawing lines" works perfectly fine as? As ing NFL endzones, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

^
Not reading any more lies from you when it comes to povertyball.