Yet the MLB championship is called the "World Series". They should add "doesn't care" between those two words to be accurate
When any other country fields a club that is capable of beating the MLB champions in a seven-game series, then they can whine about the name of the World Series.Yet the MLB championship is called the "World Series". They should add "doesn't care" between those two words to be accurate
What's truly re ed is naming the most important tournament in your "sport" the "World Cup" when the only relevant country on the planet doesn't give a rat's ass about it.
They're all " ty lower leagues"
arguing over soccer vs fatball is like a down syndrome kid fighting with an autistic kid over who is less re ed
Konyarguing over soccer vs fatball is like a down syndrome kid fighting with an autistic kid over who is less re ed
That is the reason why the povertyball vs. beisbol feud has staying power. They're equals. When comparing equal sports like these...usually one of these two criteria applies:
1. Both sports are ing awesome. Just endless entertainment around.
2. Both are lame as .
I'll let you choose which one applies to this argument. (Hint: It's not #1)
False dilemma. Baseball is ing awesome. Soccer isn't even a sport.
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Can't accept the fact that the ONLY people who find baseball "awesome" are himself, mid, and 60+ year old.
The billion-dollar local TV deals that MLB teams are signing these days says otherwise. That's not even getting into the league's lucrative national and international TV deals.
There's a reason why the MLB is literally more valuable than any soccer league in the world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ues_by_revenue
Money talks.
And 40 million Japanese who watched Japan in the Classic, and the 40 million Americans who tuned in for game 7.
I like foobaw when it's not interrupted by 80 minutes of commercials and yet another penalty, but baseball is a far better designed sport. I can go into detail if you like.
This is the 2nd time I've told you this. Redzone bruh. Nobody I know watches the local TV broadcast (CBS, FOX). They all watch redzone. No commercials. It's the greatest thing ever. Ever. And watch a Patriots game. They never get called for penalties. I just solved all your problems. You're welcome. You have no excuse now.
On Spurtalk (A NBA Forum):
MLB sub-forum = Ghost town.
NFL sub-forum = 15+ page thread every single weekend. Threads about what teams will do in Free Agency. Threads about the Draft....etc.
Guess all those posters don't agree with your "far better designed sport" theory. It's not about my opinion or your opinon Mid. After all....we're just two people. The entire site (as a whole) would tend to agree with me that foobaw > beisbol. The simplest explanation (usually the best ones) is the fact that nobody goes to the MLB forum and plenty of people go to the NFL forum.
Convince me I'm wrong about that.
Golf signs TV contracts (NBC) worth a load of money.
NASCAR signs TV contracts (FOX/TNT) worth a load of money.
ESPN/ESPN2 is showing Women's College Basketball in prime time.
Doesn't mean those sports are not lame as .
NFL>MLB>NBA in terms league net worth.
Why is the WBC final on my ESPN2 feed in Mexican?
Damn even Trump isn't watching
We're a basketball forum for a Texas (not really a baseball state) team that is half filled with foreigners from non-baseball playing countries.
I've responded to you about Redzone. I don't care about watching the Saints drive against the Bucs. I'd probably rather watch commercials than some ty NFC South highlight.
I also find it ironic you're invoking the "popularity" argument, which is what soccer fans use to "prove" their favorite sport is the "best." Furthermore, baseball is a much bigger sport worldwide than football, which is taken seriously by only one country. You might want to think that one through.
Now for the game design argument. (Note: I am not talking about aesthetic preferences. You find baseball boring because it's a static game. Fair enough. I would never try to convince you otherwise).
- Officiating influence.
Even though umpires aren't perfect, they have far less influence on the outcome of a game than do NFL officials, because they have a clear objective foundation of what is and what isn't a strike (strikezone) or out (does the ball beat the runner to the base). The NFL is affected by far, far too many subjective "judgement" calls. I mean, watch any replay, and you'll see holding on nearly every play, but it's like they arbitrarily choose when to call it. Same with every other contact play in the game, and given the fact that football is 100% contact on every play, this makes the game a cluster to call correctly and fairly. I also can't stand what I call "awarded penalties." These are the pass interference kind of penalties that just automatically award yardage as if the ball was caught, even when it's obvious the receiver had low odds of making the catch. Soccer is the worst offender in this regard with how it basically gives a team a free goal for a penalty in the box.
Basketball has a lot flaws here, as well, but at least scoring isn't at such a premium like it is in football and soccer, so bad officiating is a bit more transparent and a team can play through bad calls (for most of the game. Obviously a bad call late in the 4th quarter has more impact).
- Clock
Now baseball and other such sports like tennis, volleyball, etc have this advantage over clock based goal sports. In baseball, each team gets 27 outs, and you can't employ any kind of cheap "clock killing" tactics like you can in most goal sports. Again, I think basketball handles this best by having a 24 second shot clock compared to the 40 second playclock in football. Soccer is terrible in this regard (I've literally watched a soccer team play keep away for like 3 minutes).
- Possession doesn't change hands after a score
Combined with no clock, this means a comeback is always mathematically possible. It also creates a feeling of every inning feeling like the "4th quarter" because a team could erupt for a huge inning at any given time. The other non-clock sports have this in some regard. As long as a tennis player keeps his man from winning by two, he can comeback. No clock to burn for his opponent. And yes, I do think tennis is an elegantly designed game even though I'm not a fan.
Goalsports are pretty flawed, though I think basketball is the best of the best simply because its scoring design (i.e. it's easy to score) can overcome a lot of the subjective officiating that can potentially influence a game (however, I do think basketball is massively ty in this regard on final play situations).
Now aesthetically/dramatically speaking (my subjective opinion, of course)?
When baseball and football are "right," there's no more dramatic or epic of a sport in existence. Both have the comeback factor right. The punch/counterpunch factor right. And the "scope" right. A 9th inning rally punctuated by a homerun or a 90 yard drive is simply more "grand" of a spectacle than a 4th quarter comeback in basketball. But football has lost me over the past 5 years because of Goodellball and all the in' commercials (again, I don't give a about Redzone. Cutting away to anything, whether it be a commercial or another game, ruins the pacing of the game you're watching).
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Stroman tonight
Let's see him show up this season after an down year. He seemed to be asspained about his buddy Sanchez getting more shine last season.Stroman tonight
The game was actually boring bc PR barely got a couple if hits ... but the field was almost full to capacity and they got a lot of revenue. I am not a baseball fan and maybe ESPN deportes is hyping up the sport to appeal to other countries developing their baseball programs more but it didn't seem like they were disappointed with the turnout for the event
Few things:
We're a basketball forum for a Texas (not really a baseball state) team that is half filled with foreigners from non-baseball playing countries.
I've responded to you about Redzone. I don't care about watching the Saints drive against the Bucs. I'd probably rather watch commercials than some ty NFC South highlight.
1. A Spurtalk.com "poll" or anything similar to that isn't really a scientific model. I wouldn't exactly use something like that in court. I'm sure you realized this though. However; it does have more than 30 participants so from a mathematical/statistical standpoint it shouldn't be automatically disqualified either.
2. Texas does field two MLB teams. Am I right?
3. Finally, on the RedZone comment. You ALWAYS use commercials as your excuse to not watch the NFL. It's your go-to. When you list things you don't like about the NFL the abundance of commercials always comes first. I've told you of a way to completely eliminate this problem and you on it by talking about how you don't want to watch the Bucs vs. Saints drive. The show is like 6+ hours long. Trust me when I say this, but Bucs vs. Saints drives probably make up less than 1% of that time. I just wish you'd be honest here. Just say that you don't like football, and no matter what you won't watch it (which is completely fine). Stop saying commercials are your biggest deterrent. Because if that is truly the case the RedZone would alleviate those concerns immediately.
The rest is a good post...and I agree with a lot of it. Just don't have the time to go into all of it.
No. It seems like you want me to admit that foobaw is flawless in its presentation "cuz Redzone!"
Let me rephrase the issue then:
"When I watch the Raiders, I want to watch the Raiders. I can look up highlights of other teams later. And when I watch the Raiders, I unfortunately have to sit through an hour and half of truck, beer, and smartphone commercials that are shown at the stupidest times (after a kickoff, during a challenge [MLB stays with the game during challenges], after a 3 and out. Redzone you say? Doesn't matter. It's still a break in the action from the team I want to watch."
In addition to that, I have to suffer through 3 and a half hours of a spastically officiated game.
I like football just fine. The NFL is a different story.
No sport is flawless. C'mon now. Millions of fans (like myself) don't live anywhere near their favorite football team and find RedZone to be an suitable replacement. I can't watch the local Bucs TV broadcast.
Still wondering why you won't even give it a shot and all over it. Every football fan I know seems to absolutely love it. Just saying....
Again, why should I want to watch a drive of a team I'm not interested in? Even if it's a division rival, I can just check the score later.
Here's a thought. The NFL reduce its number of commercials.
Baseball is a more technically developed sport than either football type (soccer or American football).
Australian rules football beats all of it imo
Fantastic idea. I'm all aboard. Think they're doing this next year btw tbh fwiw.
I'm still going to watch RedZone every single weekend though. It's 5x better than the local TV broadcast of the game.
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