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    There was one possession where the Thunder got a steal late in the game and had an opportunity to close within 3 points i believe. And of course they throw it straight to Westbrook. He misses, then they get an offensive rebound and there was definitely a few players that were open that could have taken a shot but they just give it back to westbrook and of course he aint giving it back. Takes another shot...clank.

    Reminds me of the last few years the Lakers had with Kobe.

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    Westbrick

    This series just might cost him the MVP.

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    Westbrick

    This series just might cost him the MVP.
    Votes are already in...playoffs won't have any effect on voting.

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    Votes are already in...playoffs won't have any effect on voting.
    Are they? He's lucky if so.

    Still, Westbrick possibly winning MVP

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    Are they? He's lucky if so.

    Still, Westbrick possibly winning MVP
    I don't think I've found more than one person at work who agrees with me he shouldn't get the MVP.

    Triples doubles, and 6th place in the West without KD and with what is considered no help are the main arguments, along with the amount of points and every game he has won with his heroics.

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    I don't think I've found more than one person at work who agrees with me he shouldn't get the MVP.

    Triples doubles, and 6th place in the West without KD and with what is considered no help are the main arguments, along with the amount of points and every game he has won with his heroics.
    On ESPN today, I saw a few talking heads argue that Harden is looking more valuable than Russ right now. One guy was saying, "Why can't he get his teammates involved like Harden does?" They're starting to catch on.

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    of course Harden 34% usage with 2 reb short of a triple double is more valuable than westchimp 42% usage triple doub

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    OKC is screwed -- they can't live with Westbrook, they can't live without him. Either way, they can't win big.

    Franchises usually get one seminal make-or-break moment to determine their ultimate fate.

    With Orlando, it was dumping Ben Wallace for Grant Hill (and patting their back about cap space brilliance the whole way).

    With OKC, it was letting Harden walk.

    Game, set, match.
    That's a pretty valid point. If they had kept Harden and gotten someone good for Westbrook? They'd probably still have Durant, and they might have a banner in the rafters.
    They didn't need to even break the 3 of them up. Harden said he didn't have a problem coming in off the bench. Unless he's changed his opinion, he said it wasn't about coming in off the bench. He was OK with that. I just think he wanted to be maxed out, money wise.

    I mean, trading him and getting Kevin Martin out of his who left shortly after anyway. That now looks like one of the worst trades in years. I can't remember, what pick did they get? Was it the one they used on Adams? Even if they got Adams out of it, it was still a bad trade.
    All valid points. I think where OKC went wrong was with Ibaka.

    They had enough money to max (or almost max) 3 players. They knew they had to choose and they threw money at Ibaka over Harden. At the time it felt like it made sense because they had shooters in Westbrook and Durant, and Ibaka gave them size and physicality.

    I suppose they thought they could use him against the Spurs (weak against athletic frontcourts) and to match up against LeBron and they would have enough shooting between the other two to basically let harden walk (they got virtually nothing in return iirc). If they had let Ibaka walk and paid harden instead they would have a starting lineup with Durant and Westbrook and harden coming off the bench. Basically all game long they'd have two of them on the floor and they would probably have multiple trips to the finals and at least one banner.

    They would have had to use scraps to fill out the roster but a few well placed vet minimums with those 3 would have been an insane roster.

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    Because it is perceived as if he HAD to chuck because his team is trash.
    OKC players this season ranked by FG%


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    All valid points. I think where OKC went wrong was with Ibaka.

    They had enough money to max (or almost max) 3 players. They knew they had to choose and they threw money at Ibaka over Harden. At the time it felt like it made sense because they had shooters in Westbrook and Durant, and Ibaka gave them size and physicality.

    I suppose they thought they could use him against the Spurs (weak against athletic frontcourts) and to match up against LeBron and they would have enough shooting between the other two to basically let harden walk (they got virtually nothing in return iirc). If they had let Ibaka walk and paid harden instead they would have a starting lineup with Durant and Westbrook and harden coming off the bench. Basically all game long they'd have two of them on the floor and they would probably have multiple trips to the finals and at least one banner.

    They would have had to use scraps to fill out the roster but a few well placed vet minimums with those 3 would have been an insane roster.
    Yeah, I think they did pick Ibaka over Westbrook, but I also think they dumped Harden because he didn't have a great finals against the Heat. He played poorly in that series. I'm not sure why he was so great against the Spurs and then bad against the Heat. Maybe the pressure of the finals got to him? I assume it did. I'm pretty sure the owners didn't want to pay him max because of that finals series (Westbrook stepped up, Harden didn't), but they still should have as he was a huge key in the series against the Spurs for them. They should have given him another chance to redeem himself and then traded him if they weren't happy with his performance. Either way you look at it, they ed up.

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    Yep.

    Basically that applies to Kobe too without the help of prime Shaq / Gasol. Inefficiency is lost in a haze of sheer gross numbers, I guess.
    Media idiots.

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    Didn't get to watch the first 2 games, tbh..I heard that he had a 50-point triple-double, though, I received a barrage of texts about it..unreal, historic numbers..

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    Didn't get to watch the first 2 games, tbh..I heard that he had a 50-point triple-double, though, I received a barrage of texts about it..unreal, historic numbers..


    10-28 shooting in a pivotal playoff game.

    Westbrick 35% for the game

    The rest of the Thunder: 57%



    Please keep parroting this narrative about how Westbrick has no help and has to do it all.

    In a game that comes down to 4 points, Westbrick misses 18 shots.

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    10-28 shooting in a pivotal playoff game.

    Westbrick 35% for the game

    The rest of the Thunder: 57%



    Please keep parroting this narrative about how Westbrick has no help and has to do it all.

    In a game that comes down to 4 points, Westbrick misses 18 shots.
    i assume you didn't watch the game. the rockets carried harden the way okc could never carry westbrook.

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    Westbrick update:

    44-118 for the series. 37%.

    Westbrook has missed 74 ing shots in this series.

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    i assume you didn't watch the game. the rockets carried harden the way okc could never carry westbrook.
    4 point game and Westbrook missed 18 shots. Okay bro. I guess I wasn't watching when Westbrook shot multiple 3 pointers from 4 feet behind the 3 point line. Or when he tried to draw a foul and airballed the 3 when the defender didn't give his pussy ass the contact.

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    Westbrick update:

    44-118 for the series. 37%.

    Westbrook has missed 74 ing shots in this series.
    What you mean? HE SCORED A TRIPLE DOUBLE!

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    What you mean? HE SCORED A TRIPLE DOUBLE!
    According to every Thunder fan, the Thunder are unbeatable as long as their bigs get the out of the way to make sure their point guard gets rebounds. Because as we all know, ensuring the shortest player on the court gets the rebound is the key to winning playoff games.

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    the rockets carried harden the way okc could never carry westbrook.

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    According to every Thunder fan, the Thunder are unbeatable as long as their bigs get the out of the way to make sure their point guard gets rebounds. Because as we all know, ensuring the shortest player on the court gets the rebound is the key to winning playoff games.
    Lol They are amazing, first a couple years ago they were too good for the average human eye thats why they got so many calls when Durbeta was there, and now this, he had his 10 rebounds in the first half, HE IS EVERYWHERE! MVP! MVP!

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    Westbrick, with "brick" being they key word. As I said during the off-season, my pitch to KD would have had myself walking into the meeting with a brick in my hand and throwing it on the table. I would have started by saying, in Australia, what we call you (referring to KD) is a brickie's labourer. You keep passing that ball (brick) to Westbrook and he'll keep throwing up the bricks. You want to build a house, stay in OKC, you want to win a Championship, come to SA.

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    "but but but.... Westbrook doesn't have any help so it's okay to go 2-11 in the 4th a game after shooting 4-18 in the 4th."

    Such a clutch player.

    It's almost like I've said all along that Westbrook will shoot you out of at least two playoff games in the series because he has no ability to take good shots in crunch time. We've seen it every single year, and it just happened again.

    Westbrook

    muh stats

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    Let's see if Harlem gets a "barrage of texts" tonight too

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    Hes a frustrating player tbh, love his drive but he needs to slow it down most of the time. In the 4th he always just goes full hero mode.

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