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    I mean can you really still consider LMA a max player when the new max is upward of $30 mill/yr? Horford got a 4 yr, $113 mill contract. Ibaka is expected to get upwards of $20 mill per, Blake probably upwards of $30 mill per.

    I don't think LMA's contract is that bad in this new CBA, tbh.

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    I mean can you really still consider LMA a max player when the new max is upward of $30 mill/yr? Horford got a 4 yr, $113 mill contract. Ibaka is expected to get upwards of $20 mill per, Blake probably upwards of $30 mill per.

    I don't think LMA's contract is that bad in this new CBA, tbh.
    LMA's salary for next year will be half of what some players will get once they start signing the super max contracts.

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    I mean can you really still consider LMA a max player when the new max is upward of $30 mill/yr? Horford got a 4 yr, $113 mill contract. Ibaka is expected to get upwards of $20 mill per, Blake probably upwards of $30 mill per.

    I don't think LMA's contract is that bad in this new CBA, tbh.
    When Patty is rumored to be making around $17 mill ... we have to open our eyes.
    Lamarcus is fine at that contract. It's not the contract that is problematic but the fact he doesn't have the dog in him. It's going to be up to Kawwi and maybe one or more of the Spurs youngsters grows up.

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    CP3 will make more per year with the Spurs due to state income tax...

    Clippers can offer that 5th year tho

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    He only gets the tax break for games played in Texas and Florida.

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    When Patty is rumored to be making around $17 mill ... we have to open our eyes.
    Lamarcus is fine at that contract. It's not the contract that is problematic but the fact he doesn't have the dog in him. It's going to be up to Kawwi and maybe one or more of the Spurs youngsters grows up.
    Maybe in your head.... Any GM that offers Paddy that kind of money would have to enter witness protection soon after.
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    Aldridge can't pass the ball for . He's starting to remind me of Antoine Walker: a guy who can bury the other team when his shot is falling but who is no good to his team when it isn't. I'd dump him now even if Paul wasn't coming.
    Thats why CP3 would be an ideal fit. LMA would never have to have the ball, but would be running with the best pick and pop PG in the league. Paul can do amazing things with the pick and pop, he turned deandre Jordan into a Max player for crying out loud. Blake Griffin developed a shot, simpy because of how open Paul would get him. I have no doubt Aldridge would benefit greatly from a CP3 matchup. He still rebounds and defends at an elite level for a big in the nba.

    Not defending his no show in the playoffs, but it is hard to get doubled by the best defense in the league, and know where to go when the rest of the players are scared to get open because they dont want the pressure, and all year tony and kawhi always had the ball. To be honest, he wasnt meant to be in that position at all. The spurs lost BOTH of their ball handlers, and fell apart. Aldridges shooting position is not excused, but the ability to be the PG of the team, I won't bash him too much for since he never got that opportunity all year, let alone in the western conference finals against the best defense in the league.


    With all that being said, I believe it's a small chance the spurs get CP3. He would turn the spurs into legitimate threats though. All they needed was one more play maker and/or scorer. Paul is both of those. Losing Gasol, and parker for CP3, wouldn't gut the team to the point of losing legitimacy. But..like I said, small chance.

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    Thats why CP3 would be an ideal fit. LMA would never have to have the ball, but would be running with the best pick and pop PG in the league. Paul can do amazing things with the pick and pop, he turned deandre Jordan into a Max player for crying out loud. Blake Griffin developed a shot, simpy because of how open Paul would get him. I have no doubt Aldridge would benefit greatly from a CP3 matchup. He still rebounds and defends at an elite level for a big in the nba.

    Not defending his no show in the playoffs, but it is hard to get doubled by the best defense in the league, and know where to go when the rest of the players are scared to get open because they dont want the pressure, and all year tony and kawhi always had the ball. To be honest, he wasnt meant to be in that position at all. The spurs lost BOTH of their ball handlers, and fell apart. Aldridges shooting position is not excused, but the ability to be the PG of the team, I won't bash him too much for since he never got that opportunity all year, let alone in the western conference finals against the best defense in the league.


    With all that being said, I believe it's a small chance the spurs get CP3. He would turn the spurs into legitimate threats though. All they needed was one more play maker and/or scorer. Paul is both of those. Losing Gasol, and parker for CP3, wouldn't gut the team to the point of losing legitimacy. But..like I said, small chance.
    THis.

    Paul would be a win-win for LMA. Someone setting him up, while also pushing him down to #3 option and taking the pressure off. But, also agree it's not gonna happen. As the union head Paul worked too hard to get the extra bucks for stars in his very position. He's not leaving 70 million extra on the table.

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    When Patty is rumored to be making around $17 mill ... we have to open our eyes.
    Lamarcus is fine at that contract. It's not the contract that is problematic but the fact he doesn't have the dog in him. It's going to be up to Kawwi and maybe one or more of the Spurs youngsters grows up.
    As a 1st option, sure. Honestly, he might not even be good enough to be a reliable 2nd option. But he'd make a badass 3rd banana if the Spurs were to land CP3. Love was all empty numbers for much of his career as well, even struggled initially in CLE under his current role, seemed soft, didn't come off as a winner, etc. Yet he's doing allright now. I honestly think LMA would be a better 3rd banana than Love, especially when you factor in defense.

    I'd sacrifice anyone outside of Kawhi to land CP3 but LMA would be way down on that list. He definitely wouldn't be the first one I'd sacrifice.

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    When Patty is rumored to be making around $17 mill ... we have to open our eyes.
    Lamarcus is fine at that contract. It's not the contract that is problematic but the fact he doesn't have the dog in him. It's going to be up to Kawwi and maybe one or more of the Spurs youngsters grows up.
    Patty ain't getting 17 million a year Shouldn't surprise me coming from someone who thinks Kyle would be an All-Star if he just got more run.

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    Thats why CP3 would be an ideal fit. LMA would never have to have the ball, but would be running with the best pick and pop PG in the league. Paul can do amazing things with the pick and pop, he turned deandre Jordan into a Max player for crying out loud. Blake Griffin developed a shot, simpy because of how open Paul would get him. I have no doubt Aldridge would benefit greatly from a CP3 matchup. He still rebounds and defends at an elite level for a big in the nba.

    Not defending his no show in the playoffs, but it is hard to get doubled by the best defense in the league, and know where to go when the rest of the players are scared to get open because they dont want the pressure, and all year tony and kawhi always had the ball. To be honest, he wasnt meant to be in that position at all. The spurs lost BOTH of their ball handlers, and fell apart. Aldridges shooting position is not excused, but the ability to be the PG of the team, I won't bash him too much for since he never got that opportunity all year, let alone in the western conference finals against the best defense in the league.


    With all that being said, I believe it's a small chance the spurs get CP3. He would turn the spurs into legitimate threats though. All they needed was one more play maker and/or scorer. Paul is both of those. Losing Gasol, and parker for CP3, wouldn't gut the team to the point of losing legitimacy. But..like I said, small chance.
    Elite rebounder?

    Aldridge got 7.3 boards a game this year. James Harden got more rebounds this year. An elite rebounding big is Jordan pulling almost 14 a game. Almost double what Softridge put up. That's elite.

    Aldridge is pretty average defensively. Once again Jordan is elite defensively, not Aldridge who can't jump more than two inches and doesn't have the work ethic to battle in the paint the way Duncan did on defense. Duncan was elite defensively until that second knee got hurt.

    I'm sick of Aldridge's pick and pop game. He's the Vinny Del Negro of bigmen with his long twos. Get in the ing post and use your size or you're useless. That ing got shot 39% from 10-16 feet and 42% on twos from >16 feet and you want to argue that kind of is a strength?

    And how is he going to benefit from Paul the way Jordan does? Jordan can jump about 10x as high. How many lobs do you see CP3 connecting on with Aldridge?

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    Not defending his no show in the playoffs, but it is hard to get doubled by the best defense in the league
    Is it hard to score on James Harden in single coverage in the post?

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    Maybe in your head.... Any GM that offers Paddy that kind of money would have to enter witness protection soon after.
    I am going by media reports frankly. I didn't pull that out of thin air. He's rumored to get interest tween 12-17 mill. I wouldn't take Patty back frankly even in the lower end, but he deserves a payday. Some team will get him a contract in that range.

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    Patty ain't getting 17 million a year Shouldn't surprise me coming from someone who thinks Kyle would be an All-Star if he just got more run.
    You are just trolling.
    I never said Kyle would be an all-star. He's a roleplayer with a nice all around game. Can do several things well. Is 6'9" 23 years old, rebounds, defends in a team system well, and passes the ball well. Has a high BBiQ and is easy to root for bc he's a team player. I don't just root for stars. I like my roleplayers too.
    You hate him and that's fine for you but that is your subjective opinion trolling and exaggerating.

    The Patty figure has been prints in the media. I have even seen $20 mill fro. EsPN which is outrageous, but other reports say $12-17 mill is the range.I didn't make that up.

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    How does the spurs' max compare to clippers max after state tax has been factored in?

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    Is it hard to score on James Harden in single coverage in the post?
    It's hard to get doubled by the best defense in the league.

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    Elite rebounder?

    Aldridge got 7.3 boards a game this year. James Harden got more rebounds this year. An elite rebounding big is Jordan pulling almost 14 a game. Almost double what Softridge put up. That's elite.

    Aldridge is pretty average defensively. Once again Jordan is elite defensively, not Aldridge who can't jump more than two inches and doesn't have the work ethic to battle in the paint the way Duncan did on defense. Duncan was elite defensively until that second knee got hurt.

    I'm sick of Aldridge's pick and pop game. He's the Vinny Del Negro of bigmen with his long twos. Get in the ing post and use your size or you're useless. That ing got shot 39% from 10-16 feet and 42% on twos from >16 feet and you want to argue that kind of is a strength?

    And how is he going to benefit from Paul the way Jordan does? Jordan can jump about 10x as high. How many lobs do you see CP3 connecting on with Aldridge?
    Due to kawhi and parker being ball dependant he spent plenty of time outside the rebounding area. He was consistently drawn out on offense, and on defense his defender usually dis the same. Can you honestly remember anyone lighting the spurs up with post on Aldridge? Outside of Memphis, who is the besss post team in the league, who else ? Not really anyone. Not taking into account the horrible shooting percentage games the spurs gave up. What's left to rebound when the other team doesn't miss

    The defense was a top defense. Aldridge was a huge part of it.

    You dont have to like him, no one does. He still rebounded and defended well. Thats why the spurs were as good as they were. He imploded horribly on offense and showed he cant be the no 1. Doesn't change the other aspects of his game.

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    It's hard to get doubled by the best defense in the league.
    He was against Houston most of the series and couldn't punish James Harden in the post.

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    Due to kawhi and parker being ball dependant he spent plenty of time outside the rebounding area. He was consistently drawn out on offense, and on defense his defender usually dis the same. Can you honestly remember anyone lighting the spurs up with post on Aldridge? Outside of Memphis, who is the besss post team in the league, who else ? Not really anyone. Not taking into account the horrible shooting percentage games the spurs gave up. What's left to rebound when the other team doesn't miss

    The defense was a top defense. Aldridge was a huge part of it.

    You dont have to like him, no one does. He still rebounded and defended well. Thats why the spurs were as good as they were. He imploded horribly on offense and showed he cant be the no 1. Doesn't change the other aspects of his game.
    Bunch of excuses. His offensive implosion showed he's not a good #2. It's like you only want to talk about the Golden State series when he was crap the entire year and playoffs. at 7.3 rebounds a game being elite.

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    Bunch of excuses. His offensive implosion showed he's not a good #2. It's like you only want to talk about the Golden State series when he was crap the entire year and playoffs. at 7.3 rebounds a game being elite.
    I said he proved he cant carry a team. I even pointed out he had a horirble playoffs offensively. Those are the reasons, not the excuses.. I think youre too emotionally invested in that loss still.

    I want chris paul, because Aldridge has shown he wont carry the team. I'm advocating getting help.

    What can you get for him when his stock is so low? I've said id take a Julius randle trade.

    I'm just being realistic. Spurs were the second best team with Leonard this year. Arguably the best. He was a part of it.

    Just like he was a big part of why the spurs imploded when kawhi went down.

    People dont rebound the same as yesteryear. He's still good at it. Not elite? Thats cool, i can get behind that. I think you're grasping at straws though to avoid the main argument.

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    He was against Houston most of the series and couldn't punish James Harden in the post.
    No one is arguing this.

    Youre one of these posters who creates an argument out of thin air by stating something obvious,and attempting to make it part of the argument.


    LMA was a big part of the strong season. He would play well with cp3, cuz cp3 would make the game as easy as possible for him, which works since he seems to struggle against tough games.

    Pretty simple.

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    Where there's smoke…

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    CP3 is probably using this to pressure the Clips to make some moves. I wonder how Blake's FA decision will tie into this

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