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    The CP3 rumors scare me. He would be the wrong FA signing at the wrong time. We desperately need to get Kawhi a longer-term running buddy. This may not be the year to make that happen. If not, then be patient and use the cap space many expect in 2018 for that guy. I can just see a ball-dominant, uber-alpha-mentality CP3 ignoring Kawhi to a greater extent than many accuse Tony of having done this last season. Besides, he is just too old.

    Unfortunately,,as you noted, signing CP3 would fit PATFO's recent MO.
    I am unsure if that is who they want, but he's out there and there are rumors. There are others they could go after too. It will depend, as others have stated in multiple other threads, in how they feel about Lamarcus (and Pau to a lesser extent) moving forward. I wasn't originally claiming for Lamarcus to be traded, but frankly I don't care much for him right now. If Tony hadn't stepped up in the first round they would have gone home early with notably no one else stepping up to help Kawhi out. People forget that was Pau has been very erratic too, and at times very inefficient as well.. Manu is retiring, Tony might miss the entire season and/or maybe come back at half speed. (lets not forget Mills, a younger guy, came back from a shoulder surgery and wasn't the same guy until a full season after. Rehab takes a whole lot of time and my expectations for Tony are not good, being older, and a different kind of injury etc.) The point is, I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs shake this roster up a bunch. In a way, I know they are very conservative, but in another, there is no longer the big 3, but the big one and Pop has to do something to get him help immediately.... not someone who looks promising to help 2 years from now. It's great to have guys like that but they also want to contend right now. I am still kind of split about this.

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    no one is hating on you tbh, i made a simple point and your massive pussy started bleeding like always. i had been pretty cordial also and all of a sudden you can't articulate your point so you start calling people gots when no one insulted you to begin with you dont have haters, there's just a lot of posters who realize you're a dip who can't have a legit discussion without being stupid, not hard to understand imo

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    what uganda do about it? Joseph Kony's Avatar
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    lol cant make any point so tries to pass it off as being too knowledgeable...thanks for conceding victory got another ST taking that footlong kony in their ass.

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    lol cant make any point so tries to pass it off as being too knowledgeable...thanks for conceding victory got another ST taking that footlong kony in their ass.
    You lost 10 posts up. WTF are on about?

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    No one is arguing that Patty is inconsistent because of his FG%

    Overall, he's a very efficient player. That doesn't mean he's very consistent.

    Player A goes 8/10 from deep one game, 1/5 in the next game, and then 1/5 after that. Overall he shot 50% from 3, but he was pretty inconsistent.

    Player B goes 4/10 one game, 2/5 the next game, and 2/5 the game after that. Overall he shot 40% from 3. Worse than Player A - but definitely more consistent.

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    No one is arguing that Patty is inconsistent because of his FG%

    Overall, he's a very efficient player. That doesn't mean he's very consistent.

    Player A goes 8/10 from deep one game, 1/5 in the next game, and then 1/5 after that. Overall he shot 50% from 3, but he was pretty inconsistent.

    Player B goes 4/10 one game, 2/5 the next game, and 2/5 the game after that. Overall he shot 40% from 3. Worse than Player A - but definitely more consistent.
    I'm just gonna drop the argument but atleast some people understand the value of TS%.

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    Patty shot above 50%TS from for 6 games and below 50%TS in 2 games. We lost one of those. games. That's just 3 point shooting. I say that's consistent for a basketball player.

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    Patty won't ever start full time for a compe ive team. It's too easy to trap.

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    I'm still trying to figure out if people expect Patty to shoot 50% from threes every game.

    MVP srs.

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    If Spurs overpay a 6ft sg to be the starting pg

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    Daboom is ESPN levels of bad.

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    Daboom is ESPN levels of bad.
    What part do you disagree with, got?

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    Breakdown of Mills's TS% this year. Let's assume <50 TS% = ty, 50-55 TS% = mediocre, 56-60 TS% = good, 60+ TS% = great.

    <50 TS% = 29 games
    50-55 TS% = 5 games
    56-60 TS% = 10 games
    60+ TS% = 36 games

    Seems to back up what we've been arguing, tbh...

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    Breakdown of Mills's TS% this year. Let's assume <50 TS% = ty, 50-55 TS% = mediocre, 56-60 TS% = good, 60+ TS% = great.

    <50 TS% = 29 games
    50-55 TS% = 5 games
    56-60 TS% = 10 games
    60+ TS% = 36 games

    Seems to back up what we've been arguing, tbh...
    We talking about the Regular Season in the Playoffs? Ok, got.

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    Let me just tell you, NO ONE gives a about your Shooting splits in the Regular Season if you suck in the Playoffs. Just stop dude.

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    Let me just tell you, NO ONE gives a about your Shooting splits in the Regular Season if you suck in the Playoffs. Just stop dude.
    So you don't care at all about Tony's regular season play? You'd still consider him the 2nd best player on the Spurs, since that's what he played like during these playoffs?

    Interesting.

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    Lol....

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    I am unsure if that is who they want, but he's out there and there are rumors. There are others they could go after too. It will depend, as others have stated in multiple other threads, in how they feel about Lamarcus (and Pau to a lesser extent) moving forward. I wasn't originally claiming for Lamarcus to be traded, but frankly I don't care much for him right now. If Tony hadn't stepped up in the first round they would have gone home early with notably no one else stepping up to help Kawhi out. People forget that was Pau has been very erratic too, and at times very inefficient as well.. Manu is retiring, Tony might miss the entire season and/or maybe come back at half speed. (lets not forget Mills, a younger guy, came back from a shoulder surgery and wasn't the same guy until a full season after. Rehab takes a whole lot of time and my expectations for Tony are not good, being older, and a different kind of injury etc.) The point is, I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs shake this roster up a bunch. In a way, I know they are very conservative, but in another, there is no longer the big 3, but the big one and Pop has to do something to get him help immediately.... not someone who looks promising to help 2 years from now. It's great to have guys like that but they also want to contend right now. I am still kind of split about this.
    I wouldn't worry about it. To have a chance to get Paul, they'd have to . . .

    - Salary dump Parker. The only chance to pull that off, would probably be attaching a future 1st. If he doesn't want to play for anyone else, he could use the entire season to recover, then re-sign the following off season.

    - Salary dump Gasol. They'd want to do right by him. I don't know if he'd have interest in the Timberwolves, but unlike the Trail Blazers and Raptors, I could see them still having interest in him. Also, they have enough cap space to fit his salary without having to send any back.

    - At that point, they could offer Paul the max and with another minor move (avert your eyes . . . salary dumping Anderson for one of the Magic's high 2nds, for example), they could potentially re-sign Dedmon with cap space, then target a third wing and big with the MLE and BAE, respectively.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not happening.

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    So you don't care at all about Tony's regular season play? You'd still consider him the 2nd best player on the Spurs, since that's what he played like during these playoffs?

    Interesting.
    We'll its funny to add that Parker always played worse in the playoffs comparing to his RS. Patty seems to play better for comparison.

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    I wouldn't worry about it. To have a chance to get Paul, they'd have to . . .

    - Salary dump Parker. The only chance to pull that off, would probably be attaching a future 1st. If he doesn't want to play for anyone else, he could use the entire season to recover, then re-sign the following off season.

    - Salary dump Gasol. They'd want to do right by him. I don't know if he'd have interest in the Timberwolves, but unlike the Trail Blazers and Raptors, I could see them still having interest in him. Also, they have enough cap space to fit his salary without having to send any back.

    - At that point, they could offer Paul the max and with another minor move (avert your eyes . . . salary dumping Anderson for one of the Magic's high 2nds, for example), they could potentially re-sign Dedmon with cap space, then target a third wing and big with the MLE and BAE, respectively.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not happening.
    You make some good points and I thank you for this feedback.

    I am not really opposed to salary dump anderson if it will improve the team bc they are going to make drastic changes. I see your point clearly and I think if they have some move in n mind he could be gone easily, like Boris, like Tiago, like CoJo who signed elsewhere, Baynes, etc. They have chosen to stand pat though and in that context he has given value but if they shake the roster, some roleplayers (and alleged "stars" who are playing like roleplayers) will become loose and be shed. It might even be better for him, specifically.

    Anyways, you make some good points. I frankly want to see them make a move to improve this roster. I think I am more in the camp against standing pat at this point. I mean the postseason isn't over and there are players who can still step up... so we shall see. But I haven't forgotten that they got this far on Kawhi's back and Tony's and Tony is "gone" next season(injured, questionable on his timing and the state of his play if/when he returns).

    I also originally thought the time to make their move was 2018 based on apparent planification and scheduling of contracts by the front office, but the old players they decided to pay are falling off at an alarming rate.

    None of this has anything to do with Mills, but he might be a casualty of a move for a "star" like CoJo was a casualty in 2015 for example. Again, I am really split on this. Deep down I tend to think they stand pat, but there is very little upside and a lot of downside to what they are doing right nown(unless Dijon really is the Kraken ). That is why I sympathize with Manu4tres in a way. I just think (unlike him) that a long term plan that consists of waiting for draft picks to develop to contribute for real 2 to 3 years from now is not something Spurs have in mind or can afford to embark on, or they should have started that this current season... maybe even the last one.
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    good locker room guy. I say keep

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    Pay Mills and start him

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    Not a starting PG for a contender ..Has a terrible game-management feel and actually a bit of "Hero" in him that Tony get often accused of.. Dude nearly chucked us out of it in 3rd Q..

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    3-13 tonight. Thankfully he hit that late garbage time shot and went 4-14

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    Big 3 f/t tbh. On the back of a 3. Little General front and centa when the cavalry were charging at us. If he grew his hair out speertalkers be thinking he Conley tbh.......

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