March Madness & Potential future Spurs

[GSH]

I'd prefer dedman at 5.

We're going to have Pau for another year, I'm sure. I'd love to see Dedmon AND Lee stick around. Put another year under Dedmon, and he might be the best starter. Pau has been pretty damn good off the bench. Lee is a badass, as long as he isn't up against a taller C who is also a badass. There are a lot worse problems than having to decide between those three.

[dabom]

We're going to have Pau for another year, I'm sure. I'd love to see Dedmon AND Lee stick around. Put another year under Dedmon, and he might be the best starter. Pau has been pretty damn good off the bench. Lee is a badass, as long as he isn't up against a taller C who is also a badass. There are a lot worse problems than having to decide between those three.

Dedman is a physical specimen at the 5 position. He has the perfect tools for that spot.

[GSH]

Dedman is a physical specimen at the 5 position. He has the perfect tools for that spot.

And the at ude, too. He's not afraid of contact. , he's not afraid of anything. I don't disagree.

He hasn't been great as a starter yet. But this is his first year to really get serious NBA minutes, and bigs take some seasoning. He needs to get better at setting picks, and he's got to come up with a little more to offer on the offensive end. But I don't see any reason to go out looking for someone else, unless he gets too big of an offer somewhere else, and leaves. I'm liking the out of Pau from the bench right now, so I'd be happy to see the Spurs stand pat there, and for Dedmon to step up and really own the starter's spot.

So, fine, throw Dedmon in that photo lineup that TGY just posted. That SL makes me think Marsellus Wallace:

What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' ******s, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass.

[dabom]

And the at ude, too. He's not afraid of contact. , he's not afraid of anything. I don't disagree.

He hasn't been great as a starter yet. But this is his first year to really get serious NBA minutes, and bigs take some seasoning. He needs to get better at setting picks, and he's got to come up with a little more to offer on the offensive end. But I don't see any reason to go out looking for someone else, unless he gets too big of an offer somewhere else, and leaves. I'm liking the out of Pau from the bench right now, so I'd be happy to see the Spurs stand pat there, and for Dedmon to step up and really own the starter's spot.

So, fine, throw Dedmon in that photo lineup that TGY just posted. That SL makes me think Marsellus Wallace:

What now? Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' ******s, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'ma get medieval on your ass.

We are one of the biggest teams in the NBA. I like to keep it that way.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs don't have the contracts to move up in the draft, not significantly anyway. Perhaps Bertans moves them up a few places but unlikely all the way to the mid-late teens in such a deep draft.

[TheGreatYacht]

Nuggets traded Nurkic and their Grizzlies first round pick (21st right now) for Mason Plumlee on an expiring contract.
Wizards traded their first round pick (24th right now) for Bojan Bogdanovic.

I'd like to see RC get on the phone with that dumpster fire Bulls front office. Con them into trading us their 13th pick for Green + 29th pick. I mean, they did give up McDermott and Gibson for one of the worst players in the league in Cameron Payne

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'd like to see RC get on the phone with that dumpster fire Bulls front office. Con them into trading us their 13th pick for Green + 29th pick. I mean, they did give up McDermott and Gibson for one of the worst players in the league in Cameron Payne

No way. Danny Green is a good win-now player on a decent contract who doesn't have nearly as much value to a rebuilding team. What would Chicago do with him? Bring him off the bench behind Butler instead of drafting a young player to develop in a deep draft? No way whatsoever.

[TheGreatYacht]

No way. Danny Green is a good win-now player on a decent contract who doesn't have nearly as much value to a rebuilding team. What would Chicago do with him? Bring him off the bench behind Butler instead of drafting a young player to develop in a deep draft? No way whatsoever.

No team with le aspirations would start post-2014 Green, be serious. His defense isn't good enough anymore to make up for his godawful offense. Also, he wouldn't come off the bench for Chicago because he would start next to Butler. Wade will most likely opt out.

Throw Kyle or Bertans if that's what it takes.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Oh, didn't realize that was a our-trash-for-their-gold kinda post.

[TheGreatYacht]

Shouldn't have wasted time replying to some bulgarian got that doesn't even watch the games. Lol "Green is a win-now player" RD2191

[Thomas82]

He was such a prospect before he got hurt, I still think someone will roll the dice trying to get a shot at a dominant big man. I've been wrong before, and we always see crazy stuff in the draft that we never expected. I think he's going to be one of those. Like I said, I wouldn't give up extra resources to trade up for him. And if there was some overlooked wing still on the board, I might still pass.

At the very least, the Spurs would have him on light duty the first year, to try and get him fully healed and not risk another injury. We've had our share of those kinds of players. At least I've had my fill of them.

It wouldn't surprise me if somebody took a chance on him early. After all, the Bucks did take Thon Maker at #10 last year when he was projected to go much lower.

[GSH]

Nuggets traded Nurkic and their Grizzlies first round pick (21st right now) for Mason Plumlee on an expiring contract.
Wizards traded their first round pick (24th right now) for Bojan Bogdanovic.

I'd like to see RC get on the phone with that dumpster fire Bulls front office. Con them into trading us their 13th pick for Green + 29th pick. I mean, they did give up McDermott and Gibson for one of the worst players in the league in Cameron Payne

Oh, didn't realize that was a our-trash-for-their-gold kinda post.

What TGY was talking about is some of the irrational, ty trades that other teams have already made this year. Nurkic is averaging right at a double-double since Denver shipped him to Portland. (14.4/9.6) And his 2.1 BLK per game is just a bonus. The team had already exercised his 4th year team option, so Portland has him for one more year on the cheap. Portland got him AND a 1st round pick in exchange for... Mason Plumlee on an expiring contract? Trades like that can make you start to believe that anything could happen.

I've said it before - I was a Danny Green fan from the first pre-season game he played here. But I really thought he was going to develop the ability to score off the dribble. That dream is long gone. Danny is almost a year younger than Bruce Bowen was when he first came to the Spurs. Both 3-and-D guys. But it sure doesn't look like Danny is going to age well, like Bowen did. If the Spurs traded Danny, they would have to have a plan for a starting 2 (obviously), but I sure as don't see him as off-limits for a trade anymore. The fact that he has a friendly contract by today's standards should give him a little more value in a trade for a pick. Not saying the deal TGY posted would work, but I understand what he's saying.

[spursistan]

Nuggets traded Nurkic and their Grizzlies first round pick (21st right now) for Mason Plumlee on an expiring contract.
Wizards traded their first round pick (24th right now) for Bojan Bogdanovic.

I'd like to see RC get on the phone with that dumpster fire Bulls front office. Con them into trading us their 13th pick for Green + 29th pick. I mean, they did give up McDermott and Gibson for one of the worst players in the league in Cameron Payne

When was the last time RC won a trade?

[GSH]

It wouldn't surprise me if somebody took a chance on him early. After all, the Bucks did take Thon Maker at #10 last year when he was projected to go much lower.

Thon Maker is a really good example of a team reaching to try and get a big man in the draft. He's 7'1", and weighs about the same as Danny Green. Never played college ball. And got drafted #10.

Giles was seriously talked about as the best prospect of the last decade. I just think someone will take a shot on him pretty high in the draft. And even if his knees get all the way healthy, I don't think he'll ever be as good as that. I guess we'll see.

[GSH]

When was the last time RC won a trade?

So long none of us remember. Well, I mean, unless you want to count that George Hill for Kawhi Leonard AND Davis Bertans thing.

[spursistan]

So long none of us remember. Well, I mean, unless you want to count that George Hill for Kawhi Leonard AND Davis Bertans thing.

That's the point..The Spurs haven't hit on anything in the draft, trade market or league margins in the last 3/4 years..

You just can't keep contending forever without a lucky break or two in roster construction now that the Big 3--one member after the other-- have been completely phased out of it even if the salary book says otherwise..

None of their Top 4-5 players is playing on the cheap (maybe Kawhi relatively so); the ones who are contributing as such will be FAs in the summer (Mills/Lee/Dedmon/Simmons)..

[GSH]

That's the point..The Spurs haven't hit on anything in the draft, trade market or league margins in the last 3/4 years..

You just can't keep contending forever without a lucky break or two in roster construction now that the Big 3--one member after the other-- have been completely phased out of it even if the salary book says otherwise..

None of their Top 4-5 players is playing on the cheap (maybe Kawhi relatively so); the ones who are contributing as such will be FAs in the summer (Mills/Lee/Dedmon/Simmons)..

Oh, man... seriously?

Do you know how ed the Spurs looked with Tim retiring? They landed Pau, Dedmon, and Lee this offseason, and drafted a damn good looking player with the 29 pick.

I know that LMA hasn't lived up to what a lot of people hoped, but they got Atlanta to take an injury-prone Tiago so that they could afford to sign him - AND they convinced him to sign here. (LMA hasn't played well recently, but in general people have been way too negative about him.)

I could keep going. But the Spurs FO has such a reputation for making good trades that other GM's are wary of trading, because they don't want to look like idiots. I know people want an All Star roster, top to bottom every year. But this team has had 50+ wins every season for 18 years. It would be 20, if the '99 season hadn't been strike-shortened. The Spurs have kept a VERY compe ive team for two decades, while getting less help from the draft by far. I'm open to different opinions, but that one is pretty tough to debate.

[spursistan]

Oh, man... seriously?

Do you know how ed the Spurs looked with Tim retiring? They landed Pau, Dedmon, and Lee this offseason, and drafted a damn good looking player with the 29 pick.

I know that LMA hasn't lived up to what a lot of people hoped, but they got Atlanta to take an injury-prone Tiago so that they could afford to sign him - AND they convinced him to sign here. (LMA hasn't played well recently, but in general people have been way too negative about him.)

I could keep going. But the Spurs FO has such a reputation for making good trades that other GM's are wary of trading, because they don't want to look like idiots. I know people want an All Star roster, top to bottom every year. But this team has had 50+ wins every season for 18 years. It would be 20, if the '99 season hadn't been strike-shortened. The Spurs have kept a VERY compe ive team for two decades, while getting less help from the draft by far. I'm open to different opinions, but that one is pretty tough to debate.

Spurs FO is held to higher standard..Compe ive is different from legit le contender..2009-2011 teams were very compe ive too, but they were also second round fodder..

Long story short, they need another home run in the 15th pick- -Kawhi mold..Signing a 30 yo second rate star like Aldridge isn't really a coup (the dude was torn between us and in Phoenix just in case you forgot)..

They need get bold with their choices going forward (summer 2018 decisions on Parker and LMA will be telling)...

Meanwhile, it's fine, we get to enjoy another 60-win team with gaudy metrics that may or may not reach the conference Finals..There are worse fates for 25+ teams in the league..

[Seventyniner]

Oh, man... seriously?

Do you know how ed the Spurs looked with Tim retiring? They landed Pau, Dedmon, and Lee this offseason, and drafted a damn good looking player with the 29 pick.

I know that LMA hasn't lived up to what a lot of people hoped, but they got Atlanta to take an injury-prone Tiago so that they could afford to sign him - AND they convinced him to sign here. (LMA hasn't played well recently, but in general people have been way too negative about him.)

I could keep going. But the Spurs FO has such a reputation for making good trades that other GM's are wary of trading, because they don't want to look like idiots. I know people want an All Star roster, top to bottom every year. But this team has had 50+ wins every season for 18 years. It would be 20, if the '99 season hadn't been strike-shortened. The Spurs have kept a VERY compe ive team for two decades, while getting less help from the draft by far. I'm open to different opinions, but that one is pretty tough to debate.

The FO doesn't hit a whole bunch of home runs (hard to do when you consistently draft so low) but puts the ball in play a ton and rarely strikes out.

[Thomas82]

Thon Maker is a really good example of a team reaching to try and get a big man in the draft. He's 7'1", and weighs about the same as Danny Green. Never played college ball. And got drafted #10.

Giles was seriously talked about as the best prospect of the last decade. I just think someone will take a shot on him pretty high in the draft. And even if his knees get all the way healthy, I don't think he'll ever be as good as that. I guess we'll see.

I guess we'll just have to wait until June 22 to see how it plays out.

[8FOR!3]

The FO doesn't hit a whole bunch of home runs (hard to do when you consistently draft so low) but puts the ball in play a ton and rarely strikes out.

Exactly, people love to . We didn't have a top 20 pick in the Duncan era (outside of James Anderson going at #20.) That's unheard of. When we found the right guy for the right value (I think we looked at Kawhi as having potential super-Bowen upside so that was smart to replace George Hill with) we hit a grand slam. Jean-Charles is the only recent 1st round pick I'm looking at thinking he's a big miss but even he was taken at 28. Wonder if Milutinov ever plays on the Spurs.