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    Desperate Parker fan attempt.
    Remind me, why an injured 34 y/o player, that was the most rested player on the team and couldn't handle 8 playoff games is untradeable when we are not even sure when and how he will come back at 35 or 36?
    Would you rather have a warrior that gets hurt as he ages or a player that has no sack even when 100% healthy? See I prefer the guy that when he can go...will, to the player that can't go...period. I am a Parker fan but if he played as badly as the Microwave or worse yet LMA in these playoffs I wouldn't be out here saying this. At best all I could say was at least hid did something back in the day, but truthfully I wouldn't even say that. I would lay low and lurk until Tony showed signs of life again tbh. I would rather have a sometimes injured TP over a Harden or LMA any day of the week.

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    add Manu for a last year, Murray, Dedmon and Simmons and you good.. the rest can go elsewhere

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    Not a fan of Deadman at all. Hope he leaves. I don't want my starting Center to average 5pts, 6reb and less than a block a game. what the advanced stats say, those same numbers love Gasol as a defender as well.

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    Kawhi and Simmons. Only two that GAF. Erybody wise is expendable. Gasol and LMA need to be gone now.

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    add Manu for a last year, Murray, Dedmon and Simmons and you good.. the rest can go elsewhere
    Brazil no doubt, way to early to throw in the towel on Dijon or Dewayne and I like the Juice's potential but the rest can go pound sand after KingSlayer and MVParker, and Manu if he wants to come back for less salary. Though not worth what we are paying him I don't have a problem with LMA IF he was only making like 10-12 million a year and was the 4th scoring option, he does some things on defense but just isn't even a real #2 guy but if he is your #3 or #4 that isn't that bad. But you can't pay that #4 guy the max.

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    add Manu for a last year
    Add him to what? The museum of mummificated bodies?

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    for the vet minimum, who cares? but otherwise it might be time to say goodbye.

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    Last nights game doesn't show me a 2-man team.. Showed me a 1-man team... And he is the MAN and is the next Lebron.. I think you can put him on any TEAM and they can make the playoffs.... The Fake#12 doesn't have Enough hunger & fight to be the number #2 on this team.. He really needs to show he wants it, and I haven't seen it.

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    Add him to what? The museum of mummificated bodies?
    ....

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    ing mummy is the reason we're in the WCF, tbh... after blocking Frauden and sucking up his soul all in one play...

    Really tells you what our #2 is made of, tbh...

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    I think you forgot the Juice.

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    The point is the Spurs have 2 alpha killers on the team (the just nearing his prime KingSlayer and the sometimes injured declining MVParker), one that used to be a killer but is aging out (Manu) and three young pups who may one day become killers and have potential (Davis, Dijon and the Juice) a decent enough for the right price role player (Dewayne). The rest of the team is replaceable and should be replaced if possible.

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    The point is the Spurs have 2 alpha killers on the team (the just nearing his prime KingSlayer and the sometimes injured declining MVParker), one that used to be a killer but is aging out (Manu) and three young pups who may one day become killers and have potential (Davis, Dijon and the Juice) a decent enough for the right price role player (Dewayne). The rest of the team is replaceable and should be replaced if possible.
    You just can't replace everyone at the same time, it's not possible in the NBA or you will end up with worse off players bc you will have to bargain bin shop a big deal and you don't need everyone in your team to be a killer. And there are seldom killers in bargain bins... once in a blue moon maybe and Spurs got their blue moon with Simms maybe.

    There are spots for roleplayers in any team the problem is who you name killers in this team are really not right now.
    Only Kawhi is.
    Tony is injured and killer though he was might be done.
    manu is nearly done. was a serial "killer" in his day. To ask him to be that right now is too much. He may show up once every 3 or 4 games.
    Davis and Dijon don't belong there. They just don't. They are "potential" guys... in cheap contracts and young, worth keeping, but they are not killers in this team.
    Juice may be... but it's a very small sample size we have. He hasn't been killing in the NBA on the regular. For "potential" for him to repeat that regularly he could be worth keeping, specially bc this team is currently lacking in their prime Killers outside Kiwi.
    Dewayne is hardly a rotation player at this point in the playoffs. He's a mixed bag of mistakes. He plays with energy and competes but he's no better than Dijon and Davis, and Anderson or any prospect and he's 28. I don't know how much more he can improve... but I would like him back. I would focus him on just limiting mistakes. Same thing Pop did with Simmons initially ... b4 going any further with their games try to limit mistakes etc... then see where that gets you. Worth finding out where it gets him on a cheap deal... we don't know if he's going to come back cheap.

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    You just can't replace everyone at the same time, it's not possible in the NBA or you will end up with worse off players bc you will have to bargain bin shop a big deal and you don't need everyone in your team to be a killer. And there are seldom killers in bargain bins... once in a blue moon maybe and Spurs got their blue moon with Simms maybe.

    There are spots for roleplayers in any team the problem is who you name killers in this team are really not right now.
    Only Kawhi is.
    Tony is injured and killer though he was might be done.
    manu is nearly done. was a serial "killer" in his day. To ask him to be that right now is too much. He may show up once every 3 or 4 games.
    Davis and Dijon don't belong there. They just don't. They are "potential" guys... in cheap contracts and young, worth keeping, but they are not killers in this team.
    Juice may be... but it's a very small sample size we have. He hasn't been killing in the NBA on the regular. For "potential" for him to repeat that regularly he could be worth keeping, specially bc this team is currently lacking in their prime Killers outside Kiwi.
    Dewayne is hardly a rotation player at this point in the playoffs. He's a mixed bag of mistakes. He plays with energy and competes but he's no better than Dijon and Davis, and Anderson or any prospect and he's 28. I don't know how much more he can improve... but I would like him back. I would focus him on just limiting mistakes. Same thing Pop did with Simmons initially ... b4 going any further with their games try to limit mistakes etc... then see where that gets you. Worth finding out where it gets him on a cheap deal... we don't know if he's going to come back cheap.
    I don't know whom at the moment or in the offseason will be available, but 1 of the biggest flaws I see with this team is a utter lack of creators on this team. Someone that can create his own shot off the dribble I see only Patty Mill, JSIMMS, Khawi as the only ones. Everyone else needs to be setup.

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    I don't know whom at the moment or in the offseason will be available, but 1 of the biggest flaws I see with this team is a utter lack of creators on this team. Someone that can create his own shot off the dribble I see only Patty Mill, JSIMMS, Khawi as the only ones. Everyone else needs to be setup.
    Patty Mills can't in reality create for himself or others. He can come off a screen gunning and that hasn't gone well for him in the playoffs. He can make an open shot if someone else sets him up.
    though Dabom makes a lot of noise about Patty he was terrible in the last playoffs too, specially against OKC. I don't deem him a playoff killer until proven otherwise.

    Jsimms like I said it might be just him getting hot at the right time or the real deal we don't know really. Too small a sample size but so far so good.
    Kawhi is the real only one.

    You ride Jsimms for as far as he will take you with Kiwi if he comes back and see what the others can give you. Spurs paid a lot for their frontcourt. That is how they decided to build up their team.

    I think Murray has talent but it's probably a year or two away, he's too terrible a shooter/inefficient scorer at this point. He has the right mindset but he also had that in college and the same inefficiencies and lack of shooting and that is whey he went 29 and not in the lottery. Anyways, Bertans needs shots created for him at this point whether by the system or being set up. He plays off the ball better than with it so I don't consider him a ballhandler/creator.

    Anderson has potential to me still. He's just 23 really maybe he needs to get traded but he's not a scorer, he's a passer and until Pop utilizes him properly he's going to get wasted here. Spurs need to continue to develop their young players and add to their crop.

    I wanted them to add someone more proven in FA but it seems impossible if they also want to stand pat with this group. It looks like even keeping the guys they have all together is uphill. some are due significant raises.

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    Blow it up!!!

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    The point is the Spurs have 2 alpha killers on the team (the just nearing his prime KingSlayer and the sometimes injured declining MVParker), one that used to be a killer but is aging out (Manu) and three young pups who may one day become killers and have potential (Davis, Dijon and the Juice) a decent enough for the right price role player (Dewayne). The rest of the team is replaceable and should be replaced if possible.

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    Agree with above post

    Honrable mention to Ginobili

    He showed up eventhou he is not an NBa caliber player anymore. Love him. He does need to retire. But good last playoffs of his career.

    Thank you Manu. Good ye

    Everyone bsides Parker, Kawhi and Simmons needs to be let go in the summer
    he definitely IS an NBA caliber player - he's just almost 40 years old - not sure what else you'd want from him

    we can rewrite what an NBA caliber player is then - by those standards Parker hasn't been one in a while - at least a couple years now, but I digress.

    Get real hater...

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    that's not how a professional basketball organization runs a professional basketball organization, let alone one that has won multiple championships and has broken all records in the past 15-20 years.

    unfortunately or fortunately (we dont know yet) most of this team will be back next season as is

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    Parker? LMFAO!!!

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    somebody wasn't watching the playoffs

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    Ok maybe keep Bertans and the rookie Murray eventhough he got his pushed in he still a rookie after all

    Everyone else get the out

    I gave you some about "just two players". But once you got down to this part, I start agreeing with a lot of what you're saying. I'm telling you, though, I don't think it's any better than 50-50 that we see Tony on the court again. He's 35 (today), and has a load more mileage than just about any other 35 year old you can think of.bbIf they had taken a year to rebuild, you wouldn't be talking about blowing it up now. They could be spending Pau's $16M on a legit center, and they could have a solid draft pick to upgrade the gene pool.

    You blow a team up to get better in the future. They would have to fire-sale LMA and Pau, and they would have to find a way to do it without giving up picks - otherwise you sort of defeat the purpose. I agree that Tony played really well in the playoffs. But if that injury was as bad as it looked, they would be better off if he retired and they could stretch his remaining salary.

    The other big regret I have from last offseason - if they had gone into rebuild mode, they could have afforded to give Bourousis enough to make the move here. I'm about 90% sure they could have convinced him, because he talked about wanting to come to the NBA last year, and the Spurs were one of the teams he mentioned. He had chemistry with Bertans, and I think he would be damn good by this next season. That ship has sailed. But the Spurs are probably going to have to count on getting some help from overseas now.

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    It's time to move on from TP

    And Manu should retire

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    I don't mind TP in a lesser role. We cannot have 2 mediocre point guards though. We need a stud, and we need some run through the jungle, bone in nose, plate lip brothas in the paint. Not this pale ass zombie named Gasol and LaMarginal All .

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    They will roll out the same ty team and expect different results, tbh.

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