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    Same as playing soccer with a ball and nothing else, tbh.
    not even close. you can't play basketball without a proper basket. you can line up trash cans and play povertyball, as shooting on goal isn't really an important role for 3/4 of the players on the field

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    ^
    Not reading any more lies from you when it comes to povertyball.
    How very convenient for you, tbh.

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    not even close. you can't play basketball without a proper basket. you can line up trash cans and play povertyball, as shooting on goal isn't really an important role for 3/4 of the players on the field
    If you don't play with proper goals the only shots you can trully know for sure were on target are those that go at floor level. If any shot goes remotely high you have to be guesstimating wether the ball was too high, to the right, to the left or right on target.
    Last edited by DAF86; 03-12-2017 at 10:28 PM.

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    If you don't play with proper goals the only shots you can trully know for sure were on target are those that go at floor level. If any shot goes remotely high you have to be guesstimating wether the ball was too high, to the right, to the left or right on target.
    shots on goal is a small part of an average soccer game and largely irrelevant for 75% of the players

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    shots on goal is a small part of an average soccer game and largely irrelevant for 75% of the players
    That's not true, specially for pickup games which is what we are arguing here.

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    Would've been a fun one to have bet on, tbh.
    Some guy here in Germany bet 1€ on Barca winning 6-1, Bayern winning 5-1 and Real winning 3-1. Got nearly 100k€ out of it.

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    my DAF showing no mercy to trumpbol lovers ITT tbh


    keep doing the lords work

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    shots on goal is a small part of an average soccer game and largely irrelevant for 75% of the players
    75%? That's generous. It's more like 100%.

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    my DAF showing no mercy to trumpbol lovers ITT tbh


    keep doing the lords work
    The NFL is trumpbol now?

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    I also don't know why DAF is bothered by the fact that soccer is the easiest major sport to get a pick up game going that is relatively closer to the actual sport than other sports. Basketball is an easy second in this case, which is why it's also a popular sport in poorer areas, especially in urban and rural (basketball was once the favored sport for rural midwesteners) areas in the US. Football is restricted by its pads requirements (touch football is a poor imitator. Removing tackling from the game turns it into a completely different sport). And baseball is restricted by its space and equipment requirements. Even little kids can hit the ball over 100 feet in all directions, so an environment like this would be total for baseball.



    And yes, stickball has been played in locations like this for over a century in the US, but stickball is about as close to baseball as cricket or Pesapello.

    It's also easily proven which sport can be better emulated by just listing the requirements you need to play each sport properly:

    Soccer:

    - Two 8x24ft goals with nets.
    - Ball
    - 100x70yd space
    - Chalk to draw lines
    - Shin guards
    - Cleats
    - Gloves for goalie (arguably not essential)

    Basketball:

    - Indoor court (outdoor courts are fine as long as the wind doesn't blow, in which case the game becomes a show).
    - Ball
    - Two ten foot high goals
    - Paint for drawing boundaries, key, 3 point line, etc. Tape won't work and neither will chalk

    Baseball:

    - 100,000sqft area bordered by outfield fencing and drawn into a diamond shape that smoothly tapers from the outfield in.
    - Backstop that is about 30 feet wide and 50 feet high.
    - Bases that can be anchored into the field (bases that just sit on top of the field are too easily pushed around and are an injury risk).
    - Rubber anchored into the mound
    - Ball
    - Bats
    - Gloves
    - Helmets
    - Cleats
    - Specific catcher's gear
    - Chalk to draw lines

    Football:

    - I won't go into detail, but just the very fact that each player needs their own gear that consists of about 12 different individual pieces should make enough of a point.

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    You nikkas grew up privileged tbh. We regularly played basketball using the school bell on the wall as our basket at recess. Or against a sign on one of the short walls at my other school, so we constantly roofed the ball when we took a bad shot

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    lol soccer

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    Mid...you might have some explaining to do.

    Did you see the World Beisbol Classic tiebreaker? I don't know the full story, but I think Mexico got left out because of a runs scored per inning tiebreaker. Did I get that right?

    If true, what an awful way to determine who advances. As bad as povertyball.

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    Mid...you might have some explaining to do.

    Did you see the World Beisbol Classic tiebreaker? I don't know the full story, but I think Mexico got left out because of a runs scored per inning tiebreaker. Did I get that right?

    If true, what an awful way to determine who advances. As bad as povertyball.
    Yeah. Mexico got hosed. It's yet another example of the flawed aggregate systems that international sporting committees just seem to love. That said, determining tie breakers in pool play of any tournament will always be a bit of a cluster . Here's how it went down:



    In a perfect world, you'd just have Ita, Ven, and Mex play another round of games. In this case, a 3 way tie record wise is impossible. But scheduling conflicts abound, obviously, especially with the WBC taking place during Spring training. Runs scored isn't really a good tie-breaker because it unfairly punishes teams for not going into extra innings. Same with run differential (due to the walkoff run factor. A home team couldn't pad runs in the bottom of the 9th, for example).

    I think the best way to do it in this case is which team performed the best against the pool champ. Venezuela lost 11-0 to Puerto Rico while Mexico lost 9-4.

    That said, the WBC is basically an exhibition tournament that only the Dominicans and Japanese take super-seriously. You won't see this re ation in the MLB anytime soon. And the WBC doesn't have stupid like 2 game series, thankfully

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    "World baseball classic"
    literally nobody gives a

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    "World baseball classic"
    literally nobody gives a
    No one gives a about the FIBA "World" Championship either. Or the even the Olympics Gold Medal game.

    In baseball and basketball, only the MLB and NBA really matter.

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    No one gives a about the FIBA "World" Championship either. Or the even the Olympics Gold Medal game.

    In baseball and basketball, only the MLB and NBA really matter.
    Everybody outside the US gives a about the basketball World Cup son, don't be ignorant.

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    "World baseball classic"
    literally nobody gives a

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    Everybody outside the US gives a about the basketball World Cup son, don't be ignorant.
    This, tbh

    murikans gonna murikan

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    Everybody outside the US gives a about the basketball World Cup son, don't be ignorant.
    Like who?

    You really think the likes of England, Germany, Scandinavia, Russia, India, Japan, Australia, and South America aside from Argentina are huddled around the village TV set watching it?

    The basketball world cup probably only draws in Spain, France, and the very small basketball countries in Eastern Europe.

    Anyhow:

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/426440...wan-and-japan/

    Those share numbers probably translate to about 30 million people, and that wasn't even a final.

    Show me the last FIBA Final to draw 30 million.
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    Like who?

    You really think the likes of England, Germany, Scandinavia, Russia, India, Japan, Australia, and South America aside from Argentina are huddled around the village TV set watching it?

    The basketball world cup probably only draws in Spain, France, and the very small basketball countries in Eastern Europe.

    Anyhow:

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/426440...wan-and-japan/

    Those share numbers probably translate to about 30 million people, and that wasn't even a final.

    Show me the last FIBA Final to draw 30 million.
    Every country involved, outside the US, gives a about the Basketball WC, unless they are really, really ty. Of course not soccer WC s given, but pretty solid s given nonetheless, tbh.

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    Every country involved, outside the US, gives a about the Basketball WC, unless they are really, really ty. Of course not soccer WC s given, but pretty solid s given nonetheless, tbh.
    Where's your data backing that up?

    Countries like the UK and Finland giving a about basketball

    You're really reaching.

    I can't find ratings for the FIBA World Cup, but here's the television ratings from the Eurobasket Final between the two most relevant European basketball countries:

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_aAixU...leMode_on.html

    About 9 million viewers between the two countries. Let's assume viewership doubles for FIBA World Cup. Still only 18 million.

    "I bet the rest of Europe is probably tuned in."

    I bet not.

    Basketball is so relevant in Germany, they didn't even show an opening round game on TV in which Germany played. And it was against a historic sporting rival in France

    http://www.sportcal.com/News/Feature...674?sportID=58

    Meanwhile the other night in Japan:

    The extra-inning thriller won by Japan in 11 innings saw an average TV viewership in Japan of 25.2%, peaking at 32.6% Sunday night, while official attendance for the contest at the Tokyo Dome was 44,326.
    Nearly 1/3rd of the population (40 million people) tuned into a a 2nd round game.

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    watching beisbol and soccer s duke it out in the special olympics debate

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    watching beisbol and soccer s duke it out in the special olympics debate
    Don't get me wrong, I like football the sport, but you have to be a to follow (and defend) Goodell's abomination that is "NFL FOOOOOBAAWWW."

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