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    There's no quick fix that can get the Spurs on the level of the Warriors. Spurs just have to be solid in the draft, through outside the box Free Agents, and development. I'd just start loading up w/ two way prospects or two way players with length that can play both ends.

    I'd start looking at young mobile bigs that can defend in space and that are proficient in PnR diving/finishing.

    For instance, I'd flip Anderson for a 2nd in 2018.

    Maybe trade 29th down to 33 and 35. Target Jordan Bell, DJ Wilson, Josh Hart, Wesley Iwundu.


    I think it will take a few years to get there. But I think Spurs need to acquire more players w/ length that have two way capabilities that can give them the versatility on both ends.
    I think the Spurs should draft a big; the 20-40 range is littered with interesting prospects.

    Paseknicks or Bam Adebayo look like solid picks.

    If Anderson would be traded, I would shop him hard to Orlando (granted they fired their GM after whiteboard gate) for the 33rd and 35th pick though that is probably unrealistic.

    If Frank Mason falls to 59, that would be great for the Spurs, they could get a capable 3rd string PG to help them ride out Parker's injury.

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    Although he's had a throwback post-season, he's a shadow of his former self, even when healthy.
    I can't imagine him coming back after this.
    He went down like a champ. He should probably stay down and enjoy his retirement.

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    Of ing course this couldn't have happened to Harden or Curry

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    I hate to see Parker's career as we know it end like this and I do think this is the end of Parker the contributor. Rupturing the tendon in your quad is similar to an achilles tear. Even if he comes back towards the end of next year it'd take him the entire rest of the season to get into any type of rhythm if that is still possible. Then he'll be 36 at the beginning of the following season. Speed PG's don't age well. I'm guessing speed PG's with ruptured leg tendons are probably going to really struggle.

    I'm sick over it. Not like this boss. Not like this.

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    Although he's had a throwback post-season, he's a shadow of his former self, even when healthy.
    I can't imagine him coming back after this.
    He went down like a champ. He should probably stay down and enjoy his retirement.
    If Parker is a shadow of his former self what does that make Manu?

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    nothing else would have forced pop's hand. it's great we have this opportunity to also gauge mills.

    you lost me at the resigning tp part.
    I have been a big fan of Tony's for most of his career - especially this playoff run - but the idea of re-signing him after the end of this contract was never a move that I thought even PATFO would pull. Yet there is at least one poster who wants to bring Manu back! Hmmm... I hope Tony's injury doesn't increase that possibility...

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    I have been a big fan of Tony's for most of his career - especially this playoff run - but the idea of re-signing him after the end of this contract was never a move that I thought even PATFO would pull. Yet there is at least one poster who wants to bring Manu back! Hmmm... I hope Tony's injury doesn't increase that possibility...
    If there are guys that want Manu back, there are those that want Tony back... you know how PATFO is, he will want them back too. As much as I respect them, it will get to Kobe level, and that is the point where even fans were sick of that. One would rather hope they know when to retire and not let it get to that.

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    How, exactly?

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    If there are guys that want Manu back, there are those that want Tony back... you know how PATFO is, he will want them back too. As much as I respect them, it will get to Kobe level, and that is the point where even fans were sick of that. One would rather hope they know when to retire and not let it get to that.
    If Pop wants Tony and Manu back, whoever has the authority in the Spurs' organization needs to send him packing. And he needs to seek professional help.

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    If there are guys that want Manu back, there are those that want Tony back... you know how PATFO is, he will want them back too. As much as I respect them, it will get to Kobe level, and that is the point where even fans were sick of that. One would rather hope they know when to retire and not let it get to that.
    Difference is, they won't keep the franchise handcuffed like Kobe did. If TP gets a new contract, I have little doubts it'll be cheap and allow for the Spurs to continue to keep a compe ive roster. He got his pay day, as did Manu.

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    If Pop wants Tony and Manu back, whoever has the authority in the Spurs' organization needs to send him packing. And he needs to seek professional help.
    And what if they want to come back for cheap and have smaller roles, for cheap?

    Like TP looked better than TD did in his last playoff series, & there is no doubt Pop wanted TD to come back. Why wouldn't he want TP back, who could still have smaller role with the team. He's not going to give these guys tons of $ to come back, & it's really not surprising that he wants them there. I meatn he's been through so much with them. For him to not want them there I'd say he needs professional help.

    Him wanting those guys back, who are probably like his kids, certainly doesn't cons ute needing professional help lol... If he cripples the franchise and pays them big $, then that's a different argument.

    They've managed to rebuild with those guys there.. Their roles will continue to get smaller, and I'm sure the contracts will reflect that, IF they get new contracts.

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    For those of us who remember the Lloyd Daniels years, the Rod Strickland years, and the Avery Johnson years, TP has been so good for so long. I don't know that this is the end, like people say, but to see him injured after his renaissance play during this playoff run, it's disheartening. Only thing worse I can remember was Duncan wrecking his knee after dunking on Pollard in the 2000 playoffs.

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    And what if they want to come back for cheap and have smaller roles, for cheap?

    Like TP looked better than TD did in his last playoff series, & there is no doubt Pop wanted TD to come back. Why wouldn't he want TP back, who could still have smaller role with the team. He's not going to give these guys tons of $ to come back, & it's really not surprising that he wants them there. I meatn he's been through so much with them. For him to not want them there I'd say he needs professional help.

    Him wanting those guys back, who are probably like his kids, certainly doesn't cons ute needing professional help lol... If he cripples the franchise and pays them big $, then that's a different argument.

    They've managed to rebuild with those guys there.. Their roles will continue to get smaller, and I'm sure the contracts will reflect that, IF they get new contracts.
    My friend, comparing a PF/C with a PG is apples-and-oranges in the first place. But Timmy did not sit out numerous games his next-to-last season with a bunch of nagging injuries. Timmy was still a big contributor in his last season until his good knee went lame. Tony looked done this RS. This playoff run has been glorious, but certainly nothing you can take to the bank. Manu went... how many consecutive games throwing up air balls and putting up goose eggs in the box score? Pop relies on geezers to a fault. Bringing back geezers will only re whatever young talent we have that we desperately need to develop. Two roster spots going to geezers when the team desperately needs some youth and athleticism (not to mention length) to compete in the league going forward? No. If you prefer geezers for one last wheels-falling-off-the-wagon last stand, then you and I will just have to disagree and see where PATFO goes,and how it works out.

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    There's no quick fix that can get the Spurs on the level of the Warriors. Spurs just have to be solid in the draft, through outside the box Free Agents, and development. I'd just start loading up w/ two way prospects or two way players with length that can play both ends.

    I'd start looking at young mobile bigs that can defend in space and that are proficient in PnR diving/finishing.

    For instance, I'd flip Anderson for a 2nd in 2018.

    Maybe trade 29th down to 33 and 35. Target Jordan Bell, DJ Wilson, Josh Hart, Wesley Iwundu.


    I think it will take a few years to get there. But I think Spurs need to acquire more players w/ length that have two way capabilities that can give them the versatility on both ends.
    Nice take EXCEPT for Bledsoe...

    It's a terrible idea, he has the body to get injured regularly, I give him 2 or 3 more years before being irrelevant.

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    On reddit guys are writing that if Parker retire due to injury, he can be waived, paid, but this won`t count against salary. Is that true ? Seems like best case scenario for Spurs, tbh
    No, it's not true.

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    well this blows. I read a comment from a poster yesterday saying that if that was the last of TP he went out like an alpha

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    My friend, comparing a PF/C with a PG is apples-and-oranges in the first place. But Timmy did not sit out numerous games his next-to-last season with a bunch of nagging injuries. Timmy was still a big contributor in his last season until his good knee went lame. Tony looked done this RS. This playoff run has been glorious, but certainly nothing you can take to the bank. Manu went... how many consecutive games throwing up air balls and putting up goose eggs in the box score? Pop relies on geezers to a fault. Bringing back geezers will only re whatever young talent we have that we desperately need to develop. Two roster spots going to geezers when the team desperately needs some youth and athleticism (not to mention length) to compete in the league going forward? No. If you prefer geezers for one last wheels-falling-off-the-wagon last stand, then you and I will just have to disagree and see where PATFO goes,and how it works out.
    I am with you. I would have no problem whatsoever if they came back in a vet min with maybe a different coach that did not have an emotional attachment and would play them as appropriate in small roles. But that coach is not Pop. Manu doesn't have much in the tank at all already, we don't have to wait to see that decline... to Kobe efficiency and it will only get worse... You can't tell me any of the other young guys wouldn't be better than 19% shooting in the playoffs and some assists/TO. Tony's body is falling off b4 our eyes. It has started that is why I mentioned Kobe, after the achilles, it was the next thing, then the next thing, then the washed up inefficient chucking, then the end. He didn't want to retire either. Guys have to know when its over, and sometimes it's someone they love who has to sit them down and open their eyes. That won't be Pop. He's stuck in 2007 but with Kiwi in it pretty much.

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    Of ing course this couldn't have happened to Harden or Curry
    Well yeah of course it hasn't happened since they are still young and in their 20's. Wait another 5 years and see if they don't run into any injuries. Unfortunately Parker's age finally did him in.

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    Nice take EXCEPT for Bledsoe...

    It's a terrible idea, he has the body to get injured regularly, I give him 2 or 3 more years before being irrelevant.
    Read a few posts under the one you quoted.

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    I wonder if Sleepy Floyd and Tom Garrick are available?

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    For those of us who remember the Lloyd Daniels years, the Rod Strickland years, and the Avery Johnson years, TP has been so good for so long. I don't know that this is the end, like people say, but to see him injured after his renaissance play during this playoff run, it's disheartening. Only thing worse I can remember was Duncan wrecking his knee after dunking on Pollard in the 2000 playoffs.
    I agree that sucked but it was a regular season game.

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    "Swine the leg" they say...

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    If Parker is a shadow of his former self what does that make Manu?
    I don't know what your point is. No one can escape Father Time.

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    Parker is a warrior and a fast healer tbh he will be back next year

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    One of the best seasons for Parker when it comes to playmaking. And now had great playoffs ....
    Now more stagnant offense and no experience will be added in Anderson or Simmons and maybe Murray...

    damnit



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