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    For Rockets series:

    I think Simmons would be a good fit for starting at PG in Tony's place and make the offense flow through Kawhi. I think Kawhi has played better on the PnR/PnP so he could run that with Aldridge in place of the Tony/LMA PnP. On the offensive end Simmons can bring more athleticism and ability to drive and kick, while being able to shoot around what Parker does (haven't looked at numbers). On defense, it will allow us to not have a liability in the backcourt when they do Beverly/Harden screens and I think Simmons overall is a better defender. Simmons doesn't have the BBIQ of Parker and hopefully Pop will give him an earful on every dumb decision if this happens to keep him in check. He doesn't need to take over but just fill that gap. Also, this lineup will allow Patty (who I think is going to be the starter) to play with the second unit and keep that chemistry going.

    Sorry if this has been suggested in another thread... i've been sick and haven't been able to keep up.

    TL;DR Start Simmons in Tony's place; Run offense through Kawhi; Keep Patty with second unit; Kyle and Murray take some of what used to be Simmons' minutes.
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    Here's a novel idea: Let's get everyone to start a new thread any time they have something to say instead of posting it in an already existing thread talking about the same thing. I mean, you wouldn't want your epiphany buried in the trash heap of all the other posters' responses, so make new threads.

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    Stopped reading at first sentence
    Not sure why you felt the need to tell me...

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    Here's a novel idea: Let's get everyone to start a new thread any time they have something to say instead of posting it in an already existing thread talking about the same thing. I mean, you wouldn't want your epiphany buried in the trash heap of all the other posters' responses, so make new threads.

    1. Think
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    I guess we shouldn't make threads on a sports forum or DMC might get upset


    How about we be a big boy and scroll past threads that we don't want to read?

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    Tell me why you disagree. Im not saying im 100% correct but it would be cool to actually discuss it lmao

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    Or you could not make ty threads that people have to scroll past.

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    I guess we shouldn't make threads on a sports forum or DMC might get upset


    How about we be a big boy and scroll past threads that we don't want to read?
    I've been too sick to read, but not too sick to start new threads

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    Or you could not make ty threads that people have to scroll past.
    Tell me why its a ty thread, tbh.

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    I've been too sick to read, but not too sick to start new threads

    ing gnsf every year in the post season.
    Haven't been on the forum in awhile so it should be understandable if I don't know what every post in every thread says, sorry for not living on here.

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    Simmons isn't a pg. He's barely an NBA player.

    I also stopped reading after that.

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    I think Simmons would be a good fit for starting at PG in Tony's place and make the offense flow through Kawhi. I think Kawhi has played better on the PnR/PnP so he could run that with Aldridge in place of the Tony/LMA PnP. On the offensive end Simmons can bring more athleticism and ability to drive and kick, while being able to shoot around what Parker does (haven't looked at numbers). On defense, it will allow us to not have a liability in the backcourt when they do Beverly/Harden screens and I think Simmons overall is a better defender. Simmons doesn't have the BBIQ of Parker and hopefully Pop will give him an earful on every dumb decision if this happens to keep him in check. He doesn't need to take over but just fill that gap. Also, this lineup will allow Patty (who I think is going to be the starter) to play with the second unit and keep that chemistry going.

    Sorry if this has been suggested in another thread... i've been sick and haven't been able to keep up.

    TL;DR Start Simmons in Tony's place; Run offense through Kawhi; Keep Patty with second unit; Kyle and Murray take some of what used to be Simmons' minutes.
    I agree with you. Simmons would be best on D (if he has his rotations down). Kawhi is going to have to shoulder the load no matter who starts at the 1. We just need someone good enough on d to keep those Houston shooters honest, and good enough on O that the Houston d can't always double off of them. Anderson is so conservative on offense that Simmons makes more sense.

    That said there should be a quick hook if Simmons has one of his "selfish stop the ball" games.

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    Simmons isn't a pg. He's barely an NBA player.

    I also stopped reading after that.
    I understand Simmons isnt a PG, but we're in a situation that doesn't really allow any great options. Mills starting and murray playing backup minutes? Murray starting and mills playing backup? Im ready for some Murray but if he's not ready for the fire, then what?

    Out of all the post, where do you think it would fail? Don't think it's a good idea for Kawhi to be handling the PG duties? Simmons would get torched? It's a discussion because our starting PG got a season ending injury, not because I just felt like saying Simmons should be a PG.

    It's cool if you or others disagree but damn, you could at least read the reasoning and provide your own opinion. I'm not sure why that's such a complicated thing on an internet forums.... meant to discuss ideas.

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    Patty is not a pg either he is a sg in a very small pg body

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    I understand Simmons isnt a PG, but we're in a situation that doesn't really allow any great options. Mills starting and murray playing backup minutes? Murray starting and mills playing backup? Im ready for some Murray but if he's not ready for the fire, then what?

    Out of all the post, where do you think it would fail? Don't think it's a good idea for Kawhi to be handling the PG duties? Simmons would get torched? It's a discussion because our starting PG got a season ending injury, not because I just felt like saying Simmons should be a PG.

    It's cool if you or others disagree but damn, you could at least read the reasoning and provide your own opinion. I'm not sure why that's such a complicated thing on an internet forums.... meant to discuss ideas.
    Spurs will find a pg that is better than Simmons.

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    I agree with you. Simmons would be best on D (if he has his rotations down). Kawhi is going to have to shoulder the load no matter who starts at the 1. We just need someone good enough on d to keep those Houston shooters honest, and good enough on O that the Houston d can't always double off of them. Anderson is so conservative on offense that Simmons makes more sense.

    That said there should be a quick hook if Simmons has one of his "selfish stop the ball" games.
    Yea, it would have to be a trial and react on how it's going. I'm ready for Murray but i'm worried he will get torched by Harden (pat/harden screen) and get 4 fouls by half on lame flops. He won't get benefit of the doubt against Harden and it could get ugly. No silver bullet in this situation, but my opinion is Simmons at the 1 in the SL gives us the best match-up against their SL while Patty being able to play with second unit.

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    Spurs will find a pg that is better than Simmons.
    If you're talking about next season then yea... we can't have Simmons permanently moved to PG. If thats a miscommunication, then I need to clarify by saying I was speaking about this series.

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    You should reword your OP and you'll get a better response. You're basically saying let Kawhi be a point forward. Simmons would get the start but he really wouldn't be the PG. Not a terrible idea but idk if Juice is consistent enough to start and his 3PT shot is pretty broken right now. Definitely not on par with what HOTS (RIP ) was doing this postseason (over 50% from 3 IIRC).

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    You should reword your OP and you'll get a better response. You're basically saying let Kawhi be a point forward. Simmons would get the start but he really wouldn't be the PG. Not a terrible idea but idk if Juice is consistent enough to start and his 3PT shot is pretty broken right now. Definitely not on par with what HOTS (RIP ) was doing this postseason (over 50% from 3 IIRC).
    Tony was killing it, which makes his injury tough to swallow. No silver bullet in this situation and whoever gets that spot is subject to get changed based on the teams performance. Mills and Murray make offensive sense to start, but I think they will be overwhelmed on the other end of the court; Murrays inexperience and Pattys size. Although I don't recall Patty getting burned often, it might still be a good idea to let him run a lot with the second unit. Tough situation.

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    I prefer Murray... but he's a rook that has seldom played the last few weeks of the season so maybe my wish is unrealistic.

    Pops likely approach: start Mills, Murray to the bench, with bench playmaking on Ginobili, with Simmons increasing his role for more scoring and maybe Kyle picks up bench minutes as well, or Murray. I'd sneak in Bertans sometime if they need a 3pt threat... but anyways, all of these guys Murray, Kyle, Davis should get the bench minutes, and Mills start. In the bench, you ride the hot hand. Pau needs to bring up his scoring. Kyle when aggressive has been efficiently scoring tbh.. underrated player.

    Also, GWS OP

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    I prefer Murray... but he's a rook that has seldom played the last few weeks of the season so maybe my wish is unrealistic.

    Pops likely approach: start Mills, Murray to the bench, with bench playmaking on Ginobili, with Simmons increasing his role for more scoring and maybe Kyle picks up bench minutes as well, or Murray. I'd sneak in Bertans sometime if they need a 3pt threat... but anyways, all of these guys Murray, Kyle, Davis should get the bench minutes, and Mills start. In the bench, you ride the hot hand. Pau needs to bring up his scoring. Kyle when aggressive has been efficiently scoring tbh.. underrated player.
    I think this is the most likely scenario as well.

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    If Simmons gets the nod as a starter, HOU will switch the up until Juice is either with Harden or Ariza. He would foul-out in the 1st 3 mins tbh

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    If Simmons gets the nod as a starter, HOU will switch the up until Juice is either with Harden or Ariza. He would foul-out in the 1st 3 mins tbh
    You would rather have Murray or Mills on Harden? If so, we just disagree on that.

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    OP has potential...

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