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What does that have to do with anything being a sport?
I think its funny that racing is listed first in that DMC list. I dont know in how many back and forth I've been defending racing as a sport.
People have this thing where if they dont like a sport, well it must not be a sport then.
What does that have to do with anything being a sport?
I dislike both soccer and baseball, but they're both obviously sports. I don't care for tennis, but it's a sport.I think its funny that racing is listed first in that DMC list. I dont know in how many back and forth I've been defending racing as a sport.
People have this thing where if they dont like a sport, well it must not be a sport then.
Golf enters a gray area imo, along the lines of e-sports. Both are obviously challenging, require skill and years of commitment/practice, and muscle memory.
Basketball and football aren't listed either
You're swinging a stick at a ball. Seems sporty.
Same can be said about billiards.
even pinball
Not even close to the sameSame can be said about billiards.
Then they're sports.
My simple definition of what differentiates sports from games is if physical execution is just as important as strategic/tactical execution (indeed, some sports are more purely physical [sprinting, shotput, etc] while others balance strategy/tactics with execution, like boxing. Chess is obviously a game because a player doesn't gain any kind of advantage moving his chess pieces more "athletically" than his opponent. E-Sports, as much as I hate them, are sports because if you can't physically execute mouse movements, button presses with a high degree of precision and timing, you'll always lose, no matter how good your gameplan is.
Again, here comes the "running and jumping" around bias. I would say that developing a golf swing would take many, many more hours of PHYSICAL practice than developing the needed skills to be a wide receiver. Football isn't really all that demanding from an individual skill set perspective outside of the QB. We see NFL teams constantly sign "raw" athletes from track-and-field in hopes of developing them into something. Or late comers who are super athletic that play football for the first time in high school or college and become good players (Menelik Watson).but let me guess, you'll have some long drawn out calculations about how phil mickelson walking hole to hole is faster than randy moss sprinting or some
That said, I don't put e-sports on the same level of physical demand as "real" sports, but it's a sport, even though it's at the bottom of the totem pole.
A) definitions aren't subjective so your opinion doesn't count.
B)
Philo isn't a sport either.
It's clear that I don't agree with that definition. And gray area makes it arguable, and I've taken a specific side in the argument.A) definitions aren't subjective so your opinion doesn't count.
B)
Philo isn't a sport either.
You're a tool.
Again, and where were you with your dictionary for the past few years where posters were calling baseball/soccer "not a sport." Perhaps you have an obsession with my posts
Of course there's a hierarchy of preferred sports for each person, however sports are sports, and there's no gradient involved in whether or not they are sports. It's like saying a basketball is more of a ball than a baseball. You might like one better, but saying "playing ball is really just playing basketball" is just senseless.
A: it's not a sport
B: It could be a sport (gray area)
Clearly you've taken a side.
You disagree with Webster's dictionary. Shocking, Philo.
A) I think it's not a sport
B) I think you can make an argument otherwise. I'd just disagree with it
Tool
Golf
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Golf is a club and ball sport in which players use various clubs to hit balls into a series of holes on a course in as few strokes as possible.
Golf, unlike most ball games, cannot and does not utilize a standardized playing area. The game is played on a course with an arranged progression of 18 holes. Each hole on the course must contain a tee box to start from, and a putting green containing the actual hole or cup (4.25 inches in width). There are other standard forms of terrain in between, such as the fairway, rough (long grass), sand traps, and hazards (water, rocks, fescue) but each hole on a course is unique in its specific layout and arrangement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf
All that money you spent on your education wasted. tsk tsk
Yes I'm entirely aware that golf is traditionally defined as a sport. Posting more definitions isn't making any different point.
Argument from motive is a fallacious argument, Philo. Choice-support bias is weighing you down.
It's only fallacious if I'm using that to discredit your argument. I'm not. I'm using it to demonstrate your obsession and hypocrisy in general.
You're becoming more and more like fuzzy. Sad!
That's a lot of yapping to say "I was wrong".
No. I still don't consider golf a sport. That hasn't changed. You're just going full philo because yet again your "no stance" narrative is shooting blanks.
No. I still don't consider golf a sport. That hasn't changed. You're just going full philo because yet again your "no stance
Like it's based on opinion.
You tried to take a stance and got shut down.
Back to the shadows for you, where you can launch innuendo safely.
Yes. My opinion is, in fact, based on opinion. Mind blowing revelation.
Golf isn't a sport, despite it being traditionally classified as such.
So Philo has bucked the long accepted definition of "sport" in favor of his own?
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