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    Since I'm far too important to have my thoughts scattered about and buried under the storm that has ensued here in the past 20 or so hours . . .

    - I said 6, but I already think a '10 Suns style embarrassment is upcoming and whether they eke out a game or not, either way this is going to be short and one sided

    - I'm surprised by the lack of cliché, vanilla, blind faith "it's only 1 game" takes as a scroll through some of this, but it isn't: I can't remember a series where the team with home court got shredded and looked so defeatist in game 1 and recovered to win the series

    - You could see it on both teams faces from the jump, like they both knew the Spurs had no foundational or strategic answer for defending them, no lineup suited to do so either, nor the firepower to keep up

    - Pop compounded matters by panicking and frantically searching for a lineup that would work, including lineups that almost never play together . . . nothing sends a message to both teams that your team is in trouble like conceding immediately and conforming to the opposition

    - Unfortunately, as usual he'll come out of this largely unscathed in the aftermath, while the media mostly focuses on Aldridge, Parker and Ginobili

    - Aldridge has definitely regressed some, but more importantly, he's clearly lost all confidence and can't take the pressure of playing for a franchise of this stature and with this expectation and being expected to partially carry the load

    - The first two of those three things go for Green as well and that combined with his clear distaste for the way they've changed post '14, has probably led to him not looking the same

    - I called all of this in the off season, early in the season and periodically throughout, so I'm not surprised, but this team is definitely done in a general sense and like anyone else seriously interested in attempting to contend for a championship, will need to conform to Warriors/Cavaliers/Rockets ball in order to stand a chance going forward

    - I don't even think they can pull another fools gold regular season out of their ass if they bring the majority of this back: I'd expect this group to regress closer to 50 wins and a mid seed

    - Leonard is obviously untouchable; otherwise, Murray and Bertans should be kept (unless, of course, like 99% of athletes, they're blown away) and they should look to re-sign Dedmon or failing that Reed for the MLE, but everyone else should be shopped hard - in play

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    The best thing about this team getting exposed early in the playoffs (I saw this back in November, Spurs are not a top 3 team in the league and the worst Spurs team of the decade, not even close anymore) is that it'll force the FO to clean house as this team desperately needs it. Very poorly constructed roster, and trying to win from the midrange game is an incredibly dumb way to "outsmart" the league. It's a shooters league and the Spurs hardly have any consistent ones.

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    So OP is saying Houston will always make 22 three pointers? Pop hasn't even tried small ball yet. Calm down.

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    TD 21 can I co sign?


    Oh wait I practically already did last summer.

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    The best thing about this team getting exposed early in the playoffs (I saw this back in November, Spurs are not a top 3 team in the league and the worst Spurs team of the decade, not even close anymore) is that it'll force the FO to clean house as this team desperately needs it. Very poorly constructed roster, and trying to win from the midrange game is an incredibly dumb way to "outsmart" the league. It's a shooters league and the Spurs hardly have any consistent ones.
    Early? It's the 2nd round just like last year. They won 60+ games just like last year. Nothing will change.

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    Agree with pretty much all of this, except for I still think we have a decent shot at beating Houston. No way in are we beating GS, though, and this team needs major changes if we want to be legitimate* contenders in this league.

    *to be fair to PATFO, it's extremely ing difficult to be a legitimate contender when Curry/Klay/KD/Draymond are all on one team

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    The best thing about this team getting exposed early in the playoffs (I saw this back in November, Spurs are not a top 3 team in the league and the worst Spurs team of the decade, not even close anymore) is that it'll force the FO to clean house as this team desperately needs it. Very poorly constructed roster, and trying to win from the midrange game is an incredibly dumb way to "outsmart" the league. It's a shooters league and the Spurs hardly have any consistent ones.


    Great point, forgot to mention that it's actually for the best.

    If this somehow ends up even somewhat close, they can try to spin it, but a '10 Suns style thrashing is undeniable.

    So OP is saying Houston will always make 22 three pointers? Pop hasn't even tried small ball yet. Calm down.
    This is the I was referencing . . . I thought it would be Dex to the rescue, but knew it would be an old timer all the same.

    22 is a bit extreme, but the reality is the Spurs aren't built to play small, the big don't have the mobility to prevent them from generating great looks consistently and the Rockets are due to progress to the mean from 3.

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    While a lot of that is true, it was just one game and in most cases, one game's result rarely transfers over to the next game when two teams are pretty evenly matched.

    Spurs beat the Clippers 100-73 in game three, 2015 and lost the series in seven.

    Spurs beat the Thunder 124-92 in game one, 2016 and lost the series in six.

    The Rockets shot from three point range vs a pretty mediocre Thunder defense...

    Game 1 - 10-33
    GAME 2 - 11-29
    Game 3 - 10-35
    Game 4 - 11-35
    Game 5 - 6-37


    Game 1 vs Spurs 22-50 (44%)

    The series is far from over and I don't expect the Rockets to shoot nearly 45% from three on 50 attempts per game. The Rockets played a near flawless game while the Spurs played one of their worst postseason games ever.

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    "Since I am far too important..." everyone has the same feeling about themselves here...

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    Spurs gonna blow it up alright...they're going for CP3.

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    While a lot of that is true, it was just one game and in most cases, one game's result rarely transfers over to the next game when two teams are pretty evenly matched.

    Spurs beat the Clippers 100-73 in game three, 2015 and lost the series in seven.

    Spurs beat the Thunder 124-92 in game one, 2016 and lost the series in six.

    The Rockets shot from three point range vs a pretty mediocre Thunder defense...

    Game 1 - 10-33
    GAME 2 - 11-29
    Game 3 - 10-35
    Game 4 - 11-35
    Game 5 - 6-37



    Game 1 vs Spurs 22-50 (44%)

    The series is far from over and I don't expect the Rockets to shoot nearly 45% from three on 50 attempts per game. The Rockets played a near flawless game while the Spurs played one of their worst postseason games ever.
    Wow thats pretty incredible. They doubled up their best performance from the first round in the first game of the series. And i think it was shown last night that it was the 2nd most 3's in playoff history.

    What is it with teams and shooting so well against the Spurs. Freakin Grizzlies looked like the Warriors for a little bit there. Everyone is amped to beat the spurs it seems like. Saving their best games for them.

    If Rockets win this series, i can see them never coming close to 20 threes against the warriors and just bricking every wide open attempt. Seems to always happen

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    Agree with most points outside the blame game part. I think the dam has broken with regard to Pop criticism-- at least on national level-- and it's been long overdue.

    They are probably going to lose a 3rd consecutive series they were favored in (2 with HCA) in no small measure due to him pushing the wrong buttons-- though they seem to be more outmatched in reality in this one..

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    This is the I was referencing . . . I thought it would be Dex to the rescue, but knew it would be an old timer all the same.

    22 is a bit extreme, but the reality is the Spurs aren't built to play small, the big don't have the mobility to prevent them from generating great looks consistently and the Rockets are due to progress to the mean from 3.
    I can agree with you on that the Spurs aren't built for small ball....perhaps that's why Pop says he wont use it. That high P&R with Harden and Ryan Anderson was killer, but I got to hope that Kyle/Simms/Bertans can hedge and get out to shooter quicker than LMA was able to.

    Unfortunately, Pop will prob just adjust to switching and leave LMA on Harden to get killed-ala Conley- Gasol/Zbo

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    Will everyone's opinion change if the Spurs win big tomorrow night?

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    Will everyone's opinion change if the Spurs win big tomorrow night?
    Unlikely. If they win the next two and poop shows desire to make adjustment..possibly.

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    Will everyone's opinion change if the Spurs win big tomorrow night?
    Last night for me gave me the big picture..this team isn't championship caliber. If we're struggling this bad with Houston...GSW is gonna be a blood bath

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    No way the Spurs clean house. They are in the 2nd round of the playoffs. They are 7 extra game box offices richer than they would have been if they missed. Blowing it up costs more than keeping it together. Lebron and CP3 aren't coming.

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    Last night for me gave me the big picture..this team isn't championship caliber. If we're struggling this bad with Houston...GSW is gonna be a blood bath
    GSW is going to be a blood bath for anyone facing them. Only Houston stands a chance and even then only if they can stay hot from outside and bully the out of Curry and KD. Even then you'll get beaten by Dray and Klay, so Spurs just lack the weapons for long range warfare. They are urban assaulters, not snipers.

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    "Since I am far too important..." everyone has the same feeling about themselves here...
    He's the biggest on this forum. His self importance has been a thing since he arrived here. He used to cry because when his post count was still low he felt disrespected. He'd go out of his way to challenge LJ's takes to get noticed.

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    - I'm surprised by the lack of cliché, vanilla, blind faith "it's only 1 game" takes as a scroll through some of this, but it isn't: I can't remember a series where the team with home court got shredded and looked so defeatist in game 1 and recovered to win the series
    Boston vs Chicago last round

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    "Since I am far too important..." everyone has the same feeling about themselves here...
    It's called a joke.


    Boston vs Chicago last round
    News of Thomas's sisters death was fresh, Bulls won by 4, then lost Rondo after game 2.

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    Aldridge could be playing injured, or he could be effected by heart medications or something he's taking, but let's just assume he can't handle the pressure all of a sudden.

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    Aldridge could be playing injured, or he could be effected by heart medications or something he's taking, but let's just assume he can't handle the pressure all of a sudden.
    Let's assume he's a high paid athlete in the 2nd round of the playoffs playing like soft got. That works better.

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    Boston vs Chicago last round
    That's what I was thinking.

    We just witnessed a game where one team launched 50 3s and made 22. And the other team couldn't hit bunnies.

    Hopefully, the Rockets get y.

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    I just scanned through the OP. Nothing groundbreaking. You can sum it up with:Parker and Manu are too old.LMA is soft as .Green underperforms.Pop has lost any edge he had.

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