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    Not a starting PG for a contender ..Has a terrible game-management feel and actually a bit of "Hero" in him that Tony get often accused of.. Dude nearly chucked us out of it in 3rd Q..
    good bench microwave .. should get paid at a microwave rate.
    Still unpredictable if they reup him bc you never know what other GMs have in mind.
    Simmons making a push to get paid too. Folks who think he's signing a 1 and 1

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    Bryn Forbes salivating at the mouth

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    good bench microwave .. should get paid at a microwave rate.
    Still unpredictable if they reup him bc you never know what other GMs have in mind.
    Simmons making a push to get paid too. Folks who think he's signing a 1 and 1
    I would root for him to get paid elsewhere, he is just not a starting caliber PG for an aspiring contender..Even decrepit Parker still miles ahead as far as controlling the tempo and getting players in their offensive sets..

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    good bench microwave .. should get paid at a microwave rate.
    Still unpredictable if they reup him bc you never know what other GMs have in mind.
    Simmons making a push to get paid too. Folks who think he's signing a 1 and 1
    Folks said 1+1 deal based on likely hood of him not breaking out like he has this playoff run. Which was reasonable considering Pops tight leash and DNPs he had on him late in the year.

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    Folks said 1+1 deal based on likely hood of him not breaking out like he has this playoff run. Which was reasonable considering Pops tight leash and DNPs he had on him late in the year.
    I know as well as his inconsistency (which you mentioned and and I agree with) but dude is streaky and it was always a possibility that he would have that one game... now with Tony out and Manu being done he's got more chances and making the most of it... which I thought was a likely possibility (not the Tony part but Manu being done). He could be reupped but it will be market price within reason IMO. It's a legit non troll question who d you prioritize if the two.

    again I am still unsure about any offseason moves to alter the roster dramatically but it still is a possibility.

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    Look, I'm going to shut up and not even talk about Patty's off-season situation. He just simply needs to play much better, right now. The Spurs need him to play better. I believe he can do it.

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    Yeah..Mills game managing is awful.

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    Yeah..Mills game managing is awful.
    Would be a terrible idea to overpay him in the summer..With Parker out early next season, Murray, a vet pick up and Point Kawhi should run the show


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    Would be a terrible idea to overpay him in the summer..With Parker out early next season, Murray, a vet pick up and Point Kawhi should run the show

    The chart makes sense because Leonnard can penetrate and create openings. The only offense Mills runs is ty aldridge post ups or he puts kawhi in one in one Situation.

    But he's obviously a fantastic offballl player.

    Lets just hope Murray is better next game in his inevitable 12-15mpg gametime.

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    If they can have him at around MLE money or a bit more than that, then go ahead. But if not, Kawhi deserves better players around him if they would be getting a very fat contract.

    What about Deron Williams at vet minimum next summer ? Him backing up Dijon should be decent & nice short term solution, while freeing money to spent elsewhere. Parker is done & should be retiring, as much as i love the guy, ever. Might have to consider a rebuilding on the fly by letting LMA go if this play off yields another disappointing result from him.

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    At 5 mil or less he would be a nice bridge til Spurs can get Murray/Forbes up to speed.

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    Pay the man.

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    At 5 mil or less he would be a nice bridge til Spurs can get Murray/Forbes up to speed.

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    I wouldn't worry about it. To have a chance to get Paul, they'd have to . . .

    - Salary dump Parker. The only chance to pull that off, would probably be attaching a future 1st. If he doesn't want to play for anyone else, he could use the entire season to recover, then re-sign the following off season.

    - Salary dump Gasol. They'd want to do right by him. I don't know if he'd have interest in the Timberwolves, but unlike the Trail Blazers and Raptors, I could see them still having interest in him. Also, they have enough cap space to fit his salary without having to send any back.

    - At that point, they could offer Paul the max and with another minor move (avert your eyes . . . salary dumping Anderson for one of the Magic's high 2nds, for example), they could potentially re-sign Dedmon with cap space, then target a third wing and big with the MLE and BAE, respectively.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not happening.

    The Spurs are going to go after Paul. Will they succeed at doing so is a different story though but the things you've listed could easily happen and another option you haven't listed is trading LMA..

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    At 5 mil or less he would be a nice bridge til Spurs can get Murray/Forbes up to speed.
    Heh
    that article mentioned that right after the finals in 2014 the knicks were ready to give him a 2 year deal at $18 mill. (That was 3 years ago and before the inflation created by the TV deals the past couple of seasons.)
    Mills is going to get paid. Make no mistale about it $5 mill a year is not going to be enough.

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    You make some good points and I thank you for this feedback.

    None of this has anything to do with Mills, but he might be a casualty of a move for a "star" like CoJo was a casualty in 2015 for example.
    No problem.

    I suspect Mills only isn't re-signed if they prioritize Hill over him and they might. He'd be a better stop gap starter until hopefully Murray is ready in a few seasons and he can play with alongside him and Parker on both sides of the ball.


    The Spurs are going to go after Paul. Will they succeed at doing so is a different story though but the things you've listed could easily happen and another option you haven't listed is trading LMA..
    They probably will have a meeting, but as I and others have alluded to, realistically it's going to be nearly impossible to offer Paul the max unless Aldridge is traded with very little salary coming back and despite his subpar season, that would only lessen the appeal of leaving L.A. and $40-50M on the table.

    Hill is a more realistic target, if what Marks of the Vertical, claims is true: "Hill should see his pay double from his current $8 million salary". If they project him being in that range, it's conceivable they could make a compe ive offer without gutting the roster.

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    Yeah, we're not gonna find a starting PG. Paul is not coming and Murray probably isn't gonna be ready to be a good backup yet alone a starter.

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    Heh
    that article mentioned that right after the finals in 2014 the knicks were ready to give him a 2 year deal at $18 mill. (That was 3 years ago and before the inflation created by the TV deals the past couple of seasons.)
    Mills is going to get paid. Make no mistale about it $5 mill a year is not going to be enough.
    Yeah I know. Just like seeing the Aussie crowd get defensive. Mills is a keeper but Spurs gonna need some help there.

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    I have no idea what the right moves are. It's a tough situation. I'm really wondering if Pop is trying to get by without using Dedmon to keep his value down, tbh.

    Patty is a good player and I'd love to have him back, but paying him 14+ (Parker money) doesn't seem like a good move. Really need to go get an impact player before we waste Kawhi's prime years. If Pau opts in and PATFO is unable to dump his salary, our hands are probably tied.

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    I have no idea what the right moves are. It's a tough situation. I'm really wondering if Pop is trying to get by without using Dedmon to keep his value down, tbh.

    Patty is a good player and I'd love to have him back, but paying him 14+ (Parker money) doesn't seem like a good move. Really need to go get an impact player before we waste Kawhi's prime years. If Pau opts in and PATFO is unable to dump his salary, our hands are probably tied.
    Pop would never harm the team's chances by not playing a player for financial reasons. Dedmon isn't very good, He is inept on offense, and even on defense he's a foul machine.

    I hope Pau opts in tbh.

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    We all don't know who will be Spurs starting PG next yr.
    It will be Chris Paul. That means a lot of roster changes to make room for his salary.

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    I hope Pau opts in tbh.
    Im in!

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