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    Dudes live your ing life.

    Personally I don't thing there is a golden path with angels and or fiery pits.

    dead is just ing dead.

    the upside is no bills to pay.

    live your ing life like its the only one you have.

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    Also, agree with baseline that Yosemite (also Sequioa) are awesome.
    One thing I do have to caution about Yosemite. STAY THE OUT OF YOSEMITE VALLEY if you're going there any time from Memorial Day to late August. Last time I was there in the summer it was bumper to bumper traffic like on the 405 in LA, I kid you not. Any time from September to before Memorial Day the valley is amazing, but it's tourist in the dead of summer.

    Sequoia on the other hand is a ghost town compared to Yosemite. I have only done a little hiking there (did a trip up to Jennie Lake), but it's great. And the Giant Forest is something every American should drive through once. I have never seen anything like it, even in the sequoia groves in Yosemite.

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    One thing I do have to caution about Yosemite. STAY THE OUT OF YOSEMITE VALLEY if you're going there any time from Memorial Day to late August. Last time I was there in the summer it was bumper to bumper traffic like on the 405 in LA, I kid you not. Any time from September to before Memorial Day the valley is amazing, but it's tourist in the dead of summer.

    Sequoia on the other hand is a ghost town compared to Yosemite. I have only done a little hiking there, but it's great. And the Giant Forest is something every American should drive through once.

    Yeah, that's why last time I went there (couple of years ago), I purposely went to Sequoia instead. Still awesome, but much less crowded.

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    I haven't been to either. Wife's been to Zion and said it's one of the most amazing places she's seen. Doing Moab more for me, want to test the limits of the 4x4
    Utah is nonstop scenery from when I have been. They need to do a better job marketing themselves, because other than Hawaii it might be the most beautiful state in the nation.

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    Yeah, that's why last time I went there (couple of years ago), I purposely went to Sequoia instead. Still awesome, but much less crowded.
    If you ever want to do Yosemite again in the summer you should focus on the Tioga Pass Road area for dayhikes or even backpacks. The Tuolumne Meadows campground is a really cool place if you want to do frontcountry camping. Most of the best dayhikes in the park are concentrated within a 30-45 minute drive of that campground (and lots of them you can just start from the campground). Just don't go before August. July is mosquito , June is flooded, and May will be snowcovered if the road is even open.

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    One thing I do have to caution about Yosemite. STAY THE OUT OF YOSEMITE VALLEY if you're going there any time from Memorial Day to late August. Last time I was there in the summer it was bumper to bumper traffic like on the 405 in LA, I kid you not. Any time from September to before Memorial Day the valley is amazing, but it's tourist in the dead of summer.

    Sequoia on the other hand is a ghost town compared to Yosemite. I have only done a little hiking there (did a trip up to Jennie Lake), but it's great. And the Giant Forest is something every American should drive through once. I have never seen anything like it, even in the sequoia groves in Yosemite.
    I gotta do that. Bucket list stuff. Downside is I have to pay for like 8 kids and grand kids to do it with me. Upside is I do it with all the kids and grand kids. Easy decision.

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    I gotta do that. Bucket list stuff. Downside is I have to pay for like 8 kids and grand kids to do it with me. Upside is I do it with all the kids and grand kids. Easy decision.
    Yosemite hotels are grossly overpriced, so I would definitely consider camping there. The Ahwahnee was $500 a night ten years ago (no idea what it costs now ) and is an absolute dump. But the camping is great outside the valley in the peak season, or in the valley in non-peak season.

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    Dude, don't limit yourself to Yellowstone proper. If you want some amazing camping in the area go up to the Beartooths 15 miles outside the northeast entrance to the park. like Lower Aero Lake and out to the Sky Top Lakes. If you get lucky with the snowfall level there is a route up Granite Peak (highpoint of Montana) that's nontechnical if you go in the late summer and have a little luck with the weather. Though it's really dangerous if you get unlucky and this one shaded area is icy. There is also supposed to be a great 40 mile one way trail, I can't remember the name. But you won't have to deal with Yellowstone crowds.

    Or hit up Yosemite-Ansel Adams Wilderness if you haven't done any backpacking there. One thing I absolutely love about Yosemite is there is no assigned backcountry camping. You just stay where the you want as long as you're not within a couple of miles of a road and not within a couple hundred feet of water. No hanging your food, you just bring a bear canister that's also a nice chair when you're cooking or eating. You don't schedule so if you're feeling lazy one day or really want to bust ass and cover some miles, or maybe just want to spend the whole day exploring one area you can do it. Who wants a schedule when on vacation? I agree on backcountry sleeping, nothing like when it's 25 degrees outside and you have sleeping bag unzipped to let some of that cool in. Just stay away from Half Dome, overrated as and the crowds suck. Plus Yosemite has about the calmest weather you'll find above 10,000 feet (the Beartooths definitely don't though). Just make sure to properly acclimatize if you're doing a trip with some real elevation.
    Yellowstone was desolate the times we went out. We went to the South and Southeast arms. Nothing but us. Got snowed, sleeted, freezing rain on in June. No staff even out. Now when we moved closer and wandered trails, people. Also the weather in Yellostone is absolutely unpredictable. But I'm willing to do any of the above with big water. We also look for the wind blown sites with a beach for relief from skeeters.
    The bear poles were a pain but we got used to it. I found this desolate lake with huge Brook Trout and my god we ate. Table top to assemble the next item to look for. Found some good little chairs REI will try them out.Got a resei sleeping bag -20 rated... I was so Frggn hot in my under wear. The deal is I gotta have a big lake or big water nearby. I gotta kayak/camp. I love water. Also NOT a climber, but I can handle hiking at al ude and I really don't tire.

    Also been to various places in Canada with the Bay of Fundy being the best. Had to go with a guide as the tides and weather are very dangerous via kayak.

    Im taking those places in Montana down, and will check them out with the crew. We wanted to go to Montana. I wanna listen to new bear videos before we go out (required in Yellowstone backcountry and Canada where we went) Love to watch one of my friends freak out and then go anyway.

    I love farting in my tent and offending no one.

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    Agreed on all the above. Best investment I've made to accomplish the above was the rooftop tent for my 4Runner. I've always enjoyed camping but this thing has taken it to another level. Planning a trip now from San Diego to Moab and Zion.
    I looked at those. I have one for the bed in my Chevy but those top guys looked awesome.

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    I looked at those. I have one for the bed in my Chevy but those top guys looked awesome.
    It's so nice to never have to worry again about rain soaking the ground under the tent, or snakes/critters/insects getting in the tent. Also leaves plenty of room inside now for more gear and my dogs if I want.

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    I looked at those. I have one for the bed in my Chevy but those top guys looked awesome.
    If you're ever bored check out some youtubes of the Overlander guys in Australia. Some day I'll have a setup like theirs, minus the diesel land cruiser

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    Dudes live your ing life.

    Personally I don't thing there is a golden path with angels and or fiery pits.

    dead is just ing dead.

    the upside is no bills to pay.

    live your ing life like its the only one you have.
    Only problem is my wife wants me back. If I just could stay Away from the water...

    Kayaking the lakes/ocean is my favorite, but if you go over without someone really close...done. We practice the rescues but if the water is rough in cold lakes, adios. She gets really scared when I tell her it's supposed to be fairly painless and I will be a happy frozen corpse.

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    Yellowstone was desolate the times we went out. We went to the South and Southeast arms. Nothing but us. Got snowed, sleeted, freezing rain on in June. No staff even out. Now when we moved closer and wandered trails, people. Also the weather in Yellostone is absolutely unpredictable. But I'm willing to do any of the above with big water. We also look for the wind blown sites with a beach for relief from skeeters.
    The bear poles were a pain but we got used to it. I found this desolate lake with huge Brook Trout and my god we ate. Table top to assemble the next item to look for. Found some good little chairs REI will try them out.Got a resei sleeping bag -20 rated... I was so Frggn hot in my under wear. The deal is I gotta have a big lake or big water nearby. I gotta kayak/camp. I love water. Also NOT a climber, but I can handle hiking at al ude and I really don't tire.

    Also been to various places in Canada with the Bay of Fundy being the best. Had to go with a guide as the tides and weather are very dangerous via kayak.

    Im taking those places in Montana down, and will check them out with the crew. We wanted to go to Montana. I wanna listen to new bear videos before we go out (required in Yellowstone backcountry and Canada where we went) Love to watch one of my friends freak out and then go anyway.

    I love farting in my tent and offending no one.
    I can't imagine using a -20 bag. I use a 20 bag and bring a fleece and some long underwear if I think I'll get cold. Yellowstone in June man? That's still the dead of winter. When I was out in the area people were telling me there are two seasons in Yellowstone: winter and August.

    I'm not sure the Beartooths would be worth if for you then if kayaking is the main thing you're looking for. Lower Aero Lake is about a 9 mile hike from the closest trailhead.

    For the Yellowstone area I would definitely bring bear spray to wear with quick access given how many attacks there have been there in the last 7 years or so. I'll probably take a .44 next time I go camping out there too.

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    If you ever want to do Yosemite again in the summer you should focus on the Tioga Pass Road area for dayhikes or even backpacks. The Tuolumne Meadows campground is a really cool place if you want to do frontcountry camping. Most of the best dayhikes in the park are concentrated within a 30-45 minute drive of that campground (and lots of them you can just start from the campground). Just don't go before August. July is mosquito , June is flooded, and May will be snowcovered if the road is even open.

    Good info. Thanks

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    Yellowstone was desolate the times we went out. We went to the South and Southeast arms. Nothing but us. Got snowed, sleeted, freezing rain on in June. No staff even out. Now when we moved closer and wandered trails, people. Also the weather in Yellostone is absolutely unpredictable. But I'm willing to do any of the above with big water. We also look for the wind blown sites with a beach for relief from skeeters.
    The bear poles were a pain but we got used to it. I found this desolate lake with huge Brook Trout and my god we ate. Table top to assemble the next item to look for. Found some good little chairs REI will try them out.Got a resei sleeping bag -20 rated... I was so Frggn hot in my under wear. The deal is I gotta have a big lake or big water nearby. I gotta kayak/camp. I love water. Also NOT a climber, but I can handle hiking at al ude and I really don't tire.

    Also been to various places in Canada with the Bay of Fundy being the best. Had to go with a guide as the tides and weather are very dangerous via kayak.

    Im taking those places in Montana down, and will check them out with the crew. We wanted to go to Montana. I wanna listen to new bear videos before we go out (required in Yellowstone backcountry and Canada where we went) Love to watch one of my friends freak out and then go anyway.

    I love farting in my tent and offending no one.
    Went on a two week horseback hunting trip in British Columbia. Slept on spongy tundra in grizzly bear country in an old school packers tent. Caught Dolly Varden Trouts with a alder pole, string and bear as bait. Don't be skeered and live your ing life.

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    By the way, not that anyone gives a , but my last visit to Sequoia, I had a close encounter with a black bear. Thankfully, not a momma.

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    It's so nice to never have to worry again about rain soaking the ground under the tent, or snakes/critters/insects getting in the tent. Also leaves plenty of room inside now for more gear and my dogs if I want.
    When the wind really gets up, the fly is useless and the water is gonna pool somewhere underneath you. Even with a good tough plastic canvas under bed.

    The little things that sting or bite are much more bothersome than anything big, so being off the ground A+

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    Went on a two week horseback hunting trip in British Columbia. Slept on spongy tundra in grizzly bear country in an old school packers tent. Caught Dolly Varden Trouts with a alder pole, string and bear as bait. Don't be skeered and live your ing life.
    The Yellowstone area has gotten really bad since about 2009 or so though. There was something like 30 years between fatal bear attacks until 2009 or 2010, and now it seems like there is one every year or two. Supposedly these beetles are decimating the whitebark pines whose nuts cons ute most of the bears' diets. I guess it's kind of stupid to be too worried about a bear attack given how rare it is even now, but I'll still gladly pay the $50 for a can of bear spray and then donate it to a ranger on the way home.

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    By the way, not that anyone gives a , but my last visit to Sequoia, I had a close encounter with a black bear. Thankfully, not a momma.
    Dude you gotta say more than that man, that must have been awesome.

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    Went on a two week horseback hunting trip in British Columbia. Slept on spongy tundra in grizzly bear country in an old school packers tent. Caught Dolly Varden Trouts with a alder pole, string and bear as bait. Don't be skeered and live your ing life.
    The bear attacks are so rare, no bother. I would probably spray myself in the face with the pepper spray in the middle of the night anyway and become a y person-in-a-tent taco.

    Fishing. I have beat sharks and dolphin away from my stringer with just my rod tip So I got that down.

    Dolly Varden. Never caught those. I know there were Grayling in one of the lakes we were on but never caught any. Caught absolutely enormous cutthroat and lake trout. We ate the lake trout, no keeping the cutthroat. The Brook trout where 16 Frggn inches!! I had only caught like 5-10 inch brookies.

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    The bear attacks are so rare, no bother. I would probably spray myself in the face with the pepper spray in the middle of the night anyway and become a y person-in-a-tent taco.

    Fishing. I have beat sharks and dolphin away from my stringer with just my rod tip So I got that down.

    Dolly Varden. Never caught those. I know there were Grayling in one of the lakes we were on but never caught any. Caught absolutely enormous cutthroat and lake trout. We ate the lake trout, no keeping the cutthroat. The Brook trout where 16 Frggn inches!! I had only caught like 5-10 inch brookies.
    Bear spray is pretty foolproof to use. It creates a big ing cloud so you can't miss. Just don't shower or wear deodorant and the bears will know there's a human in the tent and stay away anyways.

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    Dude you gotta say more than that man, that must have been awesome.
    I will.

    I saw one treed and reported it and they cordoned off the area. There was people food all around. Scavengers...

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    I will.

    I saw one treed and reported it and they cordoned off the area. There was people food all around. Scavengers...
    I have run across black bears a couple of times. Strangely never in Yosemite though, even though it's the park I have camped in most. I saw a momma and her cubs hiking in Sequoia but they just ran off. Then I saw a big black bear at the Chisos Basin campground in Big Bend when I went to the bathroom there to go wash my face and brush my teeth in the morning. That one was definitely pretty habituated to humans since it just strolled off leisurely when it saw me. Probably one of the downsides of not allowing hunting in National Parks.

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    Bear spray is pretty foolproof to use. It creates a big ing cloud so you can't miss. Just don't shower or wear deodorant and the bears will know there's a human in the tent and stay away anyways.
    Oh we F'N stink human and smoke. 9 days straight... We get so tired by night we just collapse. Deepest sleep ever. Next day, off we go. Like you said, no daily plan, make it up as weather and such permit. I get so used to tying, untying, retying... It's bizzare what one can put up with out there.

    Now I can't wait...

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    Dude you gotta say more than that man, that must have been awesome.
    It was a juvenile male. I screamed like a little and that bear hauled ass.

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