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    I predicted he wouldn't last. Like all the other previous years. Hindsight and all but like only 3-5 people thought that and posted that.

    Everyone else can just pretend.
    What a dip

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    Ok, got.

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    Stop whining about asterisks, almost every le winning team gets some major breaks with injuries to opponents.
    Not like the Warriors have. They were gifted that 2015 le on a silver platter. In 2016 they needed Durant to quit and then lost to the Cavs in 7 in the NBA Finals. This year, they play Portland/Utah/ and then an average Rockets team or the Spurs without Parker. Let's see then actually eliminate a healthy Cavs team for once.

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    Not like the Warriors have. They were gifted that 2015 le on a silver platter. In 2016 they needed Durant to quit and then lost to the Cavs in 7 in the NBA Finals. This year, they play Portland/Utah/ and then an average Rockets team or the Spurs without Parker. Let's see then actually eliminate a healthy Cavs team for once.
    And the Spurs benefited from Ibaka being hurt in 2014. From Nowitzki in 03. From Wade in 05 (no way Detroit was a better team than Miami that year). And then the suspensions and Dallas' fluke loss in 07. It's why I hate when fans here say they want the Spurs to beat the other team full strength. Almost no one wins a le without some breaks.

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    Not like the Warriors have. They were gifted that 2015 le on a silver platter. In 2016 they needed Durant to quit and then lost to the Cavs in 7 in the NBA Finals. This year, they play Portland/Utah/ and then an average Rockets team or the Spurs without Parker. Let's see then actually eliminate a healthy Cavs team for once.
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    I'm throwing this series or next. Winning wouldn't be fair to Tony.


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    Does anyone know what the recovery table is for this type of injury?
    I seen from 4 to 5 months to as long as a year. It depends on if its a complete tear or partial tear.

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    Horrible numbers on Aldridge and Gasol for big men tbh... and paid at 20 mill and 15 mill respectively...
    look at those numbers on Ginobili.. wow.
    I'd say Anderson would need to play a bit.. but unlikely.
    The OP of another thread sure got roasted for suggesting Simmons should replace Tony in the SL, but these numbers don't make that seem as ridiculous as some asserted. Just stirrin' the pot a little.

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    The OP of another thread sure got roasted for suggesting Simmons should replace Tony in the SL, but these numbers don't make that seem as ridiculous as some asserted. Just stirrin' the pot a little.
    He was roasted because some thought the OP meant a permanent replacement. I actually agree with him that having Simmons out there for defense and a threat to penetrate, with Kawhi running the offense wouldn't be bad at all.

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    That's ugly.

    Mills is a shooter so he's never going to be able to put up consistent numbers. Aldridge really needs to stop up big time.
    Aldridge should be ashamed of himself..This bum is getting outplayed by 35 year-old Parker with 44000+ career minutes/+220 playoffs games in the odometer..Makes you appreciate TP even more-- warts and all..
    LMA is not a guy I expect to "step up." Clearly plays for pay not for winning. Parker, on the other hand, stepped up and played better than most ST posters ever expected. He gave us a puncher's chance. He will be missed. And he will be recognized for being a great Spur sooner rather than later - especially if this is a career ending injury. But the table also shows that Patty has been playing well, shooting a good TS%, and will easily get the starting nod now. I don't think the starting unit will be a big problem, but without Patty on the second unit, I expect it to be our demise - the domino-effect of losing Tony.

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    He was roasted because some thought the OP meant a permanent replacement. I actually agree with him that having Simmons out there for defense and a threat to penetrate, with Kawhi running the offense wouldn't be bad at all.
    Yeah, in the context of Tony's injury dominating all of our thoughts and discussion, it seemed clear what he was saying, but... Anyway, Pop gave Simmons some minutes as the principal ball-handler of the second (well, mostly garbage ) unit for stretches during the RS. We may get to see if that pays off at all - at least for the remainder of this series. It would be way cool to see that guy put it all together and finish this series like he was going Groundhog Day against the Dubs in the season opener.

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    So who's going to step up and help Kawhi score?

    Leonard - 30.3ppg on 72.6TS%
    Parker - 15.9ppg on 61.6TS%
    Aldridge - 13.5ppg on 49.3TS%
    Mills - 9.4ppg on 63.9TS%
    Green - 6.9ppg on 50.4TS%
    Gasol - 6.4ppg on 44.0TS%
    Simmons - 6.1ppg on 58.4TS%
    Lee - 5.1ppg on 59.2TS%
    Forbes - 5.0ppg on 83.3TS%
    Anderson - 4.3ppg on 74.7TS%
    Ginobili - 3.5ppg on 35.7TS%
    Dedmon - 2.6ppg on 79.8TS%
    Bertans - 2.3ppg on 44.7TS%
    Murray - 2.3ppg on 41.1TS%
    Not likely to be Garbidge or Lysol.

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    LMA is not a guy I expect to "step up." Clearly plays for pay not for winning. Parker, on the other hand, stepped up and played better than most ST posters ever expected. He gave us a puncher's chance. He will be missed. And he will be recognized for being a great Spur sooner rather than later - especially if this is a career ending injury. But the table also shows that Patty has been playing well, shooting a good TS%, and will easily get the starting nod now. I don't think the starting unit will be a big problem, but without Patty on the second unit, I expect it to be our demise - the domino-effect of losing Tony.
    I would bench Ginobili if we are going to be pot stirring and talking about guys not scoring. Start Patty.
    And to me, a bench of Simmons Murray Kyle and Bertans has no problem scoring whatsoever and they have good chemistry. You throw Manu in there and he's ball dominant, will want the ball for less efficiency shots than everyone else and to feel useful and like he's helping when in reality these guys have been fine when he's sitting. I am sure trolls are going to be out, but it's the truth.

    This is unlikely to happen but consider that without his partner in Mills, Ginobili at this stage won't be the same. The roles have reversed. It wouldn't even surprise me if someone else but a Mills starts not bc of Mills but due to this factor.

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    LMA is not a guy I expect to "step up." Clearly plays for pay not for winning. Parker, on the other hand, stepped up and played better than most ST posters ever expected. He gave us a puncher's chance. He will be missed. And he will be recognized for being a great Spur sooner rather than later - especially if this is a career ending injury. But the table also shows that Patty has been playing well, shooting a good TS%, and will easily get the starting nod now. I don't think the starting unit will be a big problem, but without Patty on the second unit, I expect it to be our demise - the domino-effect of losing Tony.
    Heh I expect any of the young guys that plays to step up more than I would expect of Lamarcus dude is either injured or he has no spine. Tony schooled him on what competing is.

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    After surgery, the patient will start with gentle passive range of motion with their physical therapist. The patient will be able to weight bear with all of their weight on their leg after a week or two, but will have to wear the brace they received after surgery locked straight for the first six weeks, except when doing their therapy. By six weeks post-op, the patient should have 90 degrees of flexion (bending) of the knee. After six weeks, progressive strengthening is started as well as increasing range of motion. Typically, the brace is discontinued at eight weeks from surgery. Light running is generally started at four months from surgery. Return to sport is governed by the ability to perform sport specific exercises and having adequate range of motion and strength. This is generally between 6-8 months from the day of surgery. It should be noted that rehabilitation protocols are often very specific to the type of injury and the type of repair that was achieved at the time of surgery. The above protocol is just an outline of “typical” rehabilitation.

    http://www.sportsmd.com/hip-thigh-injuries/quadriceps-tendon-rupture/

    In otherwords, no Parker for a long time.

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    I just wonder the impact it has on team morale? Will it be something that gives the guys a short-term boost as they rally around each other? Will it be deflating?

    It concerns me some that as much as ST hates on TP, both Pop and Kawhi this year as TP struggled during the RS both basically said TP is critical to what they do. They basically said they would be concerned if there was no TP and here we have it.

    Will be interesting for sure.

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    I just wonder the impact it has on team morale? Will it be something that gives the guys a short-term boost as they rally around each other? Will it be deflating?

    It concerns me some that as much as ST hates on TP, both Pop and Kawhi this year as TP struggled during the RS both basically said TP is critical to what they do. They basically said they would be concerned if there was no TP and here we have it.

    Will be interesting for sure.
    I'm honestly not as worried as most. Yes, TP is a big blow, but Spurs have guys who are very capable and very thirsty ( Simmons/Murray).

    I think the team is still confident they can get it done and I think this loss isn't a death blow like it would be if they lost Kawhi.

    If Pop keeps going small w/ Kawhi at the 4 for atleast half the game, I like the Spurs to still win this series. Spurs have the players capable of stepping up.

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    I'm honestly not as worried as most. Yes, TP is a big blow, but Spurs have guys who are very capable and very thirsty ( Simmons/Murray).

    I think the team is still confident they can get it done and I think this loss isn't a death blow like it would be if they lost Kawhi.

    If Pop keeps going small w/ Kawhi at the 4 for atleast half the game, I like the Spurs to still win this series. Spurs have the players capable of stepping up.
    Oh for sure it's nothing like losing Kawhi but it's a big deal for many reasons. Will it be a big enough deal to where SA can't overcome it? Maybe, but that is what we have to see.

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    I would bench Ginobili if we are going to be pot stirring and talking about guys not scoring. Start Patty.
    And to me, a bench of Simmons Murray Kyle and Bertans has no problem scoring whatsoever and they have good chemistry. You throw Manu in there and he's ball dominant, will want the ball for less efficiency shots than everyone else and to feel useful and like he's helping when in reality these guys have been fine when he's sitting. I am sure trolls are going to be out, but it's the truth.

    This is unlikely to happen but consider that without his partner in Mills, Ginobili at this stage won't be the same. The roles have reversed. It wouldn't even surprise me if someone else but a Mills starts not bc of Mills but due to this factor.
    Yeah, I don't see Mills starting. Someone else will. Not sure if its Murray or not.

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    Sucks. Get well TP9.Paging Murray on line 3.........

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    I would bench Ginobili if we are going to be pot stirring and talking about guys not scoring. Start Patty.
    And to me, a bench of Simmons Murray Kyle and Bertans has no problem scoring whatsoever and they have good chemistry. You throw Manu in there and he's ball dominant, will want the ball for less efficiency shots than everyone else and to feel useful and like he's helping when in reality these guys have been fine when he's sitting. I am sure trolls are going to be out, but it's the truth.

    This is unlikely to happen but consider that without his partner in Mills, Ginobili at this stage won't be the same. The roles have reversed. It wouldn't even surprise me if someone else but a Mills starts not bc of Mills but due to this factor.
    Yeah, without Manu maybe your bench unit is better than I suggested. Personally, I would have benched Manu long, long ago. But Tony's injury probably means Pop will lean more heavily on Him and, perhaps, be even more tolerant of his miscues.

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    I'm honestly not as worried as most. Yes, TP is a big blow, but Spurs have guys who are very capable and very thirsty ( Simmons/Murray).

    I think the team is still confident they can get it done and I think this loss isn't a death blow like it would be if they lost Kawhi.

    If Pop keeps going small w/ Kawhi at the 4 for atleast half the game, I like the Spurs to still win this series. Spurs have the players capable of stepping up.
    I would sure like to believe, but I am afraid I don't. But good for you, friend!


    However, I will be cheering them on as usual.

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    Sucks. Get well TP9.Paging Murray on line 3.........
    More like Line 1 on the red telephone!

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    I would bench Ginobili if we are going to be pot stirring and talking about guys not scoring. Start Patty.
    And to me, a bench of Simmons Murray Kyle and Bertans has no problem scoring whatsoever and they have good chemistry. You throw Manu in there and he's ball dominant, will want the ball for less efficiency shots than everyone else and to feel useful and like he's helping when in reality these guys have been fine when he's sitting. I am sure trolls are going to be out, but it's the truth.

    This is unlikely to happen but consider that without his partner in Mills, Ginobili at this stage won't be the same. The roles have reversed. It wouldn't even surprise me if someone else but a Mills starts not bc of Mills but due to this factor.
    Kyle is a terrible matchup in this series, not sure why you continue to have a hard on for him to get used like a turn style.

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    I'm honestly not as worried as most. Yes, TP is a big blow, but Spurs have guys who are very capable and very thirsty ( Simmons/Murray).

    I think the team is still confident they can get it done and I think this loss isn't a death blow like it would be if they lost Kawhi.

    If Pop keeps going small w/ Kawhi at the 4 for atleast half the game, I like the Spurs to still win this series. Spurs have the players capable of stepping up.
    against houston, i think this is possible but all bets are off if we advance to the WCF.

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