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    coachmac87 in suicide watch tbh He's having a stroke at minimum
    Lmao I mean the kid needs to be part of the rotation for sure. I just think it's fools gold and too much to ask for a 19-20yr old kid to be a starter for a true contender...

    Tony Parker had veteran leadership around him...Spurs have a Mute in Kawhi and named LaMarsha...

    Go get CP3 and let Murray learn and grow

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    The only reason Parker looked better in his rookie year was the sample size...He started from the beginning, so we could see all he has to offer...He learned and got better as the season went on...Murray wasn't given the same chance...Murray actually is more gifted than a rookie parker...Better dribbling skills, more athletic, much taller...He needs to start..Just needs to work on shooting and defense

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    Lmao I mean the kid needs to be part of the rotation for sure. I just think it's fools gold and too much to ask for a 19-20yr old kid to be a starter for a true contender...

    Tony Parker had veteran leadership around him...Spurs have a Mute in Kawhi and named LaMarsha...

    Go get CP3 and let Murray learn and grow
    so...just sit him on the bench and let him grow?

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    I'm a huge Murray fan. But Parker was so quick that it was irrelevant that he didn't' have a midrange game. Or couldn't shoot the three or pass.
    That's how damn good he was. He was a one trick pony and still no one could cover him.
    Huh??? We lost MANY playoff series because parker disappeared... he was even benchedbfor speedy Clacton because of how bad he was in the finals

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    so...just sit him on the bench and let him grow?
    No you let him be the back up point or combo guard off the bench....especially with Manu retiring and Simmons going somewhere else

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    Huh??? We lost MANY playoff series because parker disappeared... he was even benched for Speedy Claxton because of how bad he was in the finals

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    Chip will fix his release over the summer and all the critics will have to eat it next year. Raise his release point from about chest high to up eye level or higher, and the kid will be set. He had no problems taking anyone from the Warriors off the dribble (even Klay and Draymond), just couldn't finish consistently.

    Not sure how anyone isn't excited about seeing him develop next season.

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    Chip will fix his release over the summer and all the critics will have to eat it next year. Raise his release point from about chest high to up eye level or higher, and the kid will be set. He had no problems taking anyone from the Warriors off the dribble (even Klay and Draymond), just couldn't finish consistently.

    Not sure how anyone isn't excited about seeing him develop next season.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/co...th_kawhi_this/

    Reddit is saying that Dejounte might work out with Leonard during the summer. Probably Pop trying to show Dejounte Leonard's work ethic during the offseason instead of someone like Aldridge who just gets fat.

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    Chip will fix his release over the summer and all the critics will have to eat it next year. Raise his release point from about chest high to up eye level or higher, and the kid will be set. He had no problems taking anyone from the Warriors off the dribble (even Klay and Draymond), just couldn't finish consistently.

    Not sure how anyone isn't excited about seeing him develop next season.

    Totally agree....


    But still not starter worthy

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/co...th_kawhi_this/

    Reddit is saying that Dejounte might work out with Leonard during the summer. Probably Pop trying to show Dejounte Leonard's work ethic during the offseason instead of someone like Aldridge who just gets fat.


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    one of the biggest attributes to the Spurs success, the yoking of the veterans to the youth. And not just any veterans but all time greats. You had Robinson to Duncan and so on and so forth. This kid is gonna be an all star one day book it. No better player to work out with imo especially with the kind of growth Leonard has experienced year after year. A true story of what hard work can do...

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    I'm a huge Murray fan. But Parker was so quick that it was irrelevant that he didn't' have a midrange game. Or couldn't shoot the three or pass.
    That's how damn good he was. He was a one trick pony and still no one could cover him.

    Parker was fast, but in his first year, he had a hard time finishing at the rim. He had yet to develop his floater or jump shot. Must get ball to Teemy was his main job. And yes speedy claxton had to change his diaper in the finals.

    Had murray started all year like Parker got to, we would have seen a different player. Chip will fix his shot just like he did kawhi and parker

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    You can tell the kid doesn't want to just play. He wants and expects to be a star, and I think he will be

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    Lmao I mean the kid needs to be part of the rotation for sure. I just think it's fools gold and too much to ask for a 19-20yr old kid to be a starter for a true contender...

    Tony Parker had veteran leadership around him...Spurs have a Mute in Kawhi and named LaMarsha...

    Go get CP3 and let Murray learn and grow
    maybe we'd be sacrificing that for a couple of seasons tbh. But we'd still be very good, and we will grow back into true contenders if/when he's ready

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    maybe we'd be sacrificing that for a couple of seasons tbh. But we'd still be very good, and we will grow back into true contenders if/when he's ready

    Um no you don't sacrifice the prime years of a top 3-5 player in the league (Kawhi). You've gotta explore other options first and if all fails then maybe you go that route.

    PS: Kaehi is only under contract for 2 more years...can't get too comfortable

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    Um no you don't sacrifice the prime years of a top 3-5 player in the league (Kawhi). You've gotta explore other options first and if all fails then maybe you go that route.

    PS: Kaehi is only under contract for 2 more years...can't get too comfortable
    Tell me a way we can be true contenders next season and I'm on board. CP3 isn't it. 32 and aging, nope. We had no money this season. Next year we will. Start Murray and let him grow for a year, then we can make a FA signing next offseason and Kawhi will be in his 27 yo season.

    You can just say we can't "sacrifice the prime years" of a superstar. You can't just say it and make it happen. It's hard to be a contender. Not maximizing a young player's potential is a mistake, too. And it's something you can completely control.

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    The length of the lineup with Murray starting would be amazing​. I'd rather he get a ton of minutes to develop than the spurs bring in some vet scrub. They're not winning the championship next year anyway, so why not give your future a major opportunity for two seasons from now, when the Spurs will really make a run for the championship.
    Is that a fact?

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    Tell me a way we can be true contenders next season and I'm on board. CP3 isn't it. 32 and aging, nope. We had no money this season. Next year we will. Start Murray and let him grow for a year, then we can make a FA signing next offseason and Kawhi will be in his 27 yo season.

    You can just say we can't "sacrifice the prime years" of a superstar. You can't just say it and make it happen. It's hard to be a contender. Not maximizing a young player's potential is a mistake, too. And it's something you can completely control.

    Murray would arguably be ranked one of the worst starting point guards in the west...and he'd be on a top 3 team in the west. I'm on board with Murray growing and playing more just not as a starter...he's just not ready and it doesn't take a basketball genius to recognize it...

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    Murray would arguably be ranked one of the worst starting point guards in the west...and he'd be on a top 3 team in the west. I'm on board with Murray growing and playing more just not as a starter...he's just not ready and it doesn't take a basketball genius to recognize it...
    He's not developed enough to comfortably start him, but he will cost 0 additional money and he needs the experience.
    We obviously just disagree, but I want you to tell me how we're gonna sign CP3. Gasol is opting in. What money? Trade LMA? So Kawhi and CP3 is enough to win it all next year?

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    Needs too much work to get to starter status for a contender team next season.

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    He's not developed enough to comfortably start him, but he will cost 0 additional money and he needs the experience.
    We obviously just disagree, but I want you to tell me how we're gonna sign CP3. Gasol is opting in. What money? Trade LMA? So Kawhi and CP3 is enough to win it all next year?

    Well if he's not ready to start then don't start him...he needs to be the back up point or combo off the bench..kinda like a Jamal Crawford type..

    But regarding Paul? There's a lot of moving parts we just don't know tbh...

    Will he take less then 4-5 year contract? Will he take less then super max $? What's the time table for Parker return?? Gasol doesn't matter because regardless what he does he will get moved if Paul is a possibility..

    Would I trade LMA if it meant getting Paul? Yes I would...

    And yes I think a Paul/Kawhi team can compete..Other then LeBron and Kawhi..Paul was 3rd best player this postseason

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    Well if he's not ready to start then don't start him...he needs to be the back up point or combo off the bench..kinda like a Jamal Crawford type..

    But regarding Paul? There's a lot of moving parts we just don't know tbh...

    Will he take less then 4-5 year contract? Will he take less then super max $? What's the time table for Parker return?? Gasol doesn't matter because regardless what he does he will get moved if Paul is a possibility..

    Would I trade LMA if it meant getting Paul? Yes I would...

    And yes I think a Paul/Kawhi team can compete..Other then LeBron and Kawhi..Paul was 3rd best player this postseason
    "Starting" is overrated on this team. I want Murray to get significant minutes. Obviously I'd prefer to have someone to plug in when Murray shows his age. But don't want PATFO to overpay an aging player.

    I think we disagree on what CP3's value is and how well he would fit on the Spurs. I mean, if he wants to ring chase and go the D West route, I'm down for a Kawhi-LMA-CP3 trio. I just don't see that. I know they could pay him more than they paid West, I just mean Paul has the West mentality

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    Um no you don't sacrifice the prime years of a top 3-5 player in the league (Kawhi). You've gotta explore other options first and if all fails then maybe you go that route.

    PS: Kaehi is only under contract for 2 more years...can't get too comfortable
    Kawhi reached where he is now because he was given the chance to...If we had parked him on the bench in favor of a sf that can shoot, and has more experience, he would have never been this good this fast

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    CP3 is an old choker...I font want those types on the team anymore... seems like we are where aging stars go to retire...It makes us good every year, but we always seem to lack the speed and athleticism of the team that beats us...Time to give the younger guys that show potential some burn...............Not Kyle though...He sucks

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