This "oh triple doubles!" narrative as the clincher has been a pathetic dominant theme in the MVP RACE..
Yep. He and Lebron both did, although neither could have imagined how good he would become. I think LeBron is little salty over it to be honest
Such a narrative, recency-bias driven award..Kawhi certainly garnered a lot of votes last night..
PS..D Wade is real and always been Kawhi fan..remember him giving props to Leonard in his post-2013 Finals press conference..
was looking at the front page of ESPN just now, Westbrook's 58 can't bail out OKC. It appears the Russ' stats being like empty calories narrative seems to be growing. Ah 58 points that's nice but it didn't get him a win. Win totals is starting to become something people are paying more attention to.
The award isn't HSP - Highest Scoring Player. It isn't BSP - Best Stats Player.
The award is Most Valuable Player. To me, the guy who wins games is pretty damn valuable. Maybe ESPN thinks it's who can get the most valuable marketing deal?
even the re s on realgm are taking notice
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...8385******=740
Wow!!!
I'll post this again because it's such a good read. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timei...3Fsource%3Ddam
I dig. Long way to go though. Really need to steal that 1-seed.
What's the deal with his defensive on/off numbers though?
My guess is all that rest against ty teams and in garbage time. Plus Anderson (his natural replacement) being pretty damn good on defense, specially against fellow scrubs, tbh.
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He could be back on Monday vs the Hawks, per Pop..
Kawhi narrative will get a major boost if he balls out and lead us to the Top seed with LMA now missing few weeks...
Are you gonna call him Kwobe if he shoots worse and we don't get the top seed.
That's big news. Glad to hear this injury wasn't all that serious.
Kawhi is third in this WP poll..
A plausible scenario.
Hopefully Harden wins and Kawhi destroys the Rockets in the conference finals.
Kawhi is not going to win despite having the better season team wise and individually. This has been on pf the best season Two Way performances I have ever seen..Rivaling Lebron MVP years.
No matter, if the spurs reach the confrence finals this year and he shows ip..the narrative will tilt to his favour with unsually high "apology" votes for next year.
MVP is all about narratives.
It only hurts because it would be nice to see Leonard Win Multiple MVPs and a championship to catapult himself to Top 10 all time status.
I think the last few games have dented Kawhi's chances of winning either the MVP or the DPOY. It shouldn't be that way, but it probably is.
But as much as I think he is under-rated, that play in the last seconds against the T-Wolves? Remember? The Spurs inbounded the ball, and he just curled up and let the trap cover him up? I don't know if he assume they would foul him, and Pop got a timeout called just in time. But that came within a half second of being a jump ball, and giving the 'Wolves their only chance of getting back into that game.
I was talking to a friend tonight whose opinion I respect, and he said that (his opinion) Westbrook/Harden/LeBron wouldn't have let that happen in that situation. At the very least, those guys would have forced Minnesota to foul them. And in honesty, I couldn't disagree. For all of Kawhi's strengths, and there are a lot of those, he's still got some limitations in that kind of situation. That, more than anything, is probably going to keep him out of the final consideration for MVP this year.
He's worked hard and improved every offseason. If he does it again this year, he's a strong contender next year. I don't think his is this year, unless he does something crazy in the next few weeks, and the others fall off.
each bad 3 point shot he currently takes costs him a vote ... its ugly
To add to what Apalisoc said ... and some by GSH... it's the first season Kawhi is this explosive of a scorer on a consistent basis and the team is undoubtedly his. It was last season too, but Lamarcus was getting integrated and Timmy was still in the team. This season Kawhi is the leader and there's no doubt. He's also so good offensively that there's no doubt he's not only the best Spur, but that he should be in the MVP short list. Should he shine in the playoffs with a Spur deep run, plus he continue on this path or better next year he would undoubtedly climb that wall to MVP ... I think he could have been it this season but there's something to be said about narratives and Spurs didn't have one going for him though him being the Spurs epicenter now that TD retired and the only all star of a team this good should count for something.
after the houston game he got national attention and was in the spotlight, he needed to capitalize on the attention and didn't. got hurt unfortunately against okc and hasn't had the explosive games he's needed to continue the hype. hardens gonna win
That's a good point.
Harden will win the MVP..If the Rockets go 2-0 in their next two home games vs OKC/GSW, it's probably a wrap...
A little mailbag fun with Bull tons:
https://theringer.com/the-no-sleep-t...889#.3by52sx6g
Q: Tom Haberstroh (who I like) , “This @kpelton piece tackles Kawhi’s MVP’s credentials, including the overrated concept of “BEST TWO-WAY PLAYER.” It’s now overrated to be the league’s best two-way player? When did we decide this?
— Jack Lewis
BS: It’s not overrated if the league’s best two-way player doubles as (a) one of the NBA’s six or seven best offensive players by any metric; (b) one of the NBA’s three best defensive players; (c) the only All-Star on a top-4 contender cruising for 62-plus wins; (d) the only active star who can say, “I outplayed LeBron head-to-head in the NBA Finals when I wasn’t even in my prime yet”; (e) the only current NBA star who can successfully defend Westbrook, Harden, LeBron, Durant, and Davis; (f) one of the two best perimeter defenders I’ve ever seen in my freaking life; and (g) our only NBA star who can say, “There’s 40 seconds left in Game 7 and it’s tied — I’m gonna score on LeBron, and then I’m gonna stop him from scoring” (and actually believe it).
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