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I think it's fine for an 8th or 9th man. For those expecting Anderson to be a low-level starter or first non-guard off the bench it's not as good.
First of all, because a lot (most?) of the "solid" guys you're talking about are still more athletic than KA. They boy really is slow, Chinook. , Richard Jefferson is almost 37, and the Spurs ran him out of town, and he is more athletic than Kyle. That really limits the options for an NBA player.
And second, because a lot of those guys are at least really tough. Kyle, for the most part, still looks and plays like a kid. You said above that you think they should put him at the 4 and leave him there. You know that a 4 in the NBA needs to be physical, to be a success. ESPECIALLY if he's not athletic.
I think it's fine for an 8th or 9th man. For those expecting Anderson to be a low-level starter or first non-guard off the bench it's not as good.
I agree. I understand what the word "solid" means...but it in the coaching world it has somewhat of a different meaning..
It really just means you aren't good enough and like you said it's used to evaluate the lower end type of player..
If only your boy Simmons was solid TBH. He's been the worst rotation player for a couple of months or more and frankly I don't wish him ill nor even getting benched, but the amount of that Kyle gets from the SIMM hype fan is ridiculous. Lol
I distinctly remember that interview. Pop said one of Simmons focus for the seasons was work in being solid: not making mistakes that don't need to be made, etc. It was so important that Simmons himself also mentioned it. I do think Pop values that highly.
First of all this has nothing to do with Simmons..and he's not my boy. I don't pick specific players to root for and I only want what's best for the team. I've only defended Simmons because some were so adamant on saying he wasn't an NBA player..but as we can see they were wrong. Not sure if you were one of them tho..
Bottom line is there's a reason why Simmons jumped Kyle in the eyes of Pop...and that's even with the glaring hole for a back up forward. Simmons has his flaws in his game but he tends to make an impact on the game with his ELITE athleticism. I'm not trying talk about Anderson I'm just calling like I see it..he's good or "solid" across the board but isn't ELITE in any area of his game and obviously it isn't good enough for Pop. We're just seeing why he fell to the end of the draft..EVERYTHING on his weakness scouting report has come to fruition tbh
Don't take offense...
Rookies by WS since Leonard:
3.4 Boban Marjanovic
2.0 Jonathan Simmons
1.9 and counting Davis Bertans
1.3 Nando De Colo
0.3 Kyle Anderson
0.2 Nicolas Laprovittola
0.1 Aron Baynes
0.0 all others
I agree with this list tbh...
WS is a very good stat.
Ok fair enough... you immediately assumed solid had a negative connotation and considering that Pop had previously said that's something he looks for in his players... specially young players that still don't have a place in the league... I don't see it as a negative. Your other comments may have a point
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Anderson in the month of March: 17 minutes, 6 PPG 55% FG, 40% from 3 on 1.3 att per game, 3.8 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 6.3 +/-
If you go back to February and add March: that's still 46% from the field and 40%from 3. He played less in February but that still supports my statement that he's been playing and shooting well for a while.
Tim Duncan used to use to word "solid" quite a bit throughout the years. After a lot of wins, he's say we played a solid game, or that he had a solid game, or that the defense was solid. To me, when Tim used to say the word, it meant when good/great games became routine or something good that is done consistently, it was a solid game/performance. I guess it depends on who's saying it and who/what they're referring to, but anytime Tim said it, to me, it meant when good/great games become routine, it was a solid performance.
Last edited by Ice009; 03-14-2017 at 05:43 AM.
I really doubt Pop looked at Kyle's 13/8/6 and thought, "That's decent, but not good enough". To put it into perspective, Draymond averages 10/8/7. If Anderson did that every game, he'd be a top 5-7 guy on the team easily.
Simmons is blocking him from taking minutes at the backup 3, Anderson was the backup 3 the season before.
Anderson and Simmons sort of have the same issue, I view Anderson as more consistent, at least of late (he seems to have turned a corner since that @ Cleveland game).
Anderson's only real issue is his lack of shooting; a decent corner 3pt shooter is his only real barrier to being a good rotation player. He can defend, especially off ball, rebound, and his an above average passer he can do things off the dribble but that is more of a bonus so long as he can get that part of his game up to average.
If Simmons walks and Anderson becomes the backup 3, I don't think the Spurs are any worse for it. The bench may not have both Mills and Manu, but that almost guarantees a step back from the bench unit ,anyway.
It's been quiet in here since that D-League showcase on Saturday tbh expected
Let me remove some spiderwebs
That's not him at the 4 though. With lma back he's back in the akward positionless position
He's been used as a PG, sucks
been used as a SG, sucks
been used as a SF, no one is worse in the league
been used as a PF, sucks
He's a deer in headlights on the big stage. Decent little summer league player though
I mean if the only position he can play is the 4 where he does his best, it probably won't work out for him here. There were comparisons to Diaw when he first got here, but I'm not really seeing the comparisons. Bobo was very flexible and you could plug him anywhere and he'd do well. That's the type of player KA needs to be. If he was more assertive with his decision making, could shoot the ball, and was quicker on both ends of the floor, it would be much easier to play him more.
Diaw was almost exclusively a 4. He fit well with Duncan, Splitter, and Aldridge but it was because those guys would play the 5. The Diaw and West pairing last year failed pretty hard in the playoffs.
Anderson is a bit more flexible; I'd trust him to defend some backup 3s more than I would trust Diaw to do so. Anderson would be playing a lot more backup 4 if Lee hadn't signed here or wasn't playing great like he is now.
I always thought that was a forced comparison. Diaw and Anderson. Even though Diaw wasn't fast, he was quick on the blocks and seemed to be able to get to the rim. He was also much stronger than Anderson and could back people down. His 3 point shot was better and he was a better passer. Maybe Anderson hasn't peaked yet but I don't think he'll ever be to a level that's comparable to Diaw.
I see KA as Diaw-lite right now. I think the biggest difference is size and shooting ability. Diaw is built like who he is, a PF. KA is built like a SF but with the talent of either a PG or PF so its harder to find where he belongs. Also youre comparing Diaws entire career to KAs first few years. Personally I find KA as good a passer as Diaw, and maybe a better rebounder.
I agree. I am comparing an experienced Diaw to Anderson. But even in Diaw's early years, I think you could tell there was something there. Something more than what KA brings at this point in time. KA is a good passer. But Diaw was so good at passing in the paint and getting the Spurs easy buckets. Like you said, Anderson doesn't have the same body type so he's rarely in the same position that Diaw was.
Anyway, my main point was that they really aren't similar players. Maybe Anderson finds his way but after this many years, I just don't think he's going to become near the impact player than Diaw was.
I mean Diaw defended a guy like LeBron, so there was some flexibility there too. Even tho he was a "4" on the court, there was some flexibility in terms of who he defended. He didn't have the hands or length that KA does, but he had more foot speed (surprisingly) to cover guys on the perimeter.
I just don't know how KA does as a full time backup 4, especially with his frame. You're looking at maybe Pau/KA as a backup Frontline. It'd be pretty weak and slow footed honestly. He needs to bulk up a bit and work on his catch and shooting ability, and some how learn to be faster.. his recovery time when he's beat on the perimeter and thru screens is his biggest weakness defensively. At least imho
Maybe a forced comparison. Diaw wasn't fast, but he moved quicker than KA does with the ball and his decision making. (Alludes to what you said about quick getting to the block and to the rim)
It's definitely not a good comparison anymore, but I still hear it now at times from some commentators. Probably reading older articles... There are things he should take from Bobo's game if he wants to get playing time here tho. He'll have another opportunity for PT next season, but he has to improve in several areas
Anderson is a face-up player, not a back-to-the-basket player. So he's nothing like Diaw. He's much closer to Randle or Okafor in terms of how he'd score one-on-one. Anderson shouldn't get much bigger. The priority will be being able to defend fours, not being able to defend post-up fives who are playing the four for some reason.
Diaw guarded Lebron like a big would, not like a wing. Boris has been a PF or center since before he became a Spur; he was never really a combo-forward with the team.
We've talked about what Kyle needs to improve upon ad naseum already. He simply needs to be more consistent looking for and making shots. He can already play the four against pretty much any team in the league physically. But unless he's scoring at a high rate, it won't matter. Simply put, teams don't really care about having a scoring PF off the bench for the most part, so Kyle being a very strong defender is wasted most of the time. He needs to score enough to be a threat to where his D is a bonus, not his calling card.
Best game of his career tonight
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