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We all know the kings are dumb as . They have picks 5 and 10. You put the 5th pick with LA you could arguably contend for the 8th spot which would thrill kings fans. Wonder if they're dumb enough to take LA for pick 10.
Totally agree. He knows he's not about that life.
We all know the kings are dumb as . They have picks 5 and 10. You put the 5th pick with LA you could arguably contend for the 8th spot which would thrill kings fans. Wonder if they're dumb enough to take LA for pick 10.
if what happened this year in playoffs happened last year, I would have made the move of trading LA for Boogie, the Kings as stated were/are dumb enough to do it and it would have been better for them than what they got for Boogie. I am done with Bigs that can't/won't post up, so I will beat the drums for a Lamarcus for DeMarcus trade with the Pelicans. Hopefully the Brow will want Boogie gone. This time last year I hadn't given up on LMA yet but now I am feeling different. I want a killer to pair with Kiwi and LMA is not that, Boogie is an undisciplined one but maybe it is easier to teach a killer to be disciplined than it is to teach a player without the killer instinct to have it. Long story short it might be better to have the 'scarecrow' on your team instead of the 'tin woodsmen or cowardly lion'. It might be easier to get a player to play smarter than it is to give a player heart or courage.
I doubt you can do ANY of those things with a mature player like LMA. He has never been to a WCF before, and I doubt he ever will again. For him to play with his lack of determination is just unbelievable.
If the Spurs get swept and even if they don't unless Aldridge steps up huge this series he will probably be traded this summer. Definitely in Pop's doghouse now after this series, it has exposed him as a player.
"Jon was in a category by himself, the others were in the other category"
^ Pop has given a number of interviews to my recollection where he has admitted you can't change who people are. That he can't make a player be compe ive if he's not, and that he can't make someone play team ball if he's selfish. He has also said things like he doesn't know if court vision can be coached, some players just have a natural affinity for that part of the game etc. Definitely compe ive desire doesn't seem something he can coach into someone. I think he's tried different things with Lma (and Pau)... things like that speech that players need to do their jobs and come to play. that if a doctor or plumber or whomever doesn't do their job, they stop having a job, etc. I think Pop has been outspoken (without naming anyone specifically) about this.
I suspect he's tried any number of things and gotten the result he's gotten.
Thats why I think pop is done with this dude. He's bipolar. You don't know if he's got your back in the bunker, or will just curl up and cry when shots are fired, because he actually does both. It's not knowing which one your gonna get that is the most frustrating part because you can't game plan for either one.
All season long and especially now.
Pop strategizing like a re in Game 2.
How the was he muscling those players in the paint, getting position, and he is unable to move against Gaymond, Anderson, Harden, etc
Duncan had pop spoiled. No way does Duncan come out with no heart like that.
#FAKENEWS
Yes, boiled down to it.
However, what we don't see is the games and film sessions and private conversations with the coaching staff where Pop says LMA has to be a center now, has to post up, has to keep Kawhi involved, has to play differently.
I'm not defending LMA, but you can see him distancing himself from the organization every game. He was brought in to be a franchise level player, but he was instead relegated to a Tiago Splitter with a jumpshot. He was an all star in Portland, could put up 30 and 15 each night if needed, but in SA he's getting 15 and 9 with excursions into the mid 20's while KL is putting up 30 a night sometimes. LMA could have had that with Lillard, DID have that with Lillard.
Big men need to accept they either bang hard underneath or they have a good 3pt shot and defend like crazy. LMA is a midrange shooter who purports to decide before games how he's going to play. He needs to play the same way every night, just take what the defense gives, no preconceived notions but I think Pop's system is too cerebral for him.
Against Houston and Dwight Howard. Not really that impressive but his moves were good. What you don't see there is the help side defender overcommitting to force LMA to put the ball on the floor or pass it. Instead the help defense is setting up just beyond the restricted area and waiting for LMA to arrive. He doesn't need to go that far, he can just up and under with a flip shot. Now defenses know to just pressure him from both sides and he'll either turn it over or pass out of it. Unlike then, there's no Lillard or other great shooter to pass to. It's Kyle Anderson, John Simmons, Murray, Manu, Deadmom and Midget Mills.
I think this team doesn't use bigs the right way. Other than Tim and David, and even David is questionable since no one should have been able to shut him down. What other big was used in the right way? Boban would be beasting out there, 40 rebounds a game.
Uz he is worse than that, I could live with his coming out playing the "soft wuss, can't catch a ball, only shoot fade always uninspired self" 50% of the time if the other half of the time he was that dude (monster) that lit up the Thunder those first 2 games of the playoffs last year. The problem is we only get that dude 10 games max a year, and that is not a good trade off. If we got it half of the time I would just consider him coin toss that averages out and half a monster is a good #3 option. A 10% monster is more like a player that has a fluky game every so often.
You'll get no argument from me.
My main point is I think pop is done him too, and will do everything in his power to get him off the team. Not saying it's going to happen because of the contact and cap situation. But they'll sure as try.
His start in game 1 was really good. Deep catches and pivot and hooks over Draymond. But then he just goes into his s again.
You saw that too! The biggest thing that stood out to me was that he looked engaged on the floor. Was ready for the ball, wanted to do something with it when he got it. He wasn't doubled in those clips so maybe that's where his struggles are starting. But still, he doesn't look like he even cares. He's in the WCF finals for the first time in his career and he doesn't look like he gives a . Patty surprised me too. Dude is a shooter and needs to be shooting the ball. He's not a point guard and that experiment needs to be over. The Spurs just don't have many other options.
Yah, his mind is elsewhere. It's sad actually. I confess that I was stoked when he chose to play for SA. I was at a BBQ w/ family and friends and started jumping when the news became viral on Twitter. I remember that I drank so much and I had so much fun that day. But nowadays when I think of LMA it's really sad tbh hahahaha.
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Danny does not compete when things are out of hand. Its annoying.
I don't even want to talk about Aldridge. He needs to play great every single game from here on out for me to even not want to kick his ass.
Demarcus Cousins IMO would have had 40 points in game 2 with Kawhi out. I wanted to try and trade Aldridge for him badly when the Kings had decided they wanted to trade him. Not many here were even remotely interested. I think Chillen was, but I don't recall many others. It would have been a killer Kobe Shaq like pairing IMO. Demarcus also was/is a huge Kawhi fan, so I think he would have been good here. I don't know why the Spurs didn't try.
Ice if his chemistry isn't good with the Brow early next year, he will be on the trading block and we should make it happen. LMA would like playing with AD, it might work. I am disgusted with Bigs that don't post up, Boogie would make us a super power again,
Well in that case, I hope their chemistry is pure crap. It'd be ideal for the Spurs to try and get him in the off-season, but I doubt NO would be interested until they see how it works between Cousins and AD to start next season. Still, not sure if the Spurs would want to wait that long. I guess it depends on how LMA plays the rest of these playoffs from here on out.
hey if that is the case I would be more than happy to throw Pau in as well once he opts back in (groan), or whatever sweetner it takes, there are only a few untouchables if it means Boogie. Pop won't do Tony or Manu, of course not Kiwi and we don't control Juice. Most of the rest I have no problem losing and while I like Davis, let's get serious we are talking about Boogie.
** I agree with 95% of what you spoke.. I think this team just lacks simple players with playmaking ability off the dribble.. As I have watched all season and mentioned multiple times from commentators like ( JVG , Jalen Rose, Reggie Miller ) they have no one that can create their own shot, all need to be setup to take a shot.. Spurs have to play a certain way this season because of that, and is why you see the ball so dominated by KL... Once that issue is addressed I think you will see SPURS playin the 2015 way again..
When you only have Patty Mills, KL & JSIMMS as your only players that can do that, your in trouble.. And PM & JSIMMS come off the bench.
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