You can use this thread to apologize to Tony Parker.

[Robz4000]

Meh, I guess against the Mavs.

He was awful the first six games of that series. Thankfully he came through in Game 7 but if he plays an average series the Spurs win in 5. He was pretty good in the Portland series and Games 1, 2, and 5 against OKC though.

[SASdynasty!]

I called him 2nd option in a 5+ page thread. You wanted him to be a bench guy. Don't act high now.

Hahaha I think you might be getting me confused with someone else.

[PopTheGOAT]

This is true. It's unfair to expect him to keep this up. I'm hoping he and Paddy can combine for 15-20 PPG the rest of the way, I think that would be much more realistic.

I entered the playoffs with the mindset that we would be eliminated by GS in the WCF. If he can somehow continue to average 16ppg and Aldridge can at least play how he was in the regular season, I might change my tune. I'd give us a fighting chance in that case.

I will always watch and hope for the best, but I'd prefer my hope to be justified

[Cry Havoc]

Y'all got to watch a top 20 PG of all time who stayed on your team for his entire career and helped them win 4 championships and you spent that entire time ing about him. What a waste of energy.

ing truth.

[RodNIc91]

Great, unexpected series by HOTS. Dude deserves to bang every teammate's significant other tonight, no doubt about it.

Let's not get carried away though. You aren't always right. You've been dead wrong about Kawhi for example.

[Nathan89]

It's one thing to talk about ty Parker. It's another to not recognize that he's the only guard capable of bringing what the Spurs need. The helmet crew doesn't recognize that.

[UZER]

I'm not a Parker hater. But he sucked so bad for much of the year that the criticism was warranted, though not really his fault, just old and worn.

He has stepped into a time machine this series. Props to his for his play. Much needed help for Kawhi.

[DarrinS]

Lol, the Parker krew coming at me. I'll take it.

[TheRemix]

Waiting for his rating in 2k to go up from 77..

[FkLA]

You misinterpret "antiquated" as ineffective. I never said Kawhi's offense style isn't effective. I said it won't be able to keep pace with players/offenses that are 3 pointer/drive centric.

At one point, Kawhi was shooting 100% from the midrange, and might be at about 80% for the series. That's simply unsustainable. All little Wardell has to do to be more efficient than Kawhi shooting something like 60% from the midrange (which would be historic) is shoot 34% from 3.

I don't think you appreciate the hurdle that is.

But if Kawhi manages it, it'll be one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of the series outcome. I wouldn't bet on it, though, especially considering the fact the Warriors will be allowed to get away with murder on defense. He won't get to the line over 10 times in too many matchups against them.

Your math is wrong. Wardell would have to shoot 40%, which he's capable of doing but it's tougher than 34%. I also don't get why you always act like Kawhi only shoots midrange and the other guys only shoot 3s during these comparisons. Kawhi is a well-rounded offensive player. You didn't want to you use his PPS against '16 MEM bc of their injuries (understandable) but pretty sure he eclipsed it this year and was higher than anything Wardell ever put up when the Warriors faced them.

[FkLA]

Our hero.

[tenbeersbold]

Tony's French and English is his second language that's what most of it is regarding fan hate.
Spend some time in the EU and you get used
to guys like him,IE,dudes who aren't over friendly/communicative and aren't really comfortable conversing in English.
Besides all Western Europeans think Americans talk too much and are overly emotional, just a cultural difference
Sports fans afire overly emotional chatter boxes, like Many,they crave that connection. TP is never gonna give you that

[SAGirl]

Only thing the team can do is hope their guys are enough. Would be nice for Manu to come back too. I disagree that Parker needs to be this guy every series. More consistent D and move even scoring for guys like Green, Manu, Lee and Pau would make a huge difference.

He needed to be this guy this series. Pau Ofer and atrocious frankly tonight and he was inefficient in other games if I remember correctly, he's been off lately...
Manu 0fer on 4 games this series.. minutes cut in 2 of them and only 4 points in a 3 he was fouled in this one. <--fluky.
Danny is streaky. He had some games he wasn't impactful after starting the series with a bang.
Lee .. ehh.. In a championship team I suspect he's not playing this many minutes. Can't fault him when Pau is being horrible out there and even with his flaws has looked better than Pau. DAvis finally got playing time and hopefully Dedmon starts to come out of the doghouse.

I have my issues with Pop ... but this is what he does. He will go to his veterans. Hopefully for next round, Pau steps up more, and others as you said. But for this series I think he did what needed to be done.

[DarrinS]

Let's revisit this thread in subsequent playoffs rounds.

[SAGirl]

Let's revisit this thread in subsequent playoffs rounds.

Spurs wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round if he didn't play like this.
No matter what happens next, he was great this series.

[pgardn]

He was awful the first six games of that series. Thankfully he came through in Game 7 but if he plays an average series the Spurs win in 5. He was pretty good in the Portland series and Games 1, 2, and 5 against OKC though.

We don't win a championship in 2014 without him bud.
Its that simple. We needed a bunch of good performances by more than Parker. Don't be a fool.
Team.

[SASdynasty!]

He was awful the first six games of that series. Thankfully he came through in Game 7 but if he plays an average series the Spurs win in 5. He was pretty good in the Portland series and Games 1, 2, and 5 against OKC though.

Tony was awful in the first six games of the Mavs series?

Game 1: 21/6 on 56%
Game 2: 12/3 on 50%
Game 3: 19/6 on 50%
Game 4: 10/3 on 36%
Game 5: 23/5 on 39%
Game 6: 22/6 on 44%
Game 7: 32/4 on 58%

Parker was good most of that entire series.

[DarrinS]

Spurs wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round if he didn't play like this.
No matter what happens next, he was great this series.

I agree.

[gambit1990]

was never worried about beating the grizzlies. had the spurs in 6. had the spurs winning by 12+ in game 5 (they won by 13).

it's great tony made jumpers. not so impressed by his scoring in the paint bc memphis doesn't have shot blockers.

we advance, but don't get carried away.

i'd still rather he come off the bench (not as a punishment, as a scoring punch). spurs get further with a strong kawhi/la two man game.

i see his effectiveness dipping a lot.

[Robz4000]

Tony was awful in the first six games of the Mavs series?

Game 1: 21/6 on 56%
Game 2: 12/3 on 50%
Game 3: 19/6 on 50%
Game 4: 10/3 on 36%
Game 5: 23/5 on 39%
Game 6: 22/6 on 44%
Game 7: 32/4 on 58%

Parker was good most of that entire series.

those are awful stats, especially when you consider he was the first option. Manu and Splitter saved the Spurs in that series.

[dabom]

So many ing losers crying in here. Taking notes.

[spurraider21]

I'll be honest -- I don't like TP, but, at the end of the day, I'm a fan of the team. He played fantastic.

freedom fries

[pgardn]

Let's revisit this thread in subsequent playoffs rounds.

We should.

This series still shows we are weak at guard.

Tony
Manu
Danny
Patty

The above is far from stellar.

Then if necessary.
Simmons
Kyle

If we win the West I will be in shock.

But we took the first step against a team very hard to look good against.

[midnightpulp]

Your math is wrong. Wardell would have to shoot 40%, which he's capable of doing but it's tougher than 34%. I also don't get why you always act like Kawhi only shoots midrange and the other guys only shoot 3s during these comparisons. Kawhi is a well-rounded offensive player. You didn't want to you use his PPS against '16 MEM bc of their injuries (understandable) but pretty sure he eclipsed it this year and was higher than anything Wardell ever put up when the Warriors faced them.

Yeah, you're right. For some reason I was comparing 4-12 to 6-10 in my head. Brain lapse.

Still a huge task. The very best mid-range shooters in history typically shoot around 43-47%.

I know Kawhi does more than shoot mid-range. In the "antiquated" thread, I think I said all I would like him to do is shave off 3 attempts from the midrange (I think he averages 10 shots per game from there) and take a couple more 3s and/or drive. I also said he can offset things by getting to the line, which he has. I just don't expect him to get calls against the league's golden child.

Again, this isn't a criticism of Kawhi, but an indictment of the crappy basketball that "works" in the modern game. Can't beat 'em, join 'em. But maybe Kawhi will beat 'em. I just think it's a nigh-impossible task. Memphis isn't Golden State.

[midnightpulp]

was never worried about beating the grizzlies. had the spurs in 6. had the spurs winning by 12+ in game 5 (they won by 13).

it's great tony made jumpers. not so impressed by his scoring in the paint bc memphis doesn't have shot blockers.

we advance, but don't get carried away.

i'd still rather he come off the bench (not as a punishment, as a scoring punch). spurs get further with a strong kawhi/la two man game.

i see his effectiveness dipping a lot.

Patty is supposed to be that "scoring punch," re . And why are you going to with a proven formula? The bench unit as is has insane metrics in all areas. But yeah, let's just throw Parker on the bench because it works in NBA2K