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You need players to win. We need to prioritize CP3. It's foolish to think we can "wait it out for '18". Nothing is guaranteed in this league.
Winning cures...
I would take you more seriously if you said the same thing about Draymmond, not to mention this is still Pop's team..When the Warriors stop winning at this insane rate, you will see the ramifications of Donkey's grating and abrasive style of leadership in the lockeroom especially when you are essentially a super role player on the team..
You need players to win. We need to prioritize CP3. It's foolish to think we can "wait it out for '18". Nothing is guaranteed in this league.
Spurs might, though it seems unlikely, might have a tiny sliver more cap room due to LJC and how they handled his waiving.
Basically, a player waived at the time of year LJC was cut counts differently for stretching. His current year would have been paid normally while any subsequent years would be stretched, provided the Spurs had notified the league when he cleared waivers that they were stretching him.
Then his cap charge for 17-18 wouldn't be 1.036, but rather 345,333.34 over the next three seasons. Meaning they would have an extra 690k in cap room.
They probably didn't stretch him as i would think a site like basketball Insiders would have that information already, but anything is possible i suppose. They were probably keeping things clear for a 2018 plan and not worrying about maximizing room this summer.
I read somewhere that he would make more money in SA than LA due to state taxes( not counting the last year). And yes, I've read a lot on this subject.This is a moot point, anyways, tbh..same as Durant, last year, where the same posters were convinced that he would join the Spurs..
Paul altered the CBA to directly aid his bank account
Your hypothetical scenario is fine, but it's just that, hypothetical..Winning cures...
I would take you more seriously if you said the same thing about Draymmond, not to mention this is still Pop's team
It might be comparable, except Kevin Durant, a top 3 player and generational talent, joined the Warriors with Draymond Green as the primary recruiter
Meanwhile, there have been many reports over the years of Griffin and Jordan hating Paul..just 2 weeks ago, Glen Davis ripped Paul for being unlikable and a bad teammate
I was being sarcastic with the latter point. The point was, there is no perfect player and some all timer, who checks virtually every conceivable box, isn't falling into their lap if they just wait a year or a bunch. The odds of Murray becoming even 75% as good as Paul are slim too and even if he does, it's even lower that it'll happen anytime soon . . . these are things the anti Paul crowd doesn't seem to understand.
This is all just theoretically speaking, of course, since it's all moot anyway. Unlike Durant, I do believe there's mutual interest, but as I've said all along, the timing makes it impractical. If it were '18 and Parker and Gasol were up, I think they'd have a near 50/50 shot.
I agree with you 100.
This is a moot point, anyways, tbh..same as Durant, last year, where the same posters were convinced that he would join the Spurs..
Paul altered the CBA to directly aid his bank account
More like you just don't want him...
Don't get your hopes up again, coach..not good for your heart, my friend
CP3 would be nice...but as long as Murray isn't the starter I'm good...Don't get your hopes up again, coach..not good for your heart, my friend
I just follow my gut..I knew KD wasn't signing in OKC and I don't think CP3 is staying in LAC..you said it yourself he's the reason why their chemistry is what it is..
But will he sign in SA?? I've never seen this much smoke arounf a FA before the season ended tbh...
I believe that Paul would go to the Spurs if he left the Clippers..I just don't believe he would ever leave the super max money, and I don't believe that Ballmer would ever let him depart IMO he's one of the faces of the league, would be disastrous for a franchise that already has image problems..
They will get rid of Griffin(or let him walk) far sooner than ever considering letting Paul go..Rivers isn't accepting a rebuild at any point, either(part of the reason he left Boston)
You're right except when Paul was part of the CBA everyone thought the Clippers were a top 4 team in the NBA. After this year, it's obvious they weren't. Now they potentially lose two or three key players to sign Paul or be way over the cap for a team that will lose in the first round. Does he take the money to play on a team that could miss the playoffs or lose in the first round? Especially when he can make as much after taxes with the Spurs and play with the best player in the NBA.This is a moot point, anyways, tbh..same as Durant, last year, where the same posters were convinced that he would join the Spurs..
Paul altered the CBA to directly aid his bank account
I think it's the opposite. Chemistry issues due to Paul, Griffin is younger and Red is long gone..possibly Doc too. Paul is getting super max money..and it's about the $$ per year which is way more than he has made before.
CP3 wants to win in a big market, not on the Spurs.
Him leaving would do the Clippers a favor. Sure he was a great player this year and he'll be good for two to three more years. But after that? They'll be paying him for two years as a mega star and he'll probably only be serviceable. The bigger question is would the Spurs do what it takes to get him, like trading Parker and Gasol? I'm not convinced the Spurs would do that...they are too loyal and that's a rep they probably want to keep. I just don't see the Spurs swallowing the Paul pill.
That's all fine, but as I said about Durant, last year, our mentality as fans doesn't take everything into consideration..we just assume that players only look at rosters and their legacies, isolating their opportunity to win as the only important factor in these decisions..
We don't make as much money as these guys, so we think "what's the difference? I'll play anywhere for millions and I'll go wherever I can win"..once they reach the level of s om of a LeBron, Durant, Paul, etc, they have a number of factors to consider, particularly their brands(Spurs have been fortunate to have Duncan and Kawhi, since neither has a brand or represents the league in any way off the court)..
I could certainly be wrong, I don't know him personally, obviously..I just need to see a star of that magnitude signing with the Spurs to actually believe it's possible
He's got 2 years left to cement his legacy with a le. He's never even been to the WCF. He can move back to LA, but my guess is he has interest if the Spurs can field a better team. The Clippers he would sign on to look like they will be worse than this year, esp with Doc screwing this team with bad free agent contracts. Paul will seal a legacy of playing on underachieving teams if he stays with the Clips. That can't sit well with a guy famous for his compe iveness.CP3 wants to win in a big market, not on the Spurs.
LMA/Kawhi > Griffin/Jordan even with Aldridge having a postseason. Paul knows Spurs are the only team with championship aspirations that needs a PG. I just think in the end the money will be too much to give up along with lliving/playing in LA
Thats true but Durant signed for less to win...so he is case and point why Paul could leave. I don't think it's inevitable, but I do think it's a strong possibility if the Spurs can field a compe ive team while gutting its roster.That's all fine, but as I said about Durant, last year, our mentality as fans doesn't take everything into consideration..we just assume that players only look at rosters and their legacies, isolating their opportunity to win as the only important factor in these decisions..
We don't make as much money as these guys, so we think "what's the difference? I'll play anywhere for millions and I'll go wherever I can win"..once they reach the level of s om of a LeBron, Durant, Paul, etc, they have a number of factors to consider, particularly their brands(Spurs have been fortunate to have Duncan and Kawhi, since neither has a brand or represents the league in any way off the court)..
I could certainly be wrong, I don't know him personally, obviously..I just need to see a star of that magnitude signing with the Spurs to actually believe it's possible
From what the reports are, if the Spurs can give him a max contract, he'll take home more after taxes than he would signing the super max with the Clippers. Man, those CA taxes are horrendous.
Meh, to me, his compe iveness is mostly show. He wants to win but not at all cost.
Well, it would be really foolish to sign a player to a monster deal, everybody hates.
Maybe. But he's 32 and never sniffed the conference finals. Elite players want more than that. If the Spurs can field a better team than the Clippers while gutting the roster to make room for a max offer to Paul...if I were the Clippers, I'd be scared.
Michael Jordan was hated by his teammates. Not the Chris is Michael, but he's still damn good. Plus look at his teammates...Jordan, Griffin, Austin Rivers...not surprising he has to yell at them. The Spurs are a more classy organization and Pop eliminates the need for him to crack knuckles. Plus the Manu for the Veterans Min becomes a thing.Well, it would be really foolish to sign a player to a monster deal, everybody hates.
CP3 has carried his team's dead weight in the playoffs over the last 3 years tbh. His stats and efficiency get better in the playoffs.
Get him some help....
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