Tony Parker

[dabom]

Let's bench Patty.

[dabom]

If neither TP nor Mills are playing well on a particular game I hope Pop plays another option (Murray, Manu at PG, even Kyle or Simmons), but if I really have to choose between bad Mills and bad TP, Patty should get the nod, if only because of spacing. That's one thing Mills will always provide over Tony. And no, in the real current World that we are living right now, a bad TP doesn't provide any of the things dpg is saying.

[DPG21920]

Let's bench Patty.

No one is saying that. But if Mills isn't playing well you can't just give him minutes because TP is not playing well. Hopefully, at least 1 of TP/Mills/Manu is playing well on a given night (like actually scoring points because Kawhi/LMA can't score them all).

Mills should get a chance every game, but if he's not playing well and neither is TP, go to Manu for longer stretches and if he's not playing well, go to different lineups etc..

[gambit1990]

If neither TP nor Mills are playing well on a particular game I hope Pop plays another option (Murray, Manu at PG, even Kyle or Simmons), but if I really have to choose between bad Mills and bad TP, Patty should get the nod, if only because of spacing. That's one thing Mills will always provide over Tony. And no, in the real current World that we are living right now, a bad TP doesn't provide any of the things dpg is saying.

[DAF86]

That is simply not true. Look at the Conley vs TP and Conley vs Mills numbers I posted. TP's defense of Conley is better than non-shooting Mills. It just is.

I agree with you though. I would like to see Pop get creative in the event TP stops being so good. Mills and Manu are not the answer at their current levels of play so he will have to try new things and hopefully get contributions from many people.

Playing any of TP or Patty for defensive porpuses.

You do realize that Danny will be the one guarding Conley when the chips are down, right? You saying bad TP should play over bad Patty to matchup with Conley is irrelevant.

[DPG21920]

Playing any of TP or Patty for defensive porpuses.

You do realize that Danny will be the one guarding Conley when the chips are down, right? You saying bad TP should play over bad Patty to matchup with Conley is irrelevant.

Except when it's not. If you are talking about to end games only? Ok. Fair point. But basketball is long game.

[Brazil]

Patty closes out games. This is "your best 5 vs my best 5" time. Clearly he is better even if he shoots 0-8.

The fact that Mills close out games has nothing to do with defense tho

Patty closes games because he spreads the floor with his 3 pts shooting and because Kawhi runs defense anyway... not really because best 5 vs best 5 tbh.. He is closing out games he is better at gtfo of Kawhi way and create space, nothing to do with with him being a better defender

but again those topics have nothing to do what is being discussed here

[Brazil]

nice deflection tho

[Brazil]

If neither TP nor Mills are playing well on a particular game I hope Pop plays another option (Murray, Manu at PG, even Kyle or Simmons), but if I really have to choose between bad Mills and bad TP, Patty should get the nod, if only because of spacing. That's one thing Mills will always provide over Tony.

exactly

[dabom]

The fact that Mills close out games has nothing to do with defense tho

Patty closes games because he spreads the floor with his 3 pts shooting and because Kawhi runs defense anyway... not really because best 5 vs best 5 tbh.. He is closing out games he is better at gtfo of Kawhi way and create space, nothing to do with with him being a better defender

but again those topics have nothing to do what is being discussed here

I don't think you understand what best 5 means. I'll let that sink in for you.

[Brazil]

I don't think you understand what best 5 means. I'll let that sink in for you.

[DAF86]

Except when it's not. If you are talking about to end games only? Ok. Fair point. But basketball is long game.

Yeah, I'm talking about end of games. Pop isn't going to play anyone else but Tony or Mills at PG on the middle of 1sr and 2nd quarters, tbh.

[gambit1990]

"tony makes la better"... game 2: la takes 8 shots, tony takes 14.

[Seventyniner]

Nice find. I think Nono is right, but in different context. I think the rest isn't about playing frequency like you have shown, but more about longer-term fatigue in stretches and his inability to stay healthy enough for long periods.

The numbers are counterintuitive but your explanation makes sense. Tony tends to pick up nagging injuries when he gets fatigued (over the course of a few weeks, not within a game) and those seem to have a disproportionally detrimental effect on him.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, I'm talking about end of games. Pop isn't going to play anyone else but Tony or Mills at PG on the middle of 1sr and 2nd quarters, tbh.

I think he should try if things aren't going well. I was agreeing with your point. Against better teams, can't afford to fall behind too much too often.

[DPG21920]

"tony makes la better"... game 2: la takes 8 shots, tony takes 14.

Do we need the post LA's shooting numbers with TP compared to Mills ?

[ElNono]

It was a really physical game especially for the starters. They were having to work hard through a ton of contact.

agreed

[gambit1990]

Do we need the post LA's shooting numbers with TP compared to Mills ?

post the numbers for the series.

does tony have 1 assist to lma on the series yet? i know tony couldn't have assisted la more than three times over the past two games.

[DPG21920]

post the numbers for the series.

does tony have 1 assist to lma on the series yet? i know tony couldn't have assisted la more than three times over the past two games.

You really want to compare TP's numbers to Mills for just these 2 games ?

[dabom]

Can someone tell me the team porker could join and make.better?

[dabom]

Is there an ideal lineup?

[I. Hustle]

Can someone tell me the team porker could join and make.better?

Can someone tell me who we could REALISTICALLY get to replace him to make us better?

[DPG21920]

Can someone tell me who we could REALISTICALLY get to replace him to make us better?

Not Mills or Manu or Simmons or Forbes or Murray this year.

[Mikeanaro]

Can someone tell me who we could REALISTICALLY get to replace him to make us better?

Isaiah Thomas, Choke Paul, Curry, if you throw a ton of money to them it would be realistic.

[DPG21920]

TP vs MEM in Playoffs:

PER: 25 / PPG: 16.5 / REB: 2.5 / AST: 1.5 / TO: 1 / FG% 52% / FT% None Taken / 3PT% 71%

Mills vs MEM in Playoffs:

PER: 3.3 / PPG: 7 / REB: 1.5 / AST: 1.5 / TO: 2 / FG% 31% / FT% 100% / 3PT% 37%

Manu v MEM in Playoffs:

PER: 3 / PPG: 0 / REB: 3.5 / AST: 2.5 / TO: 2 / FG% 0% / FT% None Taken / 3PT% 0%