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    Rest Parker. Rest Mills.

    Let's see if Murray can provide us with something.

    Tonorrow is a must win game for Utah of they want a chance at home court advatange.

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    Thanks for posting - I hope you're right. So much so that I'm not even going to give you about your sources.

    I really, really hate that he missed all these games. Still, he almost HAS to be better than Forbes, even coming back and not being in game shape. I would LOVE for him to be the X-factor in the postseason.

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    Sounds good.

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    FYI - Pop already said they are not resting anyone. At least not in the context of not suiting up. Secondly, you have to be very careful giving Murray a full game coming off a very serious groin injury.

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    Thanks for posting - I hope you're right. So much so that I'm not even going to give you about your sources.

    I really, really hate that he missed all these games. Still, he almost HAS to be better than Forbes, even coming back and not being in game shape. I would LOVE for him to be the X-factor in the postseason.
    It was posted on Twitter a while ago that Murray was not listed on the injury report FYI so that is where it's from.

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    It was posted on Twitter a while ago that Murray was not listed on the injury report FYI so that is where it's from.

    Well that's a source... right?

    Seriously, I would really like to see the young guy have some good run in the playoffs. I just don't have the confidence that you do in the Spurs' longevity in the postseason. But it would make it a lot better for me if we witness the dawn of a new day at PG. He doesn't have to look like an All Star - just hold his own.

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    Well, I'm 99% Murray doesn't see a second in the playoffs unless its garbage time. I know people hate TP now, but that does not make Murray automatically the answer. Especially not this year.

    Will he get more opportunity next season to PROVE he can get minutes? Most likely. Especially if he takes this off season seriously. But just putting him in over TP doesn't mean things improve and I dont think everyone grasps that concept.

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    Well, I'm 99% Murray doesn't see a second in the playoffs unless its garbage time. I know people hate TP now, but that does not make Murray automatically the answer. Especially not this year.
    I hope you're wrong

    Spurs really need a ball handling guard who can penetrate. I think you're correct but... I hope we're wrong.

    SL offense can't get a defense rotating to save their lives... unless its Kawhi and then you're kicking the ball out to non-threatening guards. Very off-topic, but when Tony/Danny gets the kickout they are so slow in making a move that it always gives the defense a chance to recover, very annoying.

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    Well, I'm 99% Murray doesn't see a second in the playoffs unless its garbage time. I know people hate TP now, but that does not make Murray automatically the answer. Especially not this year.

    Will he get more opportunity next season to PROVE he can get minutes? Most likely. Especially if he takes this off season seriously. But just putting him in over TP doesn't mean things improve and I dont think everyone grasps that concept.

    Meh. Maybe you're right. But just to give the other two a blow? Or to try and inject come energy in a game where the Spurs just can't get over the hump? I guess that means 50 year-old Manu is it?

    I sure as don't see how Bryn Forbes can get minutes. Tony or Patty tweaks an ankle or something, I hope Pop rolls the dice on Murray. Forbes looks like a damn deer in the headlights, whenever anyone steps in front of him. My opinion, Patty and Forbes are both undersized 2-guards.

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    Look at it this way: Murray was not really playing when TP/Mills/Manu were active in the regular season. He then got injured for a longtime and missed crucial practice & game development time. Playoffs are usually not the testing grounds.

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    Look at it this way: Murray was not really playing when TP/Mills/Manu were active in the regular season. He then got injured for a longtime and missed crucial practice & game development time. Playoffs are usually not the testing grounds.

    You understand that I've been saying since the preseason that the Spurs were too weak at the point to go deep into the playoffs. I guess I can't see through any other lens. In an ideal world, both back up PG's wouldn't be undersized 2 guards. I'd roll the dice on a kid who COULD play the point. But you're probably right - Pop won't. I'd be surprised if you aren't right.

    But if they call me up to fill in for Pop, we're going to test Murray out in the playoffs. Count on it.

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    He's part of the Spurs future. Would rather throw him out there and see what he can do than to see what Parker can't do yet again.

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    Playoffs are usually not the testing grounds.
    That's true, although I think the consensus here is that even if Murray played poorly it's not a big change in the production we're getting with Tony. (Poorly - as in missing shots/not being in the position he should be.... not poorly as in a complete turd being laid on the floor)

    Dijon would probably play like a rookie, but does his strengths, which are the spurs SL weakness, offset that?

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    Fake news.

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    He's part of the Spurs future. Would rather throw him out there and see what he can do than to see what Parker can't do yet again.
    This. I'd give Murray a few minutes in the early games and see whether he can step up to the pressure. It's not like Parker is going to do . I don't think I have seen a Spurs player go downhill at the rate Parker has since Steve Smith or Paul Pressey.

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    This. I'd give Murray a few minutes in the early games and see whether he can step up to the pressure. It's not like Parker is going to do . I don't think I have seen a Spurs player go downhill at the rate Parker has since Steve Smith or Paul Pressey.

    You said it shorter and better, but that's pretty much it.

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    He's part of the Spurs future. Would rather throw him out there and see what he can do than to see what Parker can't do yet again.
    There's no guarantee a late first round pick has any future in the NBA tbh, much less the Spurs tbh.

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    He's not seeing the floor in the playoffs so it doesn't really matter.

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    Thank you atheists.
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    Well, I'm 99% Murray doesn't see a second in the playoffs unless its garbage time.
    Yeah, because every team tends to shorten rotations in the playoffs, and the Spurs regularly go 12 deep...and Murray is like the 11th man when healthy. The Spurs will typically run 9 or 10 guys per game in the playoffs.

    I could see this being an exception, though, when you consider the lack of a true backup PG (Mills being more of a shooting specialist).

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    Look at it this way: Murray was not really playing when TP/Mills/Manu were active in the regular season. He then got injured for a longtime and missed crucial practice & game development time. Playoffs are usually not the testing grounds.
    You're forgetting what kind of mad scientist coach we have. Last time in the playoffs against Memphis (2011) it was Bonner and Blair together. I'm sort of half expecting Forbes and Anderson to see serious crunch time minutes this playoffs.

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    He's part of the Spurs future. Would rather throw him out there and see what he can do than to see what Parker can't do yet again.
    Exactly, Parker is so bad right now that giving Murray a chance is a good thing, he could have little minutes during the first games vs Memphis to see what happens.

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    Yeah, because every team tends to shorten rotations in the playoffs, and the Spurs regularly go 12 deep...and Murray is like the 11th man when healthy. The Spurs will typically run 9 or 10 guys per game in the playoffs.

    I could see this being an exception, though, when you consider the lack of a true backup PG (Mills being more of a shooting specialist).
    Exception: 2003 Steve Kerr providing Championship pursuit saving minutes.

    Of course it took an injury for CIA Cementhead to put Kerr in but.....

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    It was posted on Twitter a while ago that Murray was not listed on the injury report FYI so that is where it's from.
    Exactly.

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    Well, I'm 99% Murray doesn't see a second in the playoffs unless its garbage time. I know people hate TP now, but that does not make Murray automatically the answer. Especially not this year.

    Will he get more opportunity next season to PROVE he can get minutes? Most likely. Especially if he takes this off season seriously. But just putting him in over TP doesn't mean things improve and I dont think everyone grasps that concept.
    As much as I would have loved to see Murray developed as a wildcard to throw at some teams when we need energy and length, he is unlikely to see the floor much in these playoffs.

    Unless Pop has gone completely CIA and Murray has been just fine and being trained to electrify the world out of nowhere! So since that didn't happen...you're right.

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