Welcome to SA, CP3

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

CP3 wants to win. He's always been a compe or. The Warriors are probably trying to figure out how to sign him as we speak.

The way stars have been aligning for the Warriors Ballmer might go bankrupt before july.

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Over 20 for all of them, maybe 25 at the cheapest.

Jrue might be the best hope.

He turns 27 in June, the perfect age to be with Kawhi. Great size and length, no nightmares over needing to hide him somewhere like Parker and Mills.

And family and off court issues are what seem to be most important to him. Spurs still have Monty Williams, and they were said to be close, so the whole 'Spurs Culture' might be the difference here.

I don't even worry too much about his injury history, I chalk a lot up to the medical team in New Orleans not being up to par and shared with the Saints. Look at Gordon and Ryan Anderson, as soon as they leave, they're healthy all year.

I don't think so. It's similar to the Mills situation, just on a bigger scale: they need to take advantage of his Bird rights, since don't have the means to replace him. Plus, Demps is on thin ice anyway (likely making him less concerned about paying whatever it takes to keep him) and his style of play and personality is probably the best possible fit with Davis and Cousins.

I like how he'd fit with Spurs, but I'd actually rather max out Paul than any other point guard option. Like I said yesterday, if they're going to be in, be all the way in. Don't make all the necessary moves to free up the requisite cap space to spend big on good but not great which isn't going to move the needle.

It's all more than likely moot anyway, since every significant point guard with the possible exception of Lowry, is expected to re-sign.

[objective]

I don't think so. It's similar to the Mills situation, just on a bigger scale: they need to take advantage of his Bird rights, since don't have the means to replace him. Plus, Demps is on thin ice anyway (likely making him less concerned about paying whatever it takes to keep him) and his style of play and personality is probably the best possible fit with Davis and Cousins.

I like how he'd fit with Spurs, but I'd actually rather max out Paul than any other point guard option. Like I said yesterday, if they're going to be in, be all the way in. Don't make all the necessary moves to free up the requisite cap space to spend big on good but not great which isn't going to move the needle.

It's all more than likely moot anyway, since every significant point guard with the possible exception of Lowry, is expected to re-sign.

I think that if Holiday is open to leaving, Spurs would be at the top due to Monty.

New Orleans is really up against it cap and tax wise, and Cousins is a free agent next year looking at what, 30+ million? Dell might be willing to settle on someone he could afford if Holiday leaves in the sub 15 million range like Mills instead of the 25 on Holiday, instead counting on Cousins and Davis to carry the day.

I'd probably rather have Paul also, but considering how he was a part of the new rules that benefit himself, I doubt he takes any paycut.

So if the choice is Paul for 35 or instead Holiday+Dedmon for 35 ....

Give me Holiday and the big.

[TD 21]

I think that if Holiday is open to leaving, Spurs would be at the top due to Monty.

New Orleans is really up against it cap and tax wise, and Cousins is a free agent next year looking at what, 30+ million? Dell might be willing to settle on someone he could afford if Holiday leaves in the sub 15 million range like Mills instead of the 25 on Holiday, instead counting on Cousins and Davis to carry the day.

I'd probably rather have Paul also, but considering how he was a part of the new rules that benefit himself, I doubt he takes any paycut.

So if the choice is Paul for 35 or instead Holiday+Dedmon for 35 ....

Give me Holiday and the big.

Fair enough. I'd generally agree with two instead of one, but not when it's a clear cut top 10 player. That's more important than anything.

Besides, veteran ring chasers are more likely to accept the minimum for a chance to play with Leonard and Paul and there's some options at 29 that could serve as the rim rolling lob threat (including Bell, who could be a plug-and-play option).

I actually think, despite Paul helping to negotiate the new rules that benefit him, he'd consider giving up the 5th year to join the Spurs. The primary reason I don't see him coming is, it would be extremely difficult for the Spurs to carve out max cap space. Gasol is the obvious one, but one of Aldridge or Parker would have to go as well. The former, despite his down season, would still likely be a selling point in the recruitment and the latter, they'd have to be willing to end his tenure (I don't believe they'd do this and considering Paul is good friends with him, I doubt he'd do this) and attact a future protected 1st to salary dump him.

[coachmac87]

Fair enough. I'd generally agree with two instead of one, but not when it's a clear cut top 10 player. That's more important than anything.

Besides, veteran ring chasers are more likely to accept the minimum for a chance to play with Leonard and Paul and there's some options at 29 that could serve as the rim rolling lob threat (including Bell, who could be a plug-and-play option).

I actually think, despite Paul helping to negotiate the new rules that benefit him, he'd consider giving up the 5th year to join the Spurs. The primary reason I don't see him coming is, it would be extremely difficult for the Spurs to carve out max cap space. Gasol is the obvious one, but one of Aldridge or Parker would have to go as well. The former, despite his down season, would still likely be a selling point in the recruitment and the latter, they'd have to be willing to end his tenure (I don't believe they'd do this and considering Paul is good friends with him, I doubt he'd do this) and attact a future protected 1st to salary dump him.

They'd trade LMA before Parker tbh...unless Parker tells them he's done lol.

But would you trade LMA to get Paul? I would without a doubt....

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They'd trade LMA before Parker tbh...unless Parker tells them he's done lol.

But would you trade LMA to get Paul? I would without a doubt....

Of course, but like I said, despite his down season, Aldridge would be one of the selling points for Paul. If he's being dealt with little salary and immediate help coming back and Gasol is being salary dumped, then who's the front line?

And even if Parker is kept, he's still basically done because even if he could be a 15 mpg backup post All-Star break, they wouldn't block Murray in '18-'19 from a rotation spot and they can't play together.

[dabom]

Hope we can get this guy. 2 rings easy.

[dabom]

I hope we don't have snitches on my threads btw.

[coachmac87]

They'd trade LMA before Parker tbh...unless Parker tells them he's done lol.

But would you trade LMA to get Paul? I would without a doubt....

Maybe I'm off or wrong..but I don't think it matters to Paul if LMA is on the team or not. Kawhi, Pop, Culture and getting away from Clipper drama...

But you answered the question yes so maybe you see what I see..??

I want Kawhi and Paul core and fill in the pieces the compliment their game etc...

[spursistan]

Let's just hope this isn't the free agency version of "Kawhi's healed ankle" thread

[dabom]

Let's just hope this isn't the free agency version of "Kawhi's healed ankle" thread

I hope we don't have snitches on my threads btw.

Caught one.

[BatManu20]

[kaji157]

The reality it's that it's very difficult for the spurs to put up an offer better than a 4 year 80 million contract. Usually that would be compe ive, but that is not the case anymore when players can make 200 millions in that span.

[DaBears]

** Its been mentioned sources close to both camps say this will not happen, not due to either party not wanting it, just too much of a money thing... Spurs would need to get rid of a lot of pieces to free up the cash to get him and then more than likely make some sort of trade on other contracts. And that will not make you much of a better squad then what is in place..

Mentioned to make this work in any good scenario things that would need to happen, but wont..

Pau Gasol -- would want to opt out contract
Trade Danny Green
Let go Simmons
Let go Patty
Have Manu retire
restructure TP last yr of contract and spread it over 2-3 seasons.

** I don't see it happening.. Doesn't mean I would like to see it happen, Spurs would just need to give up to much and I am not sure it would be worth it

[TheGreatYacht]

** Its been mentioned sources close to both camps say this will not happen, not due to either party not wanting it, just too much of a money thing... Spurs would need to get rid of a lot of pieces to free up the cash to get him and then more than likely make some sort of trade on other contracts. And that will not make you much of a better squad then what is in place..

Mentioned to make this work in any good scenario things that would need to happen, but wont..

Pau Gasol -- would want to opt out contract
Trade Danny Green
Let go Simmons
Let go Patty
Have Manu retire
restructure TP last yr of contract and spread it over 2-3 seasons.

** I don't see it happening.. Doesn't mean I would like to see it happen, Spurs would just need to give up to much and I am not sure it would be worth it

Link?

[$pursDynasty]

** Its been mentioned sources close to both camps say this will not happen, not due to either party not wanting it, just too much of a money thing... Spurs would need to get rid of a lot of pieces to free up the cash to get him and then more than likely make some sort of trade on other contracts. And that will not make you much of a better squad then what is in place..

Mentioned to make this work in any good scenario things that would need to happen, but wont..

Pau Gasol -- would want to opt out contract
Trade Danny Green
Let go Simmons
Let go Patty
Have Manu retire
restructure TP last yr of contract and spread it over 2-3 seasons.

** I don't see it happening.. Doesn't mean I would like to see it happen, Spurs would just need to give up to much and I am not sure it would be worth it

Now I am a bit confused because I can see where some of that has to happen but not all of it. A) because a privso of this scenario is that he has to take less than the absolute max, B) if it takes all that when he is taking less than the max then how do other teams (ahem Cavs and Dubs) pull it off (picking up FA's when their roster is pretty much stacked with players making a good bit of coin)?

[coachmac87]

** Its been mentioned sources close to both camps say this will not happen, not due to either party not wanting it, just too much of a money thing... Spurs would need to get rid of a lot of pieces to free up the cash to get him and then more than likely make some sort of trade on other contracts. And that will not make you much of a better squad then what is in place..

Mentioned to make this work in any good scenario things that would need to happen, but wont..

Pau Gasol -- would want to opt out contract
Trade Danny Green
Let go Simmons
Let go Patty
Have Manu retire
restructure TP last yr of contract and spread it over 2-3 seasons.

** I don't see it happening.. Doesn't mean I would like to see it happen, Spurs would just need to give up to much and I am not sure it would be worth it

Talking out ya ass

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Talking out ya ass

He's not - pretty much all of these need to happen for the Spurs to have enough cap space for Paul. They could keep Simmons's cap hold, which is small, though.

[Russ]

Be careful . . .

[coachmac87]

He's not - pretty much all of these need to happen for the Spurs to have enough cap space for Paul. They could keep Simmons's cap hold, which is small, though.

We all know what needs to be done or could be done....

But he's talking out of his ass regarding both sides already came to a conclusion it won't happen....he's full of

[Mnky]

Getting rid of Pau Gasols contract goes a long way. It wouldn't be nearly as difficult as people are making it out to be. Tony parker would be the real issue. If they had a chance at CP3, it would likely come at the Parkers expense. which is hard to phantom.

[baseline bum]

Getting rid of Pau Gasols contract goes a long way. It wouldn't be nearly as difficult as people are making it out to be. Tony parker would be the real issue. If they had a chance at CP3, it would likely come at the Parkers expense. which is hard to phantom.

They could create enough capspace to sign Paul by salary dumping Aldridge.

[DaBears]

Now I am a bit confused because I can see where some of that has to happen but not all of it. A) because a privso of this scenario is that he has to take less than the absolute max, B) if it takes all that when he is taking less than the max then how do other teams (ahem Cavs and Dubs) pull it off (picking up FA's when their roster is pretty much stacked with players making a good bit of coin)?

CP3 can get 200+mil if he signs resigns with Clippers, only 140+mil if he signs with any other team.. So the difference in salary is where the other players affected come into play.

[Mnky]

They could create enough capspace to sign Paul by salary dumping Aldridge.

I just dont see the spurs being an attractive place without Aldridge tbh . He had a horrendous playoff run, but at the end of the day he is still by far a better system player than Gasol or likely free agent signings. I think they have to have another notable player for cp3 to be interested. Lma was doing great as the second fiddle that first game. Maybe the experience will help humble him and help him embrace that role more so.


Unless there was a trade such for a Julius randle or someone who can run with cp3, i dont see the loss of Aldridge as a good bargaining chip. We have to have someone outside of kawhi to sell.

[DaBears]

on a different thread topic, I see DROSE as a better fit than CP3... And Rose would certainly be cheaper...