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He's streaky as far as his outside shot goes. But he always seems to give good effort on D. And always ready to take it to the rim.
Pretty damn good sub that can play SG or SF.
lots of high minute guys can get decent results. lets see how he does with bench minutes.
He's streaky as far as his outside shot goes. But he always seems to give good effort on D. And always ready to take it to the rim.
Pretty damn good sub that can play SG or SF.
Yes but an energy guy who is solid defensively is what you can get from Hanga at a fraction of the price. It's what he's been doing offensively that raises his price so he would need to maintain consistency in that area to be worth a large contract.
I think Pops track record speaks for itself. I think Stephen Jackson is a good example. If he isn't willing to sacrifice to be on the team and doesn't want a reasonable contract you let him walk. It's only right for both sides involved. I think a 3 year 24 mill contract sounds about right for an outstanding postseason yet a decent season. If he gets the max or big offer you tell him to go like we did to Boban. It really is best for his family long term. Love his heart, passion, and fearlessness but you don't break the bank for him. As much as some of us give Danny flak, he took the cut to be with us. You hope Simmons can do the same but you don't blame him if he doesn't. I think there's some sentimental value here but... you never know.
Despite what his detractors asserted last summer, Simmons is proving that he has not reached his ceiling (although he may be getting near). His defense has become much more fundamentally sound, and his touch/stupid fouls have continuously declined throughout the season. And he is becoming more confident in his three-ball, taking (and making) it with much more consistency. Simmons is already much more than a role player. He has been starting for the SPURS with good results. If not a starter, he is becoming a very fine 6th man.
I agree with the first part of your comment. Can Simmons play ay this playoff level on a consistent basis? But he is more than a role player. He is clearly a rotation player if not starter caliber. He is probably as good a sixth man as most of the teams in the league have.
I suspect that we keep him. His cap hold, (his qualifying offer), is something like $1.5 Million. We are not getting a better player for that kind of money, so his qualifying offer will be made. Then we can match just about anything he gets on the FA market due to the Arenas rule. We will only lose him if we think the offer he ends up with is much too generous for his value as a player...
I was mostly replying to DMC who said he's a scrub. In this current form he's not. (I didn't think he was that b4 either, but guys subjective definition of scrub is up to them. I am not going to argue that).
Simmons in a role player role looked horrible the past 2 years, tbh..he is completely wasted when the ball isn't his hands, his offense is reliant on high usage, it isn't a coincidence that most of his memorable games were all without one of Parker, Kawhi and Ginobili..
If the Spurs choose to pay him big money, he will have to be the 6th man, it's the only way to maximize his potential and justify a big contract..he will never succeed as a role player, as we have seen the past 2 years..hopefully it means Manu is retiring(I want him to return, but it doesn't make sense if you're committing to Simmons)..
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Yes. This is it basically. I also think he has proven more valuable than mills... although to venture into speculation about what Spurs will do in the offseason is really a guess. They could stand pat (successful season and got to the WCF) or maybe they decide to make a run for some FA.
Yes. I agree with this take. I have thought Manu retires for most of the season, although now that we come to the conclusion of the season I am unsure. But it doesn't make sense for Manu to come back at 40 to play off the ball exclusively. Dijon should also get usage up and ballhandling duties next season if we are honest.
Can anyone explain/summarize in layman's terms? Arenas Rule, MLE, etc? I can't tell if Simmons will be tough to re-sign or not, assuming Pop + RC value him highly.
Thx. Only part to please clarify: "Year 3 : 3rd year $ up to the max" - a max contract?
yup. Wouldnt be like 35 mill or anything like that but like 20 something.
and that could either be the worst year (salary wise) of a very bad contract or the year that simmons earns his pay. assuming he received such an offer, that is.
Simmons coming back down to Earth
Ive got the feeling, because of his athleticism and performance in the playoffs, someone is going to throw stupid coin at him, which wouldn't be smart to match given the sample size. Problem is we need someone outside of Mills to handle the ball off the bench. Someone threw $16/year at Mozov for one playoff performance...
I would rather pay Hanga cheap money can get the same result at a lot lower cost.
Simmons would be a player we would want on out team if he were a free agent this summer...Dude is good on offense and defense...The only reason he looked inconsistent is that he wasn't given consistent pt from pop...He would go several games playing, then several games out of the lineup...He didnt know if he was gonna play night by night...They aren't robots...That messes with a player's timing...It also causes them to play tight because they dont know if they'll get benched for missing/taking a shot,
He is so over valued by a lot of fans just because he is an exciting player. Would be nice to keep him as 9th or 10th roster guy but wouldn't be upset if he got paid elsewhere.
The player you are describing is Anderson. Simmons played nightly. Only games he missed was bc he injured a wrist. He was averaging 20 minutes etc.
He was inconsistent a lot because he needed the ball in his hands more and imo he wasn't ready. These playoffs in these cir stances were the best thing that could happen to him.
got Joe being a got, per par.
Have you read your take, fat hands?got Joe being a got, per par.
At least read you disgusting obese .
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