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    Rep. Adam Schiff Dismisses Phony GOP Outrage Over Susan Rice As Just Another Trump Distraction

    "No matter what the White House throws at us, we're going to be pressing forward."




    Schiff said it’s up to the FBI to remain proactive in the investigation and assured the American people that he would not be distracted from getting to the bottom of this major scandal:

    “[Trump] is not going to change. He is who he is. So if they’re making efforts at the White House to interfere with our investigation, they’re going to continue to do that throughout the investigation. Whether they will risk doing that with the FBI, I don’t know, but we need to count on the bureau to maintain the integrity of that investigation. And I can assure you no matter what the White House throws at us, we’re going to be pressing forward. We’re determined to overcome any obstacle and use every resource we have.”

    Schiff concluded by saying how important it is, despite Republican efforts, that the investigation is carried out in a way that’s transparent, so people can see the evidence and trust the end result of the investigation. He plans to continue pushing for public hearings.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/...iticus+USA+%29

    Checks and balances, great in theory, but when the Repugs control Congress and WH, total failure.

    Repugs the Cons ution, America and Americans.

    Their only priority is protecting/enabling/enriching their BigDonor and thereby themselves.


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    You write this as serious stuff when our President tweets he has been spied upon by his predecessor?
    Holy ... This is part of what happens when you use the office like a funhouse. The politicians themselves are clearly partially responsible for using the intelligence community for political purposes. Or just gossip.

    Dammit man wake the up.
    Please explain the bolded as the surveillance was going on since July 2016. Trump wasn't even a serious candidate in July 2016, if he was under surveillance chances look good some of the more serious candidates were also under surveillance...Rubio, Kasich, Cruz.

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    Rice's unmasking was not only legal, it was justified as "probable cause" of Trash and his team talking to a geopolitical adversary.
    Which geopolitical adversary? It's been revealed the communications had nothing to do with Russia.

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    But while through most of its history the do ent has been marked “For the President’s Eyes Only,” the PDB has never gone to the president alone. The most restricted dissemination was in the early 1970s, when the book went only to President Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, who was dual-hatted as national security adviser and secretary of state. In other administrations, the circle of readers has also included the vice president, the secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, along with additional White House staffers. By 2013, Obama’s PDB was making its way to more than 30 recipients, including the president’s top strategic communications aide and speechwriter, and deputy secretaries of national security departments.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.a7a9ad946b0e



    Susan Rice @00:51 – …”Let me explain how this works. I was a National Security Adviser, my job is to protect the American people and the security of our country. That’s the same as the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense and CIA Director.; and every morning, to enable us to do that, we receive – from the intelligence community – a compilation of intelligence reports that the IC, the intelligence community, has selected for us –on a daily basis– to give us the best information as to what’s going on around the world.”

    “I received those reports, as did other officials, and there were occasions when I would receive a report in which, uh, a ‘U.S Person’ was referred to. Name, uh, not provided, just ‘U.S. Person’.

    And sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance in the report – and assess it’s significance, it was necessary to find out or request, who that U.S. official was.”


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    Did Susan Rice just reveal she was asking for US persons to be unmasked in the Presidents Daily Briefing? The same Presidents Daily Briefing that was being shared with 30+ recipients?

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    I agree with clambake. Obama is a baaaad man.
    he's been fisting him since that dinner.

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    And lery took it up the pooper Caligula style

    I wish i could photoshop

    no doubt that was fun to watch.

    but.......lets take a look at the cast in this new season. i just wish obama would say "you're goddamn right i did"

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    "As his presidency drew to a close, Barack Obama’s top aides routinely reviewed intelligence reports gleaned from the National Security Agency’s incidental intercepts of Americans abroad, taking advantage of rules their boss relaxed starting in 2011 to help the government better fight terrorism, espionage by foreign enemies and hacking threats, Circa has learned.

    Dozens of times in 2016, those intelligence reports identified Americans who were directly intercepted talking to foreign sources or were the subject of conversations between two or more monitored foreign figures. Sometimes the Americans’ names were officially unmasked; other times they were so specifically described in the reports that their iden ies were readily discernible. Among those cleared to request and consume unmasked NSA-based intelligence reports about U.S. citizens were Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice, his CIA Director John Brennan and then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

    Some intercepted communications from November to January involved Trump transition figures or foreign figures' perceptions of the incoming president and his administration. Intercepts involving congressional figures also have been unmasked occasionally for some time.

    The NSA is expected to turn over logs as early as this week to congressional committees detailing who consumed reports with unmasked Americans' iden ies from their intercepts since the summer of 2016."



    "For years, the NSA has been required to follow strict rules to protect the accidental intercepts of Americans from being consumed or misused by other government agencies. The rules required a process known as minimization, where the iden y and information about an American who was intercepted is redacted or masked with generic references like “American No. 1.”

    The number of senior government officials who could approve unmasking had been limited to just a few, like the NSA director himself.

    But as the U.S. intelligence community became more worried over the last decade about its ability to locate lone wolf terrorists, foreign spies and hackers in an increasingly digital world, Bush and Obama began relaxing the rules for minimization and increasing access to NSA collected information on Americans. In short, the Obama administration created a standard set of “exceptions” to the minimization rules.

    One of those relaxations came in 2011 when Attorney General Eric Holder sent a memo to the FISA court laying out the rules for sharing unmasked intercepts of Americans captured incidentally by the NSA. The court approved the approach.

    In 2015, those rules were adapted to determine not only how the FBI got access to unmasked intelligence from NSA or FISA intercepts but also other agencies. One of the requirements, the NSA and FBI had to keep good records of who requested and gained access to the unredacted information."


    "And in his final days in office, Obama created the largest ever expansion of access to non-minimized NSA intercepts, creating a path for all U.S. intelligence to gain access to unmasked reports by changes encoded in a Reagan-era Executive Order 12333.

    The government officials who could request or approve an exception to unmask a U.S. citizen’s iden y has grown substantially. The NSA now has 20 executives who can approve the unmasking of American information inside intercepts, and the FBI has similar numbers.

    And executives in 16 agencies -- not just the FBI, CIA and NSA -- have the right to request unmasked information."


    http://circa.com/politics/barack-oba...ould-be-shared

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    As the facts about who surveilled whom during the transition get sorted out, it is useful to remember why Trump’s team and his supporters have reason to be su ious, thanks to a long do ented history of Obama using shady surveillance tactics on both political opponents and international allies. Rhodes himself knows this history but that doesn’t seem to matter as he once again attempts to make people believe he fell out of the sky and onto Twitter on January 21st, 2017.

    To help jog Rhodes’ memory, below are all the do ented instances of the Obama administration using and in some cases abusing surveillance.

    1. Fox News reporter James Rosen

    In 2013 the news broke that Eric Holder’s Justice Department had spied on James Rosen. Obama’s DOJ collected Rosen’s telephone records as well as tracked his movements to and from the State Department from where he reported. Rosen was named as a possible co-conspirator in a Justice Department affidavit. Rosen claims that his parents phone line was also swept up in the collection of his records and DOJ records seem to confirm that. Despite the targeting of Rosen, there were no brave calls to boycott the White House Correspondents Dinner.

    2. Senate Intelligence Committee and the CIA

    CIA officers penetrated a network used to share information by Senate Intel committee members, including Sen. Diane Feinstein, the committee’s Democrat chair. The bombs New York Times report went on to disclose:

    The C.I.A. officials penetrated the computer network when they came to suspect that the committee’s staff had gained unauthorized access to an internal C.I.A. review of the detention program that the spy agency never intended to give to Congress. A C.I.A. lawyer then referred the agency’s su ions to the Justice Department to determine whether the committee staff broke the law when it obtained that do ent. The inspector general report said that there was no “factual basis” for this referral, which the Justice Department has declined to investigate, because the lawyer had been provided inaccurate information. The report said that the three information technology officers “demonstrated a lack of candor about their activities” during interviews with the inspector general.

    The Obama White House defended CIA director John Brennan’s actions and response. Imagine that.

    3. Prism
    In 2013, it was revealed how the Obama administration and NSA were facilitating a secret government mass surveillance program called Prism, because the name Orwell would have been too obvious, I guess.

    Prism was created to access private communications of internet subscribers through several IP providers. This was done without the knowledge (or at the very least, the denial) or permission of the leaders of the targeted companies, including Google, Yahoo and Facebook. Defenders of the program, including President Obama suggested that Americans were not intentionally being caught up in Prism’s net and that the program was only to monitor actively from outside the united states coming into the country as part of the FISA authorization.

    This is the same claim that is being made in the Flynn case. Director of Intelligence James Clapper while under oath denied any American citizens were currently under surveillance. When pressed again, Clapper hedged his answer by saying “Not intentionally.” The Washington Post hammered Obama himself for a misleading claim in a press conference he gave post discovery, led “Remember when Obama said the NSA wasn’t “actually abusing” its powers? He was wrong.”

    4. Angela Merkel and German Foreign Press

    Every country spies on every country. This is not exactly a shocking revelation, be it ally or enemy. When, using information provided by Edward Snowden, Wikileaks revealed in Der Spiegel that Obama’s NSA had possibly targeted German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s private communications however, it was a direct black eye to the President. Jake Tapper, not exactly known for his hackneyed loyalty toward the Trump administration wrote in 2015, “Obama administration spied on German media as well as its government.” Tapper reported:

    Less observed this week was news that the NSA was eavesdropping not only on Merkel, but also in some capacity on Germany’s free press, specifically Der Spiegel. CNN has learned that in early summer 2011, the CIA station chief in Berlin (also representing the NSA at the U.S. Embassy) met with Heiss and his assistant Guido Müller. The CIA station chief urged the two men to take action against Heiss’ deputy, Hans-Josef Vorbeck, who he said was leaking classified information to journalists.
    That the U.S. government thought it appropriate to spy on journalists doing their jobs is controversial enough. But why would it be appropriate for U.S. officials to use these tools—given to save lives and protect U.S. national security—to notify the German government about officials talking to reporters in the normal exercise of a free press?”

    The Obama administration defense was that this all falls under POLICY DIRECTIVE/PPD-28

    Merkel was not alone. French President Francois Hollande was skeptical of the Obama administration and NSA’s explanation as was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when members of Congress were swept up in intelligence gathering while targeting top Israeli officials.

    5. Associated Press Phone Records

    Much like James Rosen and his shady al Qaeda looking parents, Obama’s Justice Department secretly obtained months of phone records belonging to AP journalists while investigating a failed terror attack. And much like the Rosen spying, this was personally approved by Attorney General Holder.

    Mass surveillance and expansion of such under the Patriot Act is one of the most historically prevalent things about the Obama administration. There’s even a Wikipedia page dedicated to that alone. So why do the media and former administration officials act shocked and surprised when someone points the finger in their direction and asks if targeting an incoming President is possible?

    There is a long, decorated history of questionable—even uncons utional—surveillance from the Obama administration none of which proves Trump’s twitter ravings to be true. But it certainly is enough to raise su ions among Trump’s supporters and even some of this critics that he could be perfectly correct.

    https://heatst.com/politics/the-obam...-surveillance/

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    thats awesome .


    keep it coming!

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    “…the president requested the compliation of the intelligence, which was ultimately provided in January [2017].”---Susan Rice

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    FBI vs CIA vs NSA = eternal bureaucratic turf battle
    They are all together on this. PLUS Britain and other intelligence agencies overseas.

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    TRUMP thinking removing Bannon is going to make the Feds go away.

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    TRUMP thinking removing Bannon is going to make the Feds go away.
    thinking Bannon was removed for that reason

    Bannon originally served on the committee as a check against Michael Flynn before Flynn was ousted as National Security Advisor, a top White House official told NBC News. However, Bannon only attended one meeting and felt he was no longer needed in that role after the selection of H.R. McMaster as national security advisor.

    McMaster, who Bannon wanted in the role, was given authority to reorganize the committee when he joined the White House, according to NBC.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/05/steve...anization.html

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    djohn2oo8 I am still waiting for your list of who is getting indicted and for what, don't be shy.

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    Trump’s Russia Denials Are Falling Apart As Steve Bannon Is Removed From The NSC

    Trump's Russia denials just fell apart as after months of denying that they knew Mike Flynn had Russia connections, White House officials admitted that they knew Flynn "had problems" which is why Steve Bannon was on the NSC.


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    sr WH official tells me Bannon was only on NSC to keep an eye on Flynn & "de-operationalize NSC from Rice" & that he never went to a meeting
    10:43 AM - 5 Apr 2017



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    Same official says the president made the decision, this was the deal from the beginning, and "we all knew Flynn had issues"
    10:48 AM - 5 Apr 2017

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/05/trumps-russia-denials-falling-steve-bannon-removed-nsc.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm _campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politicus +USA+%29


    Mr PizzaGate TSA, what say you?

    They "ALL KNEW" Flynn was a load of problems, but they gave him the job, anyway?

    Maybe just to spite Obama's team for canning Flynn BECAUSE he was a load of problems?

    So WH/Repugs gonna say,

    "OK, we got rid our Trash's SOLE Russian connection, so WH/Trash are clean now" LIE!



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    Trump’s Russia Denials Are Falling Apart As Steve Bannon Is Removed From The NSC

    Trump's Russia denials just fell apart as after months of denying that they knew Mike Flynn had Russia connections, White House officials admitted that they knew Flynn "had problems" which is why Steve Bannon was on the NSC.


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    sr WH official tells me Bannon was only on NSC to keep an eye on Flynn & "de-operationalize NSC from Rice" & that he never went to a meeting
    10:43 AM - 5 Apr 2017



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    Same official says the president made the decision, this was the deal from the beginning, and "we all knew Flynn had issues"
    10:48 AM - 5 Apr 2017

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/05/trumps-russia-denials-falling-steve-bannon-removed-nsc.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm _campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politicus +USA+%29


    Mr PizzaGate TSA, what say you?

    They "ALL KNEW" Flynn was a load of problems, but they gave him the job, anyway?

    Maybe just to spite Obama's team for canning Flynn BECAUSE he was a load of problems?

    So WH/Repugs gonna say,

    "OK, we got rid our Trash's SOLE Russian connection, so WH/Trash are clean now" LIE!


    Page 109 and Flynn still not in major trouble

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    They "ALL KNEW" Flynn was a load of problems, but they gave him the job, anyway?

    Maybe just to spite Obama's team for canning Flynn BECAUSE he was a load of problems?
    drain the swamp

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    Page 109 and Flynn still not in major trouble
    he's spewing clouds of fishy-scented smoke out of every orifice. There's fire in there somewhere.

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    he's spewing clouds of fishy-scented smoke out of every orifice. There's fire in there somewhere.
    Under surveillance since July 2016, still no fire.

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    Rice's unmasking was not only legal, it was justified as "probable cause" of Trash and his team talking to a geopolitical adversary.
    Which geopolitical adversary? It's been revealed the communications had nothing to do with Russia.

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    Which geopolitical adversary? It's been revealed the communications had nothing to do with Russia.
    now he has something to do with russia.

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    Which geopolitical adversary? It's been revealed the communications had nothing to do with Russia.
    if that's true (NSA "tapps" everyone talking to anybody overseas anyway), how to know that's true? By "tapping"

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