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    "If you were San Antonio, what would you be comfortable with offering Patty Mills this offseason? Would it be reasonable to expect him to be at least a passable starting point guard in two seasons, after Tony Parker's contract expires?" -- Evan Kirkpatrick
    To take the latter question first, I think so. There's been some concern about whether Mills can succeed without Manu Ginobili alongside him to share ballhandling duties. I don't think the statistical evidence backs that up. The Spurs have a slightly better offensive rating (and net rating) when Mills plays without Ginobili, per NBA.com/Stats, and such lineups that include Kawhi Leonard have been more effective, posting a sizzling 115.6 offensive rating in 447 minutes. Some of that is probably Leonard and company beating up on second units, but we've also seen Mills finish several games recently.
    Leonard's development into a viable shot creator makes it easier to compensate for the fact that Mills is not a natural playmaker, and Mills' shooting makes him a dangerous spot-up threat when Leonard isolates.
    There are three issues here:

    1. Mills' age (he'll be 30 before the 2018-19 season)
    2. The possible development of Dejounte Murray into a starting-caliber point guard
    3. The ability for San Antonio to clear huge cap space in either the summer of 2018 or 2019, depending on whether LaMarcus Aldridge and Danny Green pick up 2018-19 player options, which is unlikely

    A big one-year contract might be ideal for the Spurs in terms of retaining flexibility. Unfortunately, Mills will surely get multi-year offers from other teams, so realistically San Antonio would probably have to go at least two years. I'd probably be comfortable paying up to $30 million over that span, given how difficult it would be for the Spurs to replace Mills in free agency this summer.

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    That amount that he suggests is $15 mill per season FYI

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    That's too much money.

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    He gone tbh.

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    A 39 year old Manu got $14 this season and reportedly took a discount since he was offered more.

    The point Pelton finished with was that SA would be hard pressed to replace his production in FA.

    Tea leaves on this one are hard to read.

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    Yeah, $15mil per is far too much. Like others have said, 4/40-50 makes more sense.

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    Patty Mills isn't worth 15 millions under any cir stances..

    Paying that kind of money for a one-trick pony player who barely averaged 10 PPG twice in his career and never played over 22 MPG would mean PATFO have lost the plot for real..

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    ^^^
    It's possible he's gone then, if that's the mentality with the Spurs... I think the pelton point is that he gets a payday these two seasons to stay and leave flexibility for the 18-19 season.

    I tend to think Spurs value him... but they must have a magic number. If they aren't going to make runs at FA this offseason or the next one it makes sense... Still it's possible he's gone too.

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    I find it interesting that Kirkpatrick thinks it is unlikely that LMA AND Danny will pick up player options in 2018-19 (assuming they are both around).

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    He probably gets 3 year 13mil per.

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    He's not worth that but we don't have anyone else. Dejounte is more than one season away from being ready imo.

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    He's not worth that but we don't have anyone else. Dejounte is more than one season away from being ready imo.
    Ready for what?

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    You don't win championships getting rid of your talent.

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    No way Green doesn't pick up his player option imo, unless he wants to take a further paycut to help the team (which he shouldn't do, but I imagine in that cir stance the team would take care of him later down the line). He'll be on the decline physically, with a poor showing thus far on his new contract. Even with the money being thrown around the league right now I can't see a team.offering him a contract like he would've gotten a few years ago. LMA might be in the same boat, but he could still prolly fetch $20mil per year on a middling team and get a prime role if his game doesn't fall off a cliff.

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    Murray will make up a lot of production at the back up PG spot in many other ways and on both ends

    Let Mills get paid elsewhere

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    Zero dollars this dude is physically overmatched and wildly inconsistent

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    I'd rather trade Green and give that money to Mills, then proceed to draft a SG in the first round. But if that doesn't happen.....


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    15 mill, holy cow! bye bye Patty, steal money from some other franchise please.

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    nah, let him go.

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    Let him go

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    If dude comes up huge in the playoffs that could be the determining factor. Don't know if Patfo even know what their plans are yet.

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    Mills is worthless on defense. He was a big reason why we lost the clips series a couple of seasons ago. They attack him every time he's on the floor.

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    Mills is worthless on defense. He was a big reason why we lost the clips series a couple of seasons ago. They attack him every time he's on the floor.
    Well it's not a bad strategy to try to have Austin Rivers try to beat you. Problem is he plays like Michael Jordan against us, and then utter garbage against other teams.

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    I'm sure Spurs want him back but obviously have a limit to how much they are willing to pay him.

    I think that limit will be determined by 2 factors.

    1) With how he performs this playoffs
    2) With how they feel about Murray

    Manu retiring or not retiring may also play a role.

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    Well it's not a bad strategy to try to have Austin Rivers try to beat you. Problem is he plays like Michael Jordan against us, and then utter garbage against other teams.
    Very true, but then again, scrubs going off on the spurs seems to happen often.

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