Tony Parker out for this season, AND maybe next season.

[HarlemHeat37]

100%

I think committing 20+ mil/per on Hill, Lowry would be a massive mistake.

I also don't like committing 35 mil/per on 32 yr old CP3 either. Spurs would be paying max money for the years he regresses.

The options are scarce for playmakers, tbh..none of the impending FAs are really worth pursuing(not to mention Spurs will have limited flexibility if Gasol opts in and Aldridge doesn't get moved)..

Even looking at the list of wings, the playmaking options(Manu replacement) are limited, too..Tyreke Evans is the best the Spurs could do, but he'll be too expensive..

It's very likely that Patty returns and Murray is the other PG/SG..

[Hoops Czar]

If people are already thinking about FA point guards this summer, Spurs could do a lot worse than looking west to Oakland. And I'm not talking about Curry.

The draft is the Spurs best friend right now.

[apalisoc_9]

Any thoughts on Bledsoe?

I watched him play this year, twice

How do the spurs get their hand on a player that cheap of the caliber..

Maybe he sucks now though.

I know my Kawhistorm was a big Brandon Knight guy ..

I'm sure you can get Brandon Knight for a box of keelnex.

[Mal]

On reddit guys are writing that if Parker retire due to injury, he can be waived, paid, but this won`t count against salary. Is that true ? Seems like best case scenario for Spurs, tbh

[SAGirl]

Parker has been ridiculous in the playoffs, but it would be foolish for the Spurs to rely on him, going forward IMO..

You can't ignore that he played horribly for most of the RS..the Spurs can't build a team with the thought process of banking on Parker turning it on in the playoffs after struggling for most of the 82 game season that would be a very irresponsible way of building a team..

Not only that. He was injured a lot through the season, just different things and at times his poor play was a reflection of him playing through nags at which time Pop would sit him, or him coming out of rhythm and playing shape after having to sit to rest his body. It was the least minutes he has played/averaged and the least he had produced since his rook season I think.

We all had doubts his body would hold up. He was looking done, the talk about him wasn't an exaggeration (except the trolls, they always exaggerate). In retrospect he was sparing his body, and soem games he was out of rhythm after coming back from injuries, but it's clear the necessary speed he needs to play his game puts a strain on his body at this point that will make him too injury prone to be relied upon moving forward (and that is assuming he returns in a playable state... reminders of Kobe come to mind for example).

[HarlemHeat37]

Any thoughts on Bledsoe?

I watched him play this year, twice

How do the spurs get their hand on a player that cheap of the caliber..

Maybe he sucks now though.

I know my Kawhistorm was a big Brandon Knight guy ..

I'm sure you can get Brandon Knight for a box of keelnex.

My guy Kawhistorm didn't have a good season, tbh not his best work..

[Mal]

The draft is the Spurs best friend right now.

You can`t find gem, that will start at PG and produce at 29th in the draft.

[gambit1990]

At the same time, everyone thinking he'll magically be able to come back from this injury and play at the same level is kidding themselves. This is a tough injury to come back from for anyone at any age, and he'd be almost 36 at the point of his return, playing a position demanding the most quickness and mobility in the game of basketball.

this so much.

[apalisoc_9]

I'm just watching Jordan Bell Highlights right now. I'll probably get fired for posting on Spurstalk all day on my phone...

but I know Manu4tres is a huge fan.

Seems like a Draymond Green Kinda player.

[Hoops Czar]

You can`t find gem, that will start at PG and produce at 29th in the draft.

I don't have confidence in RC buford either but, Isaiah Thomas says o.

[Poolboy5623]

You can`t find gem, that will start at PG and produce at 29th in the draft.

The Bucks sure did..

[Hoops Czar]

this so much.

He can't come back and be the worst PG in the league again? So all your posts about Parker's inep ude and on court production and replacing him with a hobbit was total BS after all.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I was in Toronto a month ago and the Rap hype wasn't at the same level it was a year ago or even two years ago. I think it's dying down. Would have been worst if the leafs won their series too.

I think Lowry's injury at the time really took the wind out of the Raptors sails. That, and having to face Cleveland earlier than last season has crushed momentum from the fans.

And like you said, I'm sure the Leafs being in the playoffs and part of a great series took away some of the attention from the Raptors.

[Mal]

I don't have confidence in RC buford either but, Isaiah Thomas says o.

It took couple years for Thomas. Spurs already have development PG.

The Bucks sure did..

Yeah, they did. But this year, late 1st round, early 2nd only PG that could be this gem is Jawun Evans from Oklahoma State.

[tmtcsc]

Tony should call it a career. Even though he was playing better the last few weeks, his overall decline was happening quickly. I have no idea what Pop had in mind with Murray / TP for 2018 but this certainly expedites things for the rookie. I don't think he's ready now and probably won't be next year either but I know the coaching staff loves his potential. -- They think he's going to be a star for the team.

[SpursforSix]

Ya, as much as Hill has improved since leaving the Spurs, he's still a mediocre ball-handler(for a PG) who doesn't really run an offense at a high level(masked on Utah because they have a variety of players with ball-handling skills)..his game probably won't translate well with age compared to somebody like Chris Paul(I don't want him either, though)..

Yeah...Hill is not any kind of realistic option. It'd be another old player who's pretty good. I'd rather break the bank on Paul if they're going to go that route. Which I hope they don't.

[MaNu4Tres]

The options are scarce for playmakers, tbh..none of the impending FAs are really worth pursuing(not to mention Spurs will have limited flexibility if Gasol opts in and Aldridge doesn't get moved)..

Even looking at the list of wings, the playmaking options(Manu replacement) are limited, too..Tyreke Evans is the best the Spurs could do, but he'll be too expensive..

It's very likely that Patty returns and Murray is the other PG/SG..

There's no quick fix that can get the Spurs on the level of the Warriors. Spurs just have to be solid in the draft, through outside the box Free Agents, and development. I'd just start loading up w/ two way prospects or two way players with length that can play both ends.

I'd start looking at young mobile bigs that can defend in space and that are proficient in PnR diving/finishing.

For instance, I'd flip Anderson for a 2nd in 2018.

Maybe trade 29th down to 33 and 35. Target Jordan Bell, DJ Wilson, Josh Hart, Wesley Iwundu.


I think it will take a few years to get there. But I think Spurs need to acquire more players w/ length that have two way capabilities that can give them the versatility on both ends.

[mo7888]

There's no quick fix that can get the Spurs on the level of the Warriors. Spurs just have to be solid in the draft, through outside the box Free Agents, and development. I'd just start loading up w/ two way prospects or two way players with length that can play both ends.

I'd start looking at young mobile bigs that can defend in space and that are proficient in PnR diving/finishing.

For instance, I'd flip Anderson for a 2nd in 2018.

Maybe trade 29th down to 33 and 35. Target Jordan Bell, DJ Wilson, Josh Hart, Wesley Iwundu.

Then trade LA for a prospect, two way wing and a 1st.

Trading LA for Bledsoe + pick ?.I'd rather have Bledsoe than Mills.. tbh.

I think it will take a few years to get there. But I think Spurs need to acquire more players w/ length that have two way capabilities that can give them the versatility on both ends.

Pretty much agree with all of that. I especially like the idea of trading LA for Bledsoe and a pick. I'd like to see us get Bender in a trade with Phx.

[SpursforSix]

There's no quick fix that can get the Spurs on the level of the Warriors. Spurs just have to be solid in the draft, through outside the box Free Agents, and development. I'd just start loading up w/ two way prospects or two way players with length that can play both ends.

I'd start looking at young mobile bigs that can defend in space and that are proficient in PnR diving/finishing.

For instance, I'd flip Anderson for a 2nd in 2018.

Maybe trade 29th down to 33 and 35. Target Jordan Bell, DJ Wilson, Josh Hart, Wesley Iwundu.

Then trade LA for a prospect, two way wing and a 1st.

Trading LA for Bledsoe + pick ?.I'd rather have Bledsoe than Mills.. tbh.

I think it will take a few years to get there. But I think Spurs need to acquire more players w/ length that have two way capabilities that can give them the versatility on both ends.

Solid take. You hit the nail on the head..."no quick fix".

[MaNu4Tres]

I take it back though, if Spurs trade LA.. I'd rather get back space, role playing prospect and a pick.

Wouldn't use LA on PG when we have Murray making pennies and able to be good enough to take over w/ huge ceiling to grow into.

Say no to Bledsoe if Spurs have to use their biggest asset ( yet not that desirable). Use LA for assets that inject cheap youth in the pipeline asap.

[objective]

Maybe Murray shows enough in the playoffs that it settles the point guard question with regards to free agents.

I especially don't want Hill. He'd cost about the same as Paul and if he can't stay healthy in a contract year, including missing tonight's game 2 at Warriors, how can he be trusted at all as he gets older?

[turkish spurs fan]

good news actually

[turb0time]

[TD 21]

I never thought Mills was going anywhere anyway and Parker's injury probably nearly clinches his being re-signed. Suffice it to say, the opportunity for him is now greater, as is the need from the Spurs' perspective. Barring an Aldridge trade or Gasol opting out and the dynamics changing, they can't afford to squander his Bird rights and blow the mid-level exception on a point guard. It has to be reserved for Dedmon or failing that, a center of similar ilk.

The only two clear rotation point guard I could see them pursuing, are Williams and Teodosic (there's been conflicting reports about their interest), since they'd both probably be better off defending shooting guards at this stage of their respective careers anyway. They'd have to settle for the bi-annual exception (with a player option after the 1st year) though. Outside of them, I'd expect them to pursue veteran's minimum types, like Calderon, Udrih, Brooks, Vasquez (partial guarantee), etc.

I don't mean it to sound insensitive, but there are some potential good long term things that could come out of this . . .

- They'll more than likely be forced to throw Murray in the fire next season and get a better handle on him
- Parker will obviously cost less to re-sign and it'll make it easier to transition him into a bench role if Murray progresses rapidly
- Despite his wishes, 20 seasons was always unlikely and it's even less so now, which means there's a better chance of them avoiding an awkward situation

[gambit1990]

I don't mean it to sound insensitive, but there are some potential good long term things that could come out of this . . .

- They'll more than likely be forced to throw Murray in the fire next season and get a better handle on him
- Parker will obviously cost less to re-sign and it'll make it easier to transition him into a bench role if Murray progresses rapidly
- Despite his wishes, 20 seasons was always unlikely and it's even less so now, which means there's a better chance of them avoiding an awkward situation

nothing else would have forced pop's hand. it's great we have this opportunity to also gauge mills.

you lost me at the resigning tp part.