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    Lost in all the justifiable gloom about the KL injury and the loss is that Murray is developing quickly and looks like he has no fear of the moment. Yeah, he made some mistakes, but this kid's going to be good very soon.

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    I like what I see from him so far

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    Goes to the rim with ease, nice tear drop and moves good for a rookie, I guess we will see plenty of him during game 2.

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    Realistically, I'm looking ahead to the future. This deflating loss will most likely lead to a sweep. If things play out as they should, Spurs get blown out in Game 2 (I'll say 28 points), lose by 15 in Game 3 and about 7 in Game 4. They aren't mentally ready to win. They don't believe they can win. They lost their composure out there today. You could see it on Manu's face. He knows this loss is going to crush any thought or belief they had of winning this series. They have now blown back to back 25 point leads to the Dubs. Ridiculous.

    I want to see Murray get more minutes out there. He screwed up but he also made some things happen.

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    Definitely.
    I wanted to see him out there more.
    Obviously Pop super strict over mistakes.. but when you realize how many mistakes were made by others, specially JSimms... I thought some more Murray couldn't have hurt.

    I don't know what happens with Kawhi's ankle, hopefully he's back on his feet soon and we can erase this demoralizing meltdown of a loss by our team out of our mind, but if he's not, I'd play Murray more.

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    This is the series that Pau and Lamarcus need to assert themselves on the boards and in the paint. Pau is playing like and not giving the team anything.

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    Boy's always been a stud. He isn't afraid. Future is bright.

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    Lost in all the justifiable gloom about the KL injury and the loss is that Murray is developing quickly and looks like he has no fear of the moment. Yeah, he made some mistakes, but this kid's going to be good very soon.

    That's a damn good thread.

    Murry looked exactly fearless. There aren't many rookies who could have dealt with this kind of pressure as well. Yes, the defense gets the best of him sometimes, but he never hangs his head, and he never plays hesitantly. As far as I'm concerned, he's already good.

    He's going to be a very good addition to Kawhi Leonard.

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    Right now it's about treading water until summer of 2018 when the Spurs will have one of the cleanest cap situations in a league full of bad contracts. If there's a le between now and then, it'd be amazing but unexpected. By 2018, Warriors will lose key role players and Lebron will be even older. No guarantee of any other team ascending.

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    I would start him if Mills continues to the bed in this series..Golden State own Paddy soul since Livingston got there....

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    Realistically, I'm looking ahead to the future. This deflating loss will most likely lead to a sweep. If things play out as they should, Spurs get blown out in Game 2 (I'll say 28 points), lose by 15 in Game 3 and about 7 in Game 4. They aren't mentally ready to win. They don't believe they can win. They lost their composure out there today. You could see it on Manu's face. He knows this loss is going to crush any thought or belief they had of winning this series. They have now blown back to back 25 point leads to the Dubs. Ridiculous.

    I want to see Murray get more minutes out there. He screwed up but he also made some things happen.

    With respect, they lost their starting PG, and THEN they lost the best player on either team. And let's not forget that Kawhi is still arguably the best defender in the league, and the Spurs were getting the job done with defense. That's probably more important to what happened than losing his offense.

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    Aside from Murray's first shot, (an air ball, maybe due to the situation) he def seemed fearless attacking which is good.

    Beverely pressured him and got him out of sorts. GS will try and do the same, so hopefully he's ready for that. Especially when Patty is struggling from 3, if Murray could be a guy to come in and generate points, it would obviously be a big help.

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    Right now it's about treading water until summer of 2018 when the Spurs will have one of the cleanest cap situations in a league full of bad contracts. If there's a le between now and then, it'd be amazing but unexpected. By 2018, Warriors will lose key role players and Lebron will be even older. No guarantee of any other team ascending.
    Was this your thought process before Kawhi went out?

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    like a dog that ate tensil on Christmas, there is a silver lining in this steaming pile of dog and it's Murray

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    also, he didn't go 0-6 from 3

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    He's got promise. This trial by fire is the absolute best thing that could ever happen to his career. Imagine instead he's in Philly, no one ever hears of him. Right now he's probably 100% committed to improvement, no partying, nothing.

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    also, he didn't go 0-6 from 3

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    Happens all the time in the NBA. Nothing unusual.

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    Right now it's about treading water until summer of 2018 when the Spurs will have one of the cleanest cap situations in a league full of bad contracts. If there's a le between now and then, it'd be amazing but unexpected. By 2018, Warriors will lose key role players and Lebron will be even older. No guarantee of any other team ascending.
    I don't know about that. There's a good chance Mills is re-signed and the MLE will be spent, it's just a question of Dedmon or failing that someone(s) else. Simmons, who knows? Let's say Mills gets $10-12M, MLE is 8.4M and if retained, Simmons costs in that neighborhood too. That's $25+ M added to the '18 payroll and that doesn't even factor in Green and Aldridge more than likely opting out and seeking raises in '18, as well as extensions for Bertans and probably Anderson, too.

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    I think he needs to learn how to shoot 3's and he'll be unstoppable. Right now teams can just give him the rondo treatment.

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    this is why it's frustrating pop didn't make more of an effort to get him minutes in inconsequential regular season games

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    He looks pretty scared of the three point line tbh

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    I love this kid. Give him 25+ minutes/game next year and live with the results like we did with Parker.

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    He looks pretty scared of the three point line tbh
    Well at least he's not an idiot jacking up 3s if he knows he's not a good/great shooter yet. I call that smart. As long as he takes wide open ones, I'm OK with him being smart to drive the ball instead. He knows he can get to the rim, so he's doing that rather than taking 3s even if they are a little bit open.

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    I love this kid. Gonna be special for sure. When KD leaves GS, the window is gonna open right back up for us, tbh.

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    Was this your thought process before Kawhi went out?
    Yes, been my thought process since Durant signed in GS. If you somehow win, great. But no reason to throw in all the chips from a roster construction perspective that hurt you in the long term.

    Did not mean it in terms of the effort on the floor. Two totally different concepts. No different than how the Celtics didn't cash in their future assets but are still trying to compete this year (except Spurs are a much more real contender).

    I don't know about that. There's a good chance Mills is re-signed and the MLE will be spent, it's just a question of Dedmon or failing that someone(s) else. Simmons, who knows? Let's say Mills gets $10-12M, MLE is 8.4M and if retained, Simmons costs in that neighborhood too. That's $25+ M added to the '18 payroll and that doesn't even factor in Green and Aldridge more than likely opting out and seeking raises in '18, as well as extensions for Bertans and probably Anderson, too.
    The artificially high Ginobili figure comes way down and Parker/Gasol are almost $30mm of expiring deals. Green and Aldridge almost certainly opt out but you maintain Bird rights and can likely fit in one other piece in summer of 2018. I do agree though that the best move is to stay pat and keep everyone you can. Mills and Simmons can't be replaced for just the MLE which is all Spurs will have, so need to try running it back. As long as there are no bad deals, there's always flexibility to move guys out for 2018 cap space.

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