85pts...

[apalisoc_9]

What a horrible offensive performance....again.

Despite Leonard scoring well...

[spursistan]

The lack of perimeter play-making from the guard position is just flat out disgusting..I'm officially open to all scenarios of playoff embarrassment for this team.

People forget that the Spurs got a decent-ish Parker in the OKC series and still got bounced..They'll have a much worse version this postseason and Mills who's been slumping for months..

Pop should ponder non- TP/Mills lineups in the playoffs so at least we can cover-up our asses on defense go all-in on that end--try to win basketball games in slugfests..

[apalisoc_9]

The lack of perimeter play-making from the guard position is just flat out disgusting..I'm officially open to all scenarios of playoff embarrassment for this team.

People forget that the Spurs got a decent-ish Parker in the OKC series and still got bounced..They'll have a much worse version this postseason and Mills who's been slumping for months..

Pop should ponder non- TP/Mills lineups in the playoffs so at least we can cover-up our asses on defense go all-in on that end--try to win basketball games in slugfests..

Pray for Murray tbh. We badly need a penetrating Guard.

I am almost 95% sure Mills is a gonner unless the spurs pull off a win this year.

[SAGirl]

Maybe playoff total embarrassment is the only thing that will move Pop to do something about the guard play.

I can't see them running this thing right back, although they would have to trade someone in a chunky contract to improve the team.

It's too bad we couldn't get some Murray to end the season and see how he could look with more regular playing time.

[daslicer]

A troll is going to troll. Spurs will get to the WCF.

[SAGirl]

Pray for Murray tbh. We badly need a penetrating Guard.

I am almost 95% sure Mills is a gonner unless the spurs pull off a win this year.

I am with you on that.

[TheGreatYacht]

Murray is the only hope. There's zero good guards on this team atm

[timtonymanu]

lol acting like another playoff embarrassment is gonna change things. We still have loyalty to Enrique for 1 more season.

[apalisoc_9]

lol acting like another playoff embarrassment is gonna change things. We still have loyalty to Enrique for 1 more season.

Parker can play the 15-20 minutes "composed" slow down the game role. You might need him if Murray is playing erractic. Sadly, They might just have to let go of Mills so this team can have some sort of progress in the PG department.

[GSH]

The lack of perimeter play-making from the guard position is just flat out disgusting..I'm officially open to all scenarios of playoff embarrassment for this team.

The guards were horrible, with the exception of Simmons. He had 8 points, 4 boards, and 4 AST, on 50% shooting and no TO's. For a marginal NBA player, that's a decent outing. I'd take that from him every single game.

But its not just the guard's playmaking, even though that was just about non-existent. I remember quite a few plays where Pau was standing out near the 3P line holding the ball, and nobody could even come open for him to pass to. Not only were they moving in slow motion, they weren't making hard cuts. Basically they were jogging around like they don't give a . Either that, or they just don't have the foot speed to get it done. I'm not sure which is worse.

I've been saying since preseason that they are a second round exit. I'm starting to wonder if I was being too optimistic. I know the Clippers were clawing for home court in the first round, and the game didn't mean anything to the Spurs. But I hate it when they go into the playoffs playing like . I hope they pick it up a notch for the playoffs, but all the other playoff teams are going to be trying to do the same thing.

[SAGirl]

Parker can play the 15-20 minutes "composed" slow down the game role. You might need him if Murray is playing erractic. Sadly, They might just have to let go of Mills so this team can have some sort of progress in the PG department.

MaNu4Tres
has been saying it all season. I have wavered sometimes bc frankly we haven't seen enough Murray to even begin to talk seriously about it. But he's right. It makes no sense to pay Patty when Tony is still under contract at a hefty price and they need to push Murray along.

Patty gets overwhelmed by size. He can't get passes clean bc he's so small. He's a jumpshooter that can streak to bad nights, has limitations on defense bc he's so small.

He's got a high motor and energy and I love him for 2014, just like I did good old Bobo, but moving forward he's not the answer either.

[GSH]

Pray for Murray tbh. We badly need a penetrating Guard.

Maybe a penetrating guard is what Tony needs to keep him focused on basketball.

[sananspursfan21]

While I doubt they had their best effort on the floor tonight, I also remember the days when our Spurs entered the playoffs revved up and ready to tear a team up. I don't doubt they are keeping the dial turned down some because they don't look interested, I'd hate for them to slouch like this only to find out it's too late to flip the switch. Maybe I'm being a good ol days boy but I'd prefer to see them enter the playoffs guns blazing

[SAGirl]

The guards were horrible, with the exception of Simmons. He had 8 points, 4 boards, and 4 AST, on 50% shooting and no TO's. For a marginal NBA player, that's a decent outing. I'd take that from him every single game.

But its not just the guard's playmaking, even though that was just about non-existent. I remember quite a few plays where Pau was standing out near the 3P line holding the ball, and nobody could even come open for him to pass to. Not only were they moving in slow motion, they weren't making hard cuts. Basically they were jogging around like they don't give a . Either that, or they just don't have the foot speed to get it done. I'm not sure which is worse.

I've been saying since preseason that they are a second round exit. I'm starting to wonder if I was being too optimistic. I know the Clippers were clawing for home court in the first round, and the game didn't mean anything to the Spurs. But I hate it when they go into the playoffs playing like . I hope they pick it up a notch for the playoffs, but all the other playoff teams are going to be trying to do the same thing.

I hated that too. I would have rather seen one half of a game, the first half of them playing well and inspired, and then sit out and let the game fall where it may with the deep bench players, than the spectacle we saw.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs need to cut Anthony and try out some D-League guard in the last meaningless games....

Would've been great if Briante Weber (Pat Bev 2.0) was still available but he's in Charlotte.

[picnroll]

Maybe playoff total embarrassment is the only thing that will move Pop to do something about the guard play.

I'm down with that. If Pop's starting Parker next year Pop should be moved to an assisted living facility. Same with Mills. There are a bunch of third string PG that can bring more O and D at this point.

[MaNu4Tres]

MaNu4Tres
has been saying it all season. I have wavered sometimes bc frankly we haven't seen enough Murray to even begin to talk seriously about it. But he's right. It makes no sense to pay Patty when Tony is still under contract at a hefty price and they need to push Murray along.

Patty gets overwhelmed by size. He can't get passes clean bc he's so small. He's a jumpshooter that can streak to bad nights, has limitations on defense bc he's so small.

He's got a high motor and energy and I love him for 2014, just like I did good old Bobo, but moving forward he's not the answer either.

The ceiling is just higher with Murray and he's much cheaper option. That 15-17 mil per allocated to Mills could be huge in the summer of 18' to use on a more relevant and useful piece. I don't get why some ST'rs on here judge Murray kid based on 1 or 3 mop up minutes. The real assessment should come when he's played 20+ minutes playing in a disciplined role trying to run the offense with optimal focus with better players. In those scenarios, Murray avg. 11.4 points on 53% shooting, 38% from 3, 4 rebounds 3 assists per game in only 22 MPG. Its not just stats either, the kid passed the eye test too. He has tools that you just can't teach and a quick first step that is huge when penetrating against close outs ( off ball from Kawhi playmaking) and its huge in turning the corner on PnRs (on ball scenario). He has tools that Parker and Mills never had and never will have due to his size, speed, and length that's a rarity at the PG position. More importantly, he's an asset and a positive on BOTH ends and has potential to be a Kawhi but at the PG position ( being a top defender at the position and a leader offensively).

Paying Patty 15 mil would mean you ruin Murrays' edge using his size at the back up PG position because you basically move Murray to the 2 -- which is dumb because you stagnate Murrays growth towards being the starting PG Spurs need him to be. Spurs need him to be that guy as soon as possible. Letting Patty go, and giving Murray the keys at the back up PG position expedites his growth at the position. I guarantee Murray will be the starting PG by AS break next year as long as he's not injured.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah Pattys not coming back. Unless he wants to play for cheap again. They won't get rid of Parker and that means they won't target George Hill either if they go all in on Murray.

[SAGirl]

The ceiling is just higher with Murray and he's much cheaper option. That 15-17 mil per allocated to Mills could be huge in the summer of 18' to use on a more relevant and useful piece. I don't get why some ST'rs on here judge Murray kid based on 1 or 3 mop up minutes. The real assessment should come when he's played 20+ minutes playing in a disciplined role trying to run the offense with optimal focus with better players. In those scenarios, Murray avg. 11.4 points on 53% shooting, 38% from 3, 4 rebounds 3 assists per game in only 22 MPG. Its not just stats either, the kid passed the eye test too. He has tools that you just can't teach and a quick first step that is huge when penetrating against close outs ( off ball from Kawhi playmaking) and its huge in turning the corner on PnRs (on ball scenario). He has tools that Parker and Mills never had and never will have due to his size, speed, and length that's a rarity at the PG position. More importantly, he's an asset and a positive on BOTH ends and has potential to be a Kawhi but at the PG position ( being a top defender at the position and a leader offensively).

Paying Patty 15 mil would mean you ruin Murrays' edge using his size at the back up PG position because you basically move Murray to the 2 -- which is dumb because you stagnate Murrays growth towards being the starting PG Spurs need him to be. Spurs need him to be that guy as soon as possible. Letting Patty go, and giving Murray the keys at the back up PG position expedites his growth at the position. I guarantee Murray will be the starting PG by AS break next year as long as he's not injured.

Yes I agree.
They go this way and see how he does. He doesn't hamstring them in any way in his rook contract and is bound to improve more and more as he grows. We shall see.

I don't have that much confidence in PATFO right now, but we shall see. Pop has definitely seen that Tony is not helping the team and is benching him. He also has been reluctant to quickly just flat out promote Mills to a starting spot bc he's not that much better for an entire game/all situations.

[spursistan]

IMO we have reached the point of "nothing to lose" if you trot out a 20 year-old rookie with panache style and athletic ability when Parker/Mills are this in useless..

[MaNu4Tres]

The lack of perimeter play-making from the guard position is just flat out disgusting..I'm officially open to all scenarios of playoff embarrassment for this team.

People forget that the Spurs got a decent-ish Parker in the OKC series and still got bounced..They'll have a much worse version this postseason and Mills who's been slumping for months..

Pop should ponder non- TP/Mills lineups in the playoffs so at least we can cover-up our asses on defense go all-in on that end--try to win basketball games in slugfests..

I've been saying they need to do this on here and on twitter. It's their only hope vs. HOU and GS. They have to implement lineups of Kawhi, Manu, Green, Simmons or Anderson, Dedmon or LA. Or Kawhi, Simmons, Green, LA, Dedmon, ect.

[td4mvp21]

I've been saying since preseason that they are a second round exit. I'm starting to wonder if I was being too optimistic. I know the Clippers were clawing for home court in the first round, and the game didn't mean anything to the Spurs. But I hate it when they go into the playoffs playing like . I hope they pick it up a notch for the playoffs, but all the other playoff teams are going to be trying to do the same thing.

I'm pretty skeptical about this team's ability to get past the second round, but how they play right before the playoffs hasn't always been indicative of how they will perform in the postseason. They were on a 10-game win streak entering the postseason in 2012 and then flamed out in the WCF. In 2013, they were slumping hard at the end of the regular season but ended up making the Finals. Also, in 2015 they were hot (minus the Pelicans loss) but lost in the first round. I think the 2005 & 2007 teams entered the postseason on losing streaks. The 2014 team had gone 3-4 in their last 7 games and entered the postseason on a 2-game losing streak.

Basically, it's hard to draw conclusions about the Spurs' playoff hopes based on the final weeks of the regular season. You don't always know what you're going to get with them.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm pretty skeptical about this team's ability to get past the second round, but how they play right before the playoffs hasn't always been indicative of how they will perform in the postseason. They were on a 10-game win streak entering the postseason in 2012 and then flamed out in the WCF. In 2013, they were slumping hard at the end of the regular season but ended up making the Finals. Also, in 2015 they were hot (minus the Pelicans loss) but lost in the first round. I think the 2005 & 2007 teams entered the postseason on losing streaks. The 2014 team had gone 3-4 in their last 7 games and entered the postseason on a 2-game losing streak.

Basically, it's hard to draw conclusions about the Spurs' playoff hopes based on the final weeks of the regular season. You don't always know what you're going to get with them.

They flamed out in 2012 because Harden went God mode, and because Pop essentially took out Green and Splitter from the rotation because of a few bad games on the road in games 3 and 4. So dumb to just blow it up like that, shorting the rotation of two really solid defensive players with young legs. They had to lean heavily on old legs. Pop has made some decisions outside of 14' that have left me scratching my head.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I've been saying they need to do this on here and on twitter. It's their only hope vs. HOU and GS. They have to implement lineups of Kawhi, Manu, Green, Simmons or Anderson, Dedmon or LA. Or Kawhi, Simmons, Green, LA, Dedmon, ect.

But can they generate enough offense you think? Screw Parker but Mills can sometimes keep the defense honest even tough his own defense leaves a lot to be desired.

[spursistan]

The guards were horrible, with the exception of Simmons. He had 8 points, 4 boards, and 4 AST, on 50% shooting and no TO's. For a marginal NBA player, that's a decent outing. I'd take that from him every single game.

But its not just the guard's playmaking, even though that was just about non-existent. I remember quite a few plays where Pau was standing out near the 3P line holding the ball, and nobody could even come open for him to pass to. Not only were they moving in slow motion, they weren't making hard cuts. Basically they were jogging around like they don't give a . Either that, or they just don't have the foot speed to get it done. I'm not sure which is worse.

I've been saying since preseason that they are a second round exit. I'm starting to wonder if I was being too optimistic. I know the Clippers were clawing for home court in the first round, and the game didn't mean anything to the Spurs. But I hate it when they go into the playoffs playing like . I hope they pick it up a notch for the playoffs, but all the other playoff teams are going to be trying to do the same thing.

At least Pop recognized the lack of effort and will try to get the players intensity back....No rest for the un-weary..