You can use this thread to apologize to Tony Parker.

[pgardn]

those are awful stats, especially when you consider he was the first option. Manu and Splitter saved the Spurs in that series.

1st option.... That's just Fckn stupid. The first option for that team was whatever was working. And there was a lot working for that TEAM.

[SAGirl]

And are often hated by their fans because of it; the Spurs were/are in desperate need of consistent offense from the guard position since Green/Manu/Mills aren't consistent, Murray is young, and Simmons just isn't the answer. Parker's contract has been a hindrance towards getting one while playing as bad as any of the other five guards. Glad he's producing in the playoffs and hope he continues; I said earlier in the year that all this team needed to get to another gear was MVParker, so if he keeps this up he'll more than earn that money.

Now if the rest of the team besides Kawhi could get it together that'd be great...

Frankly... nope.
Tony has brought championships to this team. Look at Manu's legacy contract.
I think it may have been a bad decision to pay 15 mill for Pau GAsol though. That could have been money for a better wing,etc
maybe Pau Gasol makes me eat crow next round and I am fine with that bc that means Spurs advance and the team has more weapons than Tony/Kawhi duo.

[gambit1990]

spurs would've won starting murray.

[Nathan89]

Spurs don't have a chance vs GSW. It doesn't matter what Kawhi does.

[DarrinS]

We should.

This series still shows we are weak at guard.

Tony
Manu
Danny
Patty

The above is far from stellar.

Then if necessary.
Simmons
Kyle

If we win the West I will be in shock.

But we took the first step against a team very hard to look good against.

hard to argue with that. Houston, like GS, has weak interior, but will just kill you with perimeter shots.

[SAGirl]

Do I need to apologize when I specifically called for a Tony Parker 2nd option team in a 5+ page thread?

that you did. that you did indeed.

[midnightpulp]

spurs would've won starting murray.

Murray scoring 27 on 11-14 on the road in Memphis.

Sure thing.

Just take the loss and eat your in' crow. You were wrong (you always are, should you be used to being humbled by now, so I don't understand why this is so hard for you).

[gambit1990]

Patty is supposed to be that "scoring punch," re . And why are you going to with a proven formula? The bench unit as is has insane metrics in all areas. But yeah, let's just throw Parker on the bench because it works in NBA2K

patty is a scoring punch. my point was:

spurs get further with a strong kawhi/la two man game.

patty/murray starting doesn't get in the way of that.

[Splits]

Murray scoring 27 on 11-14 on the road in Memphis.

Sure thing.

Just take the loss and eat your in' crow. You were wrong (you always are, should you be used to being humbled by now, so I don't understand why this is so hard for you).

[gambit1990]

Murray scoring 27 on 11-14 on the road in Memphis.

Sure thing.

Just take the loss and eat your in' crow. You were wrong (you always are, should you be used to being humbled by now, so I don't understand why this is so hard for you).

i meant on the series.

murray's FG% is probably lower. i bet he would have moved the ball better, average more assists, be able to break down the defense bc he's quicker, has a height advantage over conley, etc.

[Dex]

i meant on the series.

murray's FG% is probably lower. i bet he'd have move the ball better, average more assists, be able to break down the defense bc he's quicker, has a height advantage over conley, etc.

I bet you would.

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. Murray would have gotten eaten alive by the Griz.

[FkLA]

Yeah, you're right. For some reason I was comparing 4-12 to 6-10 in my head. Brain lapse.

Still a huge task. The very best mid-range shooters in history typically shoot around 43-47%.

I know Kawhi does more than shoot mid-range. In the "antiquated" thread, I think I said all I would like him to do is shave off 3 attempts from the midrange (I think he averages 10 shots per game from there) and take a couple more 3s and/or drive. I also said he can offset things by getting to the line, which he has. I just don't expect him to get calls against the league's golden child.

Again, this isn't a criticism of Kawhi, but an indictment of the crappy basketball that "works" in the modern game. Can't beat 'em, join 'em. But maybe Kawhi will beat 'em. I just think it's a nigh-impossible task. Memphis isn't Golden State.

It is a tall task and I wouldn't bet on it. I don't agree with the notion that Kawhi's offensive style would have anything to do with them falling short against them though. They'll likely fall short because they're a flawed team and GS is really good and really talented--not because of Kawhi's midrange.

[midnightpulp]

patty is a scoring punch. my point was:

patty/murray starting doesn't get in the way of that.

Memphis has the front line to bother LMA. Kawhi/LMA weren't going to be enough this series, since it was unlikely that LMA would have a big scoring impact. So no, Spurs would not have gotten further by centering everything around Kawhi/LMA while Parker is relegated to being a spot up player/on the bench. Parker was the difference maker this series. You're just going to have to accept it.

Next series, things will be different. Houston has no legit bigs, so the Kawhi/LMA will be the tip of the spear.

[Cry Havoc]

So many ing losers crying in here. Taking notes.

As if you need to take notes on being a loser or crying.

[dabom]

As if you need to take notes on being a loser or crying.

I see reddit is down.

[gambit1990]

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. Murray would have gotten eaten alive by the Griz.

was never worried about beating the grizzlies. had the spurs in 6. had the spurs winning by 12+ in game 5 (they won by 13).

it's great tony made jumpers. not so impressed by his scoring in the paint bc memphis doesn't have shot blockers.

i take murray over tony. you have your opinion, i have mine.

[Mikeanaro]

Porker should apologize for 2015 and 2016, tbh.
On the other hand he´s been very useful, shame on Lamilton the fake secondary weapon.

[Cry Havoc]

I see reddit is down.

I see that you don't have anything to say about the game since Parker just reminded everyone on Spurstalk how clueless you are about the sport of basketball. Most of your little krew is oddly hiding on a night we make it into the 2nd round.

[midnightpulp]

It is a tall task and I wouldn't bet on it. I don't agree with the notion that Kawhi's offensive style would have anything to do with them falling short against them though. They'll likely fall short because they're a flawed team and GS is really good and really talented--not because of Kawhi's midrange.

Of course. They have 3 MVP level players on one team.

That's why if Kawhi manages to outperform Wardell playing his style of game, I'll celebrate it as one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of whether or not the Spurs advance. That said, all things being equal, I would bet on the player (and his team) who takes more 3s than the player who takes more midrange jumpers.

[Dex]

i take murray over tony. you have your opinion, i have mine.

ok, you cling to your unrealistic opinion so that you can try to talk and say "I told you so" if the Spurs don't go all the way.

[dabom]

I see that you don't have anything to say about the game since Parker just reminded everyone on Spurstalk how clueless you are about the sport of basketball. Most of your little krew is oddly hiding on a night we make it into the 2nd round.

Reddit has the most ing vanilla takes in the world.

[FkLA]

Of course. They have 3 MVP level players on one team.

That's why if Kawhi manages to outperform Wardell playing his style of game, I'll celebrate it as one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of whether or not the Spurs advance. That said, all things being equal, I would bet on the player (and his team) who takes more 3s than the player who takes more midrange jumpers.

So would I. Unless the midrange guy's name is Kawhi Leonard.

[dabom]

So would I. Unless the midrange guy's name is Kawhi Leonard.

[SAGirl]

We should.

This series still shows we are weak at guard.

Tony
Manu
Danny
Patty

The above is far from stellar.

Then if necessary.
Simmons
Kyle

If we win the West I will be in shock.

But we took the first step against a team very hard to look good against.

For Simmons and Kyle:
they are a very different topic and I dislike with intensity all the trolling concerning them.
I am indifferent to Simmons, but if you play him Pop: get him rolling. dude should have had at least a couple of cuts to the basket in 8 minutes when he was playing off post players. He hasn't given much. I think he's developed as a ball dominant guard and maybe that is what Pop wants, but he has the tools to be an excellent cutter and off the ball player if he was more active and he wasn't. Some of that has to be on coaching and maybe some has to be given to the lack of court vision and passing skill on Lamarcus. anyways, that is my hot take. If he's not giving more is bc the Spurs don't have him doing more.
Really Kyle played well. You look at his stats and he was both efficient and a positively impactful player for the most part. I am unsure what happens next round and if he doesn't play rest of the way so be it, but he could produce more just isn't given a chance at this point. Pop will live and die with guys putting up 0fers in consecutive games etc... so it is what it is with Pop. I won't say more bc the trolling here is exhausting tbh but if Pop doesn't maximize his roster not much that can be done by these guys if they don't get shot attempts.

[$pursDynasty]

spurs would've won starting murray.

there you are I thought you were mia tonight, how but that head of the snake? That cape was looking good flapping in the air