Lakers: Lavar: Longo only gonna work out for the LakeShow.

[Raven]

sons lonzo ball has a ing 7'0 wingspan on a pretty wide frame (he'll fill out quite a bit imo) with quick foot speed and is always composed (in game, outside game) in spite of his troll dad. Guarding SFs will be hard but for a switch or two his height and wingspan coupled with his good foot speed will be enough in 2-3 years.

Y'all s need to inform yourselves about something before discussing it, this pick is solid tbh.

don't know where you got that from, he is registered having a 6-7 wingspan...

[midnightpulp]

Hypothetical situation: LaVar aside, who would you draft for the Spurs out of Fultz or Ball?

My personal bias against Ball is his big mouf daddy. His game is just flashy enough to make Magic take him over a player like Fox. If I ranked the 3 PGs: Fultz, Fox, Ball.

Fultz.

Real talk. If a PG in today's game isn't a threat for 25-30 every game, he'll probably be just an average PG. I don't think pass first PGs can work anymore (i.e. Rubio, Rondo, etc). He also needs to be deadly in the pick-and-roll and a consistent 3 point shooter (I don't care that his NCAA 3 point percentage was 41%. That jumper won't succeed in the NBA). Longo is arguably the worst in those areas out of the top PGs in the draft.

[LkrFan]

Fultz.

Real talk. If a PG in today's game isn't a threat for 25-30 every game, he'll probably be just an average PG. I don't think pass first PGs can work anymore (i.e. Rubio, Rondo, etc). He also needs to be deadly in the pick-and-roll and a consistent 3 point shooter (I don't care that his NCAA 3 point percentage was 41%. That jumper won't succeed in the NBA). Longo is arguably the worst in those areas out of the top PGs in the draft.

Agreed. No wonder you're so "excited" that we are gonna blow it by drafting this guy!

[LkrFan]

Interesting shot chart for the top prospects:

[LkrFan]

The case for Lakers taking Fox: http://www.lakersnation.com/the-case...ox/2017/05/21/

I agree. It's more likely that Fox develops a jumper than it is that Ball would improve his on ball defense vs Curry, Dame, Westbrook, etc.

They did surprise us with taking DangeRuss over Oak. Maybe they surprise us again? We'll see.

[dfens]

The case for Lakers taking Fox: http://www.lakersnation.com/the-case...ox/2017/05/21/

I agree. It's more likely that Fox develops a jumper than it is that Ball would improve his on ball defense vs Curry, Dame, Westbrook, etc.

They did surprise us with taking DangeRuss over Oak. Maybe they surprise us again? We'll see.

fox has a 6'0' wingspan son, that's a major negative in this league and at his size.

[dfens]

don't know where you got that from, he is registered having a 6-7 wingspan...

saw it now too , different sites have different measurements, I've seen 6-7/6-8 and 7-0. Still, exceptional measurements for a PG.

[LkrFan]

fox has a 6'0' wingspan son, that's a major negative in this league and at his size.

6'0" wingspan? Wow, his arms are longer than Julius Randle

[LkrFan]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...head-nba-draft



That said, I would gain an ounce of respect for Knicks West if they stiffed this got and his bootleg Drake son and drafted Fox or something.

But that won't happen. Magic LOVES det boy.

D'Bust don't want Lonzo in LA?

Me neither

[LkrFan]

[whitemamba]

Lonzo is a solid player homie , if that ugly shot drops then what ever , it. His defense is obviously questionable , but the kid can make plays. I'm on board.

[LkrFan]

Lonzo is a solid player homie , if that ugly shot drops then what ever , it. His defense is obviously questionable , but the kid can make plays. I'm on board.

Oh I'm not worried about his game. He has some holes (midrange game needs work, not a great defender, for examples), but he's pretty good and will improve. His biggest negative? LaVar. He could be a HUGE distraction for 10-15 years. We don't need that.

[ElNono]

Good luck with that, Arnoldo

[LkrFan]

Good luck with that, Arnoldo

[whitemamba]

Oh I'm not worried about his game. He has some holes (midrange game needs work, not a great defender, for examples), but he's pretty good and will improve. His biggest negative? LaVar. He could be a HUGE distraction for 10-15 years. We don't need that.

if his son responds well , we good.

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Oh I'm not worried about his game. He has some holes (midrange game needs work, not a great defender, for examples), but he's pretty good and will improve. His biggest negative? LaVar. He could be a HUGE distraction for 10-15 years. We don't need that.

When they were still in the running to draft him here dad was going to be no problem. Oh, yeah, very progressive in how they were going to deal with daddy Ball. Should have heard them every day on that radio with their machinations on how to deal with this black fellow in a white town. Oh, they were going to bend over backwards & frontwards to accommodate him. Once they fell to 4th then they called dad everything but a black man. See, they couldn't very well take it out on the commissioner because Stern was no longer strapped to the whipping post and Silver is revered by this Media like the second coming. So, they took daddy Ball, strapped him to the whipping post and turned his ass into two Jap flags.

"I'm told even had we had the first pick we would not have drafted Ball. No way were we going to put up with the father's shenanigans."

"Yes, I heard that too, so it must be accurate. Oh, good for us. And you know what else?"

"What?"

"I HONESTLY believe it's a GOOD THING we dropped to 4th instead of 1st or 2nd or 3rd."

"Me too! I HONESTLY believe that too. I was thinking the same thing! Wow."

[Killakobe81]

6'0" wingspan? Wow, his arms are longer than Julius Randle

Lol out of our lottery guys he worries me the most ...tbh more than Russell Ingram or even Lonzo

[ambchang]

When they were still in the running to draft him here dad was going to be no problem. Oh, yeah, very progressive in how they were going to deal with daddy Ball. Should have heard them every day on that radio with their machinations on how to deal with this black fellow in a white town. Oh, they were going to bend over backwards & frontwards to accommodate him. Once they fell to 4th then they called dad everything but a black man. See, they couldn't very well take it out on the commissioner because Stern was no longer strapped to the whipping post and Silver is revered by this Media like the second coming. So, they took daddy Ball, strapped him to the whipping post and turned his ass into two Jap flags.

"I'm told even had we had the first pick we would not have drafted Ball. No way were we going to put up with the father's shenanigans."

"Yes, I heard that too, so it must be accurate. Oh, good for us. And you know what else?"

"What?"

"I HONESTLY believe it's a GOOD THING we dropped to 4th instead of 1st or 2nd or 3rd."

"Me too! I HONESTLY believe that too. I was thinking the same thing! Wow."

Just like it was "Make the playoffs / Win the last game". Now it's "Spurs didn't win / hahaha", or "Lakers got a good draft pick, woohoo!"

[UZER]

I hate the Lakers and their front running Warrior fans, also can't stand his dumb ass dad, but I'm on the lonzo gon be good wagon. There is just something about his court awareness / passing that can't be taught. He isn't super athletic, but his height and length will help compensate for the transition to the NBA

I will say this though, guys are going to go at him hard and right away. He won't get any leeway because of his dad's loud mouth, but the kid has got some real talent.

[LkrFan]

When they were still in the running to draft him here dad was going to be no problem. Oh, yeah, very progressive in how they were going to deal with daddy Ball. Should have heard them every day on that radio with their machinations on how to deal with this black fellow in a white town. Oh, they were going to bend over backwards & frontwards to accommodate him. Once they fell to 4th then they called dad everything but a black man. See, they couldn't very well take it out on the commissioner because Stern was no longer strapped to the whipping post and Silver is revered by this Media like the second coming. So, they took daddy Ball, strapped him to the whipping post and turned his ass into two Jap flags.

"I'm told even had we had the first pick we would not have drafted Ball. No way were we going to put up with the father's shenanigans."

"Yes, I heard that too, so it must be accurate. Oh, good for us. And you know what else?"

"What?"

"I HONESTLY believe it's a GOOD THING we dropped to 4th instead of 1st or 2nd or 3rd."

"Me too! I HONESTLY believe that too. I was thinking the same thing! Wow."

Well said. Good stuff!

[LkrFan]

Lol out of our lottery guys he worries me the most ...tbh more than Russell Ingram or even Lonzo

I've seen vids of him working really hard. He's putting the effort in. I'll give him that. But Draymond Green he is not.

I hope they attach him and either Moz/Deng in a package deal outta LA this summer.

He can rebound but he can't shoot and his T-Rex arms keep him from rim protecting worth a damn. BTW, Nance Jr. > Randle.

[LkrFan]

I hate the Lakers and their front running Warrior fans, also can't stand his dumb ass dad, but I'm on the lonzo gon be good wagon. There is just something about his court awareness / passing that can't be taught. He isn't super athletic, but his height and length will help compensate for the transition to the NBA

I will say this though, guys are going to go at him hard and right away. He won't get any leeway because of his dad's loud mouth, but the kid has got some real talent.

I see his talent, but I worry about him reaching his full potential when his obnoxious dad undermines Luke thru the media if things aren't going well and we're losing.

I am intrigued with possibly seeing 6'6" Ball (PG), 6'5" D'Bust (Combo Guard) and 6'9" BI (SF) grow together. That's a nice li'l core to build upon for the future.

LaVar gives me serious pause to the above possibilities. I'm not sure if Lonzo's talent is worth the inevitable headache that comes with his dad.

[The Gemini Method]

After hearing that interview of Levar on the Herd, I wasn't too keen on drafting Lonzo. But we'll see what Magic wants to do and what direction they go. But that if that was a microcosm of what's to come, it will wear thin for sure.

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I see his talent, but I worry about him reaching his full potential when his obnoxious dad undermines Luke thru the media if things aren't going well and we're losing.

I am intrigued with possibly seeing 6'6" Ball (PG), 6'5" D'Bust (Combo Guard) and 6'9" BI (SF) grow together. That's a nice li'l core to build upon for the future.

LaVar gives me serious pause to the above possibilities. I'm not sure if Lonzo's talent is worth the inevitable headache that comes with his dad.

After hearing that interview of Levar on the Herd, I wasn't too keen on drafting Lonzo. But we'll see what Magic wants to do and what direction they go. But that if that was a microcosm of what's to come, it will wear thin for sure.

It's just distant noise. If he's B+ or above talent it won't matter an iota. B & below it won't matter either. He can stand over there with the rest of that horde. We got a load of 'em. He'll blend right in.

[LkrFan]

It's just distant noise. If he's B+ or above talent it won't matter an iota. B & below it won't matter either. He can stand over there with the rest of that horde. We got a load of 'em. He'll blend right in.

- I hope you right Cubby. I'm more nervous about drafting Lonzo than Coach Pop be in an elimination game