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    Three Russian cyber arrests, one su ious death, and a new twist in the US election hack

    In the eerie world of international espionage, nothing of late has topped the official US accusation that Russian president Vladimir Putin plotted to put US president Donald Trump in power. Now, the tale has become even more salacious with the reported arrest of three Russian cyber experts, one of whom was perp-walked out of a meeting with a bag over his head, and the su ious death of a former KGB general.

    Russia experts say the episode suggests a possible purge related to the US election hack. In a twist of Kremlinology, others say Putin may only be pretending to have arrested and killed cyber operatives. Or, say still others, neither observation may be true. “Can we really trust Russian news?” asks Dave Aitel, a former analyst with the US National Security Agency, and now CEO of Immunity, a cyber intrusion protection firm.

    The story of the arrests appears to have broken at the Russian newspaper Kommersant on Jan. 25. The paper reported (link in Russian) the arrests of Sergei Mikhailov, who heads the Center for Information Security, an arm of the Russian intelligence agency known by the acronym FSB; and Ruslan Stoyanov, a senior researcher with Kaspersky Lab, the computer security company.
    https://qz.com/898168/three-russian-...election-hack/


    Such a purge is consistent with a cover-up. My guess is that most of those arrested will be released after a while, having been sent a clear message not to talk. (that is the optimistic me, pessimist says there is a good chance they are going to disappear)

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    What authenticity? What has been corroborated besides the Page bit from 2013? Who did Steele pay to gather intel? Were they reliable? What are their credentials?
    You didn't answer my question, yet again.

    Why does his presence in the country have anything to do with the veracity of the report? Did you read the report/dossier at all?

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    Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump
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    That kind of coincidence starts to beg a lot of questions.
    You should have finished the article


    Experts expressed scepticism about the theory.

    “As a rule, people like Gen Yerovinkin don’t tend to die in airport thriller murders,” said Mark Galeotti, an expert on the Russian security services.

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    You didn't answer my question, yet again.

    Why does his presence in the country have anything to do with the veracity of the report? Did you read the report/dossier at all?
    I thought my questions would make it pretty clear why I thought his presence in the country would lend more weight to his dossier. He included golden shower story for s sake

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    You didn't answer my question, yet again.

    Why does his presence in the country have anything to do with the veracity of the report? Did you read the report/dossier at all?
    Your question has now been answered. Your turn.

    What authenticity? What has been corroborated besides the Page bit from 2013? Who did Steele pay to gather intel? Were they reliable? What are their credentials?

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    Meet the nine Russian operatives who have dropped dead during Donald Trump-Russia scandal

    Russia’s Ambassador to the United Nations, Vitaly Churkin, has dropped dead in New York of an apparent heart attack. That may not stand out as su ious on its own, until one considers that he’s the third Russian diplomat to drop dead in the U.S. since the election season began – and the last two were also said to have died of heart attacks despite their skulls both being bashed in. Even more bizarrely, since Russia’s rigging of the election for Donald Trump exploded in scandal, a whopping nine Russian diplomats, businessmen and operatives have mysteriously dropped dead.

    Back in January, a thirty-page dossier was leaked to the public which detailed all the supposed ways in which Russia was blackmailing Trump. Two weeks later Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB General who had helped a former MI6 agent to assemble the dossier, turned up dead in the back of a car in Russia. While it hasn’t been proven, many have suspected that Vladimir Putin had Erovinkin taken out in revenge for Erovinkin’s complicity in exposing Putin’s blackmail scheme. But even more Russian bodies have been dropping.

    Sergei Mikhailov, who was believed to have been a U.S. intelligence asset within the Russian government, was dragged out of a meeting in Russia with a bag over his head and is now almost certainly dead as well.

    Back in January a Ukrainian businessman named Alex Oronov (who was not a Russian but who was born in the Soviet Union) arranged a meeting between Donald Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen and Russian mafia connected former Trump business associate Felix Sater, at the behest of Kremlin-controlled Ukrainian politician Andrey Artemenko. That meeting led to a Ukraine blackmail plan being delivered to Michael Flynn’s office just before he resigned. Shortly after the plot was outed in the New York Times, Oronov died. Artemenko went on to assert that Oronov died as a direct result of the plot being exposed in the media. And as it turned out, Oronov lived in one of Donald Trump’s buildings at the time of his death.

    Mikhail Lesin, a former aide to Vladimir Putin, dropped dead in a Washington DC hotel room. Russia initially floated the claim that he died of a heart attack, but the coroner’s report revealed that his head had been bashed in. Sergey Krivov, an apparent Russian intel agent, was later found dead inside the Russian consulate in New York. Russia also claimed he’d had a heart attack. But in a familiar tune, the coroner later found evidence that his head had been bashed in.


    Back in January, Russian diplomat Andrey Malanin was found dead in his Athens apartment. And we all recall the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, Andrey Karlov, being murdered on live television. Additionally, Russian diplomat Petr Polshikov was found shot to death in Moscow. That adds up to nine bodies now having dropped since the Trump-Russia scandal exploded.

    How many of these nine deaths of Russian diplomats and Russian operatives are connected to the Donald Trump-Russia scandal? That’s not yet clear. Some of the deaths, such as Erovinkin and Mikhailov, have much more strongly demonstrated connections to Trump-Russia than others. But bodies don’t generally drop like this without a reason. How many of his own people has Vladimir Putin now eliminated while trying to cover up the Trump-Russia scandal
    People die all the time. In any given population, you should expect some mortality.

    That said, this is consistent with a serious purge, as would be expected if the FSB realized that someone was talking.

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    Meet the nine Russian operatives who have dropped dead during Donald Trump-Russia scandal



    People die all the time. In any given population, you should expect some mortality.

    That said, this is consistent with a serious purge, as would be expected if the FSB realized that someone was talking.
    Russian version of Seth Rich and Shawn Lucas

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    I thought my questions would make it pretty clear why I thought his presence in the country would lend more weight to his dossier. He included golden shower story for s sake
    Think what you like, your reasoning is not clear to me. I mulled over your assertion, and find it hard to comprehend.

    Once more why, specifically, do you think that this do ent is less credible because he wasn't in the country.

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    Experts expressed scepticism about the theory.

    “As a rule, people like Gen Yerovinkin don’t tend to die in airport thriller murders,” said Mark Galeotti, an expert on the Russian security services.
    You should have finished the article

    "tends not to" is not the same as "never", is it?

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    Your question has now been answered. Your turn.

    What authenticity? What has been corroborated besides the Page bit from 2013? Who did Steele pay to gather intel? Were they reliable? What are their credentials?
    Crap, lunch is up, back to financial analysis. Good questions, the [edit]second (i.e. what else has been corroborated)[/edit] of which I have been meaning to get to, as it was one of the more striking things that made me a bit more ready to assign credibility to the rest of it.

    There is more than Page in there that has been backed up, he is just the latest shoe to drop. I have to go, but do me the favor of holding my feet to the fire on this one, so I don't forget to circle back to it.

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    obama spied on him cuz he's in cahoots with russians.


    i love this.

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    ing wrong, AGAIN, if you mean Bannion [sic] as backseat driver in Trash's Klown Kar.

    Mercer financed Trash (and Breitbart) and got his proteges Bannon, KA Conway, Steve Miller into Trash's entourage.

    Bannon and Kushner are actually at odds, rivals.

    ( Hilarious that after Steve "Goebbels" Miller's disastrous TV appearance (Trump’s authority ‘will not be questioned’),
    they've kept him off screen.

    Talking about off screen, has anybody ever heard Jared Kuntner speak? )

    You are an idiot.
    All indications show Kushner is in the front seat. I don't care that crazy fck Mercer is involved, and either does Trump.
    Wtf you talk bout Willis...

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    Lol. Donnie, thats not a good idea.

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    11 days before the election, Comey HIMSELF LEAKED by ANNOUNCEMENT LETTER that his FBI was investigating Hillary's emails AGAIN.

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    11 days before the election, Comey HIMSELF LEAKED by ANNOUNCEMENT LETTER that his FBI was investigating Hillary's emails AGAIN.
    No sir. Chaffetz leaked the letter.

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