2017 MVP

[Trueblood]

They need to just change the name of the award to offensive player of the year because that's all that they look at. Westbrook is a joke on defense and Harden openly talks about how his game wouldn't be "fun" anymore if he focused on defense. Watch the klaw get it on second place votes like he did his first DPotY

[NameLess Scrub]

As crazy as it sounds, there might still be a chance for the KingSlayer to get MVP this year. The drums are beating for Westbrook but there is a growing group that are against him. Either Hardenites, or people who don't think the Thunderrefs have won enough, or those who simply either don't like him or the way he has gone about getting this record. I watched Isiah Thomas actually put a piece together showing the Thunderrefs feeding Russ rebounds (an ESPN talking head did an animated short on it too) talk of his defensive ineffectiveness. So while he got a record no one ever thought they would see again crowd gets louder, so is the he is only a 6th seed and his team is artificially inflating his stats crowd. My feeling is that Harden supporters will put Westbrook 5th on their ballots, and the old schoolers for whom winning is everything won't have him higher than 4th. Likewise the Westbrook supporters who want Russ to win will slip Harden down to third on their ballots. This might mean Kiwi could sweep up all the 2nd place votes and actually be the MVP. In fact I think the powers that be fear this which is why the uptick in all the Russ coverage even in losses. Isiah seemed to truly take offense in how the Thunder rebound and the fact that Russ doesn't really play good defense.

Got a link to the analysis?

[$pursDynasty]

It was this week post game nbatv show not sure which day, will look for it when I have time.

[spursistan]

This stat-padding got is going to be the league MVP ..Down 20 with 2 minutes left..

[dabom]

Why do people even care for big numbers on poverty/lottery teams.

[dabom]

The cousins of guards.

[BillMc]

ESPN with their prediction BS http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ctions-nba-mvp

[dabom]

ESPN is trying to sell the guy who generates the most clicks. It's a sad time to give it to a stat padder.

[dabom]

There are only 2 clear choices. You either like all the stat padding and you give it to Westbrook over harden, or you give it to the guy that has wins, Kawhi over harden.

[BillMc]

ESPN is trying to sell the guy who generates the most clicks. It's a sad time to give it to a stat padder.

Yep.

Which MVP has the best record against the teams of the other MVP's? By far?

Which of the MVP plays the best defense? It's not just an offensive award!

[spursistan]

[dabom]

Kawhi picking up some steam.

[spurs10]

Yeah Sean was right, they should call it MVOP!

[Old School 44]

They need to just change the name of the award to offensive player of the year because that's all that they look at. Westbrook is a joke on defense and Harden openly talks about how his game wouldn't be "fun" anymore if he focused on defense. Watch the klaw get it on second place votes like he did his first DPotY

This. The Harden/Westbrook camp's first place votes will be split, and Kawhi will get most of the second place votes.

[SpursFan86]

Holy , Clutchfans is seriously melting down about Harden potentially not winning it this year

[spurs10]

Even Harden saying it should be about wins...of course he wasn't thinking about Kawhi who obviously has him beat there and as an all around player.

[$pursDynasty]

This. The Harden/Westbrook camp's first place votes will be split, and Kawhi will get most of the second place votes.

Westbrook supporters: Triple doubles rule!!! We can't put Harden #2 he might beat out our guy, let's go Kawhi at #2 (Harden at #4 or #5)

Harden Supporters: Wins matter. We can't let that chucker Westbrook win so let's put Kiwi at #2 because wins matter (Westbrook at #4 or #5)

Lebron Supporters: Best player on the planet, screw those stat s, people better recognize the King! Let's put Kiwi #2 he isn't serious compe ion. (Russ and Harden at #4 and #5)

Kiwi Supporters: Best player with the best record of the contenders. I have no idea where they go at #2 because to be a Kiwi guy means you respect defense but none of the other 3 contenders regularly emphasize it, maybe LBJ?

[dabom]

Kawhi number is number 2.

[baseline bum]

I can live with Harden getting MVP. He has done a lot without much of a supporting cast in Houston. But Westbrook winning MVP would be a disgrace. I hate how everyone fawns over his statpadding, just like they used to do with Rondo's overrated ass in Boston. Westbrook has a lot better supporting cast than Harden does and yet they're going to get 46-48 wins while Houston will finish with 54-55.

[Brazil]

meh

[dabom]

meh

You'd be all over this if it was porker.

[SpursFan86]

Does Westbrook statpad? Sure. Has he still put up an absolutely incredible and historic season while having a monstrous positive impact on games? Definitely.

Literally every metric/number out there points to the idea that Westbrook is helping his team win games. It's not like he's just putting up gaudy box score numbers and his team doesn't do well with him on the floor. His team falls off a cliff without him.

If you think Harden or Kawhi should be MVP over him, I'm cool with that. But acting like Westbrook doesn't have a legitimate argument for MVP is going a bit overboard IMO. Dude has been ridiculous this year.

[dabom]

This got always shows up to gobble another team's player.

[Brazil]

You'd be all over this if it was porker.

my meh was about an embedded tweet that went wrong

for the rest you know my stance about it, Kawhi should be mvp. Har_en is second and westbrook is a er that can eat

[dabom]

my meh was about an embedded tweet that went wrong

for the rest you know my stance about it, Kawhi should be mvp. Har_en is second and westbrook is a er that can eat

Props.