Seriously pump the breaks....
Again, I don't mind Murray starting and I love his potential, but are you denying that he's extremely flawed, at the moment?
His jump shot needs serious work, he needs to tighten his handle and needs to add significant strength to aid with his balance and finishing ability vs. NBA defenders..all very possible, going forward, but it'll be years before he's a legitimate starting PG IMO..
Have him work with Kawai during the off-season.
I thought pop was crazy when he started Parker at 19, Murray is not as good as Parker was but it's time to find out how good he is. His size an athletic ability will give him an advantage.
He learned a lot in these playoffs. Hopefully he watches film and gets Kawhi' s workout development plan.
I'd rather ride with Murray than pay up for a Lowry/Hill. Perhaps have a down year with Murray taking minutes - maybe not even cross 50 wins (will be hard with Kawhi) and see if you can develop Murray. Not winning next year as long as GSW stays what they are, so reload in a year and maybe pick in the middle of round 1 for once.
Yeah. He's got flaws. What 20 year old that came into the league didn't? He does need to work in his handles and shot. No doubt. But if he puts in the work, he'll get there. He's a super quick slasher that seems to have no fear going to the hoop. He was thrown into the fire and looked pretty damn legit. I'm willing to take the bad along with the good. He's closer to starting potential than a lot of people are giving him credit for. Is he an all star next year? Probably not. But he's damn sure enough of a threat that the other team will have to account for. Assuming he puts in the work in the offseason. And he seems to be the type that will do that.
I basically have said the same thing. I think theyll bring in a vet stop gap. Shelvin Mack comes to mind.
Right. But Parker had a ton more games under his belt. Initially I was a doubter. Thought his handles sucked. But he's got a ton of potential. And it's not like the Spurs won't work his ass to get better. His low end is George Hill imo.
I had the same thought, but I dont want anything to get in Kawhi's way. He's going nuclear on mother ers next year.
Murray will be fine. Everything takes time.....you can't skip steps. Lucky for him he will be paired with the best player in the league.
His playoff numbers are very similar to rookie Kobe. He has the confidence and he will only get better.
If we miss out on CP3, then I agree. Start him over maxing out second/third-tier PG's like Hill, Lowry, Holiday, Rose, etc.....
I don't think we have much of a choice at the beginning of next season.He should start, and wouldn't have as much pressure being thrown into the fire like this postseason. I could see Tony returning late in the season if we are struggling, and taking over the starting spot if the kid does struggle which will happen at times next season. He seems like a gym rat from Instagram posts, so I expect some improvements to his flaws especially his shot. Hopefully he works with Leonard, and Chip mentioned. I expect him to play in Vegas, and tear up though.
As for guys I would like go after that might not be too expensive to backup Murray would be Shaun Livingston, Milos Teodosic, Darren Collison & Shelvin Mack.
With summer league and training camp I think Pop should run with Murray as the starting PG. Kid had lots of potential offensively.
What I think a lot of people are missing out on Murray is his ability to come up with steals. Yeah his length helps him in the passing lanes but there was a sequence in the Rockets series and also against the Warriors is where he knew where the opposing team was going to pass before it happened. He was almost Manuesque. One particular series against Rockets where he had his has on a deflection that the Rockets maintained but then a couple of seconds later rotated to the corner for the steal. It was very impressive. In today's game he was able to jump on the inbounds feed and steal pass from Curry. Not bad for a 20 year old kid. He and Kawhi with their ability to disrupt passing lanes is going to be the new improved Wingstop next year.
Parker couldn't shoot for and has always been ty on D.
Parker was an elite scorer at the rim with elite footwork, scoop shots floaters, using the basket to protect the shot, getting into the bigs body. Even early on he showed precociousness. He also was much quicker and faster. It's amazing how ignorant current Spurs fans are of the talent Parker showed even in the beginning.
Of course he's not ready, but anyone who think he doesn't have really nice potential with his raw talent is just being an idiot.. I hope he gets lots of minutes next season because he could be a key piece sometime in the future, with tony out he has to play and learn by gaining more experience. Over the summer definitely he will work on a jumper, and to add some strength, and the spurs can help be more defensively sound that's for sure
Ignorant? Wtf. That's way off. Everyone here saw that . He was a badass. No one has said anything different about his first years.
The kid has confidence and pride..... Those traits will help him get better! We will need Bryn and Davis to play better next year. These two dudes are essential in today's NBA.
Parker had been playing professionally in France against grown men before he came to the Spurs. It's not the same. He could drive and dish while staying under control. His defense wasn't great but he gave opposing guards fits with his speed. Just ask Gary Payton. When he got here, we had the following players on the roster:
1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. Bruce Bowen
4. Antonio Daniels
5. Steve Smith
6. Terry Porter
7. Stephen Jackson
8. Malik Rose
9. Danny Ferry
10. Mark Bryant
11. Jason Hart
That's a lot of experience and a great support system to start with. Murray isn't walking in to the same system. I love his potential, glad the Spurs got him but he's not ready to direct this team to the finals as a PG. Yes, he needs a good summer camp, lots of minutes next year and the years to come. I don't think he will be a reliable contributor for another 2 years at least. I hope I'm wrong and he can advance quicker than that.
Jason Hart was trash. He made Parker worse if anything.
Having Leonard will help him and Pop will also get him to play up to his ability; less flash and more substance! Pop kind of mentioned Steph has done the same thing with his game. The kid will be fine.
You got me there.
He isn't ready to start but he might end up being the best option. I would prefer him to be the backup PG, it would allow him to progress and improve his game without putting pressure on him right away (similar to Kawhi) and I think his energy and athleticism would be nice to have on a 2nd unit. But that would rely on the Spurs getting one of the top PGs in FA and I'm not sure how likely that is.
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