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I don't want a D League player starting for the Spurs tbh.
I don't want green starting...Isn't worth it...I'd much rather Simmons... he has earned it...He has an improved jumper, he works harder, and he can handle the ball/break down the defense to take pressure off kawhi...He has also guarded Harden much better than green ever has...A lineup of him, Murray and kawhi would be a terror in the passing lanes which would lead to fast breaks...The guy has been working hard, and Green tbh has gotten lazy...His game hasn't improved at all over the years (he has regressed, IMO), and anytime he dribbles or passes, it leads to a disaster
I don't want a D League player starting for the Spurs tbh.
I still prefer Green. He's a much better 3 point shooter and a better defender. He fits better with Kawhi too.
Not sure how willing I am to have Simmons back, depends on how much he wants and how it affects the rest of the cap situation.
In the end, Simmons will end up being the modern-day version of Jaren Jackson. One good playoff run ... and that's about it.
(And at least Jaren helped the Spurs)
This.
Also, juice is playing solid coming of the bench. Depending the game and how they are playing, you can give more minutes to juice or Green.
Last edited by daledondale; 05-24-2017 at 10:13 AM.
Hanga will start next season, until Porker comes back TBH.
Even if you think Simmons is or can be better than Green, starting him is a terrible idea IMO..for Simmons to be effective, he needs the ball in his hands..he has looked horrible as a role player during his time as a Spur, it's not his role, he needs to be a high-usage type like a Lance Stephenson or Tyreke Evans..
It's not a coincidence that his breakout games usually involve Kawhi, Parker or Manu not being on the court with him..his usage rate in the playoffs was 23.3%, there's no way he would ever approach that with Kawhi and Aldridge on the floor..
Simmons' usage rate with Aldridge and Kawhi on the floor was 12%, this season..completely wastes his offensive ability..if you're going to pay him and commit, he needs to take over Manu's bench anchor role and allow him to run the offense..
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 05-24-2017 at 10:11 AM.
Green does not play well off of Kawhi. He very rarely cuts, back door players, and has zero pnr skills with the ball in his hand. If he ain't spotting up for three, he's really not doing anything on offense. And the good teams are now fast enough to cover the three point line.
He need someone that can generate some offense with slashing. Simmons helps with that. Not to mention, his defense is not to shabby. He just really needs to keep improving his jumper.
simmons needs to be like manu off the bench
green needs to move more off the ball or drive more
This. Parker collapsing the defense led to a ton of Green 3s when he would move to the open space. Murray can potentially do the same but he will need a lot more chemistry with Green.
I like Simmons and it'd be nice to be able to keep him but lol he is way over valued by so many Spurs fans. And in no way is he starter material. Dude can't shoot!
I dont want Green either, worse year after year.
I'm not a total homer on Simmons, but greens play has been slipping.
100% agree.
Ha. I think he's closer to Jax than Jarren. But that block Jarren made...In the end, Simmons will end up being the modern-day version of Jaren Jackson. One good playoff run ... and that's about it.
(And at least Jaren helped the Spurs
i'm probably reading too much into the comment manu made in his blog from today, but i thought it was interesting that he made the comment about just playing five minutes per game, as if that suggested an awareness that simmons would inherit his spot in the rotation (assuming both players were back, of course).
Trying to trade Green or get an upgrade is fine, but Simmons still shouldn't start, even if Green is gone..too many mouths to feed, especially if people want Murray to have a prominent role..
We have a 2 year sample size of what Simmons looks like without the ball in his hands..
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 05-24-2017 at 12:58 PM.
Simmons, he's getting overrated as . Let him walk and get a true NBA player that can shoot, tbh.
I am also assuming Simmons is back not just from that but mentions made by media with good sources that the Spurs will bring Hang a in only if Manu retires. Hang a wants to join an NBA team so I am assuming Spurs would release his rights if they pass on the opportunity to sign him. He doesn't want to join a team without any paths to playing time and it makes sense. He's 28 and doesn't have time to grind out an NBA career from the depths of the playing time chart like a college rookie.
I think it's almost a guven Jsimms is back.
Simmons' lack of shooting and passing is a huge issue if looking to divert significant money to him.
He shot 38% in his first year from three and that fell to below 30% this year on twice as many attempts (over 100). Yes, I realize that's the difference of about 8 makes over the course of the year, but when he misses it can be ugly. Generally not defended either. A bit better in playoffs on 37 attempts (rounding differences).
It's risky, because you're paying him for 2 weeks of basketball where his jump shot was hot..and even then, despite shooting as well as he has for a stretch in 2 years, his TS% was still only 52%..
so then it would really be a battle between hanga and manu for a roster spot then (assuming manu elected not to retire).
He's a mediocre journeyman, if the Spurs commit even mid level money to him on a multiyear contract, it would be one of the dumbest things they would ever do. Dude doesn't have much more to provide than what we already saw, and what we already saw isn't even that good to begin with. Spurs don't overpay for mediocre players, don't start doing it now.
The Start Simmons crew is just as bad as the start paddy krew.
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