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    New revelations have surfaced that the Obama administration abused intelligence during the election by launching a massive domestic-spy campaign that included snooping on Trump officials.

    The irony is mind-boggling: Targeting political opposition is long a technique of police states like Russia, which Team Obama has loudly condemned for allegedly using its own intelligence agencies to hack into our election.

    The revelations, as well as testimony this week from former Obama intel officials, show the extent to which the Obama administration politicized and weaponized intelligence against Americans.

    Thanks to Circa News, we now know the National Security Agency under President Barack Obama routinely violated privacy protections while snooping through foreign intercepts involving US citizens — and failed to disclose the breaches, prompting the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court a month before the election to rebuke administration officials.

    The story concerns what’s known as “upstream” data collection under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, under which the NSA looks at the content of electronic communication. Upstream refers to intel scooped up about third parties: Person A sends Person B an e-mail mentioning Person C. Though Person C isn’t a party to the e-mail, his information will be scooped up and potentially used by the NSA.

    Further, the number of NSA data searches about Americans mushroomed after Obama loosened rules for protecting such iden ies from government officials and thus the reporters they talk to.

    The FISA court called it a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue” that NSA analysts — in violation of a 2011 rule change prohibiting officials from searching Americans’ information without a warrant — “had been conducting such queries in violation of that prohibition, with much greater frequency than had been previously disclosed to the Court.”

    A number of those searches were made from the White House, and included private citizens working for the Trump campaign, some of whose iden ies were leaked to the media. The revelations earned a stern rebuke from the ACLU and from civil-liberties champion Sen. Rand Paul.

    We also learned this week that Obama intelligence officials really had no good reason attaching a summary of a dossier on Trump to a highly classified Russia briefing they gave to Obama just weeks before Trump took office.

    Under congressional questioning Tuesday, Obama’s CIA chief John Brennan said the dossier did not “in any way” factor into the agency’s assessment that Russia interfered in the election. Why not? Because as Obama intel czar James Clapper earlier testified, “We could not corroborate the sourcing.”

    But that didn’t stop Brennan in January from attaching its contents to the official report for the president. He also included the unverified allegations in the briefing he gave Hill Democrats.

    In so doing, Brennan virtually guaranteed that it would be leaked, which it promptly was.

    In short, Brennan politicized raw intelligence. In fact, he politicized the entire CIA.

    Langley vets say Brennan was the most politicized director in the agency’s history. Former CIA field-operations officer Gene Coyle said Brennan was “known as the greatest sycophant in the history of the CIA, and a supporter of Hillary Clinton before the election. I find it hard to put any real credence in anything that the man says.”

    Coyle noted that Brennan broke with his predecessors who stayed out of elections. Several weeks before the vote, he made it very clear he was pulling for Hillary. His deputy Mike Morell even came out and publicly endorsed her in The New York Times, claiming Trump was an “unwitting agent” of Moscow.

    Brennan isn’t just a Democrat. He’s a radical leftist who in 1980 — during the height of the Cold War — voted for a Communist Party candidate for president.

    When Brennan rants about the dangers of strongman Vladimir Putin targeting our elections and subverting our democratic process, does he not catch at least a glimpse of his own reflection?

    What he and the rest of the Obama gang did has inflicted more damage on the integrity of our electoral process than anything the Russians have done.

    http://nypost.com/2017/05/26/how-tea...-the-election/

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    Spurstalk Lib s avoiding this thread like the plague
    youre right, when tsa posts opinion pieces, we should be flocking to comment

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    youre right, when tsa posts opinion pieces, we should be flocking to comment
    You have no excuse for not commenting on this article

    Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

    http://circa.com/politics/barack-oba...g-on-americans


    May 24, 2017

    The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall, according to once top-secret do ents that chronicle some of the most serious cons utional abuses to date by the U.S. intelligence community.

    More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.

    The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.

    The normally supportive court censured administration officials, saying the failure to disclose the extent of the violations earlier amounted to an “ins utional lack of candor” and that the improper searches cons uted a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue,” according to a recently unsealed court do ent dated April 26, 2017.

    The admitted violations undercut one of the primary defenses that the intelligence community and Obama officials have used in recent weeks to justify their snooping into incidental NSA intercepts about Americans.


    The FISA court opinion

    Circa has reported that there was a three-fold increase in NSA data searches about Americans and a rise in the unmasking of U.S. person’s iden ies in intelligence reports after Obama loosened the privacy rules in 2011.

    Officials like former National Security Adviser Susan Rice have argued their activities were legal under the so-called minimization rule changes Obama made, and that the intelligence agencies were strictly monitored to avoid abuses.

    The intelligence court and the NSA’s own internal watchdog found that not to be true.

    “Since 2011, NSA’s minimization procedures have prohibited use of U.S.-person identifiers to query the results of upstream Internet collections under Section 702,” the unsealed court ruling declared. “The Oct. 26, 2016 notice informed the court that NSA analysts had been conducting such queries inviolation of that prohibition, with much greater frequency than had been previously disclosed to the Court.”

    Speaking Wednesday on Fox News, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said there was an apparent effort under the Obama Administration to increase the number of unmaskings of Americans.

    "If we determine this to be true, this is an enormous abuse of power," Paul said. “This will dwarf all other stories.”

    “There are hundreds and hundreds of people,” Paul added.

    The American Civil Liberties Union said the newly disclosed violations are some of the most serious to ever be do ented and strongly call into question the U.S. intelligence community’s ability to police itself and safeguard American’s privacy as guaranteed by the Cons ution’s Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure.

    “I think what this emphasizes is the shocking lack of oversight of these programs,” said Neema Singh Guliani, the ACLU’s legislative counsel in Washington.

    “You have these problems going on for years that only come to the attention of the court late in the game and then it takes additional years to change its practices.

    “I think it does call into question all those defenses that we kept hearing, that we always have a robust oversight structure and we have culture of adherence to privacy standards,” she added. “And the headline now is they actually haven’t been in compliacne for years and the FISA court itself says in its opinion is that the NSA suffers from a culture of a lack of candor.”

    The NSA acknowledged it self-disclosed the mass violations to the court last fall and that in April it took the extraordinary step of suspending the type of searches that were violating the rules, even deleting prior collected data on Americans to avoid any further violations.

    “NSA will no longer collect certain internet communications that merely mention a foreign intelligence target,” the agency said in the statement that was dated April 28 and placed on its Web site without capturing much media or congressional attention.

    In question is the collection of what is known as upstream “about data”about an American that is collected even though they were not directly in contact with a foreigner that the NSA was legally allowed to intercept.

    The NSA said it doesn't have the ability to stop collecting ‘about’ information on Americans, “without losing some other important data. ” It, however, said it would stop the practice to “reduce the chance that it would acquire communication of U.S. persons or others who are not in direct contact with a foreign intelligence target.”

    The NSA said it also plans to “delete the vast majority of its upstream internet data to further protect the privacy of U.S. person communications.”

    Agency officials called the violations “inadvertent compliance lapses.” But the court and IG do ents suggest the NSA had not developed a technological way to comply with the rules they had submitted to the court in 2011.

    Officials "explained that NSA query compliance is largely maintained through a series of manual checks" and had not "included the proper limiters" to prevent unlawful searches, the NSA internal watchdog reported in a top secret report in January that was just declassified. A new system is being developed now, officials said.

    The NSA conducts thousand of searches a year on data involving Americans and the actual numbers of violations were redacted from the do ents Circa reviewed.

    But a chart in the report showed there three types of violations, the most frequent being 5.2 percent of the time when NSA Section 702 upstream data on U.S. persons was searched.

    The inspector general also found noncompliance between 0.7 percent and 1.4 percent of the time involving NSA activities in which there was a court order to target an American for spying but the rules were still not followed. Those activities are known as Section 704 and Section 705 spying.



    Review | The NSA inspector general's highly redacted chart showing privacy violations.

    The IG report spared few words for the NSA’s efforts before the disclosure to ensure it was complying with practices, some that date to rules issued in 2008 in the final days of the Bush administration and others that Obama put into effect in 2011.

    “We found that the Agency controls for monitoring query compliance have not been completely developed,” the inspector general reported, citing problems ranging from missing requirements for do entation to the failure to complete controls that would ensure “query compliance.”

    The NSA’s Signal Intelligence Directorate, the nation’s main foreign surveillance arm, wrote a letter back to the IG saying it agreed with the findings and that “corrective action plans” are in the works.

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    i dont know wtf circa is but i know your sources are generally garbage

    didnt read and wont read

    go suck cernovics some more, got

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    i dont know wtf circa is but i know your sources are generally garbage

    didnt read and wont read

    go suck cernovics some more, got
    What a ing cop out you huge pussy

    What's your excuse going to be for not commenting on the actual FISC court opinion?

    https://www.scribd.com/mobile/do e...er-Apr-2017-4?

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    Because Fascists do what Fascists do. Take Ls.

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    What a ing cop out you huge pussy

    What's your excuse going to be for not commenting on the actual FISC court opinion?

    https://www.scribd.com/mobile/do e...er-Apr-2017-4?

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    my excuse is you are a proven liar and an idiot. so theres no reason to spend any time reading anything you share. if you can use that excuse to skip articles from msm sources you dont trust, i can use it on a ing re who still believes in pizzagate.

    much easier and more fun to just mercilessly mock you. this is who you are now.

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    my excuse is you are a proven liar and an idiot. so theres no reason to spend any time reading anything you share. if you can use that excuse to skip articles from msm sources you dont trust, i can use it on a ing re who still believes in pizzagate.

    much easier and more fun to just mercilessly mock you. this is who you are now.
    I'm not a pussy and don't skip articles I don't trust, I try and refute them.
    You're a huge ing pussy who makes excuses and runs instead of refuting.
    untrustworthy FISC do ents

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    I'm not a pussy and don't skip articles I don't trust, I try and refute them.
    You're a huge ing pussy who makes excuses and runs instead of refuting.
    untrustworthy FISC do ents
    you refused to read an article by seth rich's parents because you were too lazy to use incognito mode

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    you refused to read an article by seth rich's parents because you were too lazy to use incognito mode

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    guys why isn't the MSM talking about this story that's about a month old

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/u...vacy.html?_r=0
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/natio...ry?id=47094647

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    The election wasn't hacked by anyone. The DNC was hacked by an unsophisticated phish email.

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    Neither article comes close to describing the abuses described in the FISC rebuke

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    you refused to read an article by seth rich's parents because you were too lazy to use incognito mode
    no , lol this hypocritical lying ass got

    his definition of refuting is
    illegal deep state leaks
    msm cant be trusted
    you dont care​ enough to copy and paste the entire article for me to read it

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    Spurstalk Lib s avoiding this thread like the plague
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    This all seems like pretty old news attached to a new headline.

    We know the Obama Administration played fast and loose with privacy and surveillance. We know they were surveilling Russian communications and that Trump campaign associates were a part of some of those discussions. (Most reasonable people by now would acknowledge there was good reason to do so.) The Post column tries and fails to connect these two things into a more sinister single scandal.

    The lesson to be learned is to keep the IC accountable against future abuses, but we also know that OP wouldn't give two s about the Trump Administration doing exactly the same thing to the next Dem candidate, so concern rings hollow tbh.

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    3 stopped in and 0 have actually discussed the topic
    I propose we create a 'safe space' sub-forum so they can discuss things without petty things like facts and statistics ruining the general consensus. A place where you can express your feelings without being subjected to 'hate speech' and the KKK/racists/fascists of Spurstalk.

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    I propose we create a 'safe space' sub-forum so they can discuss things without petty things like facts and statistics ruining the general consensus. A place where you can express your feelings without being subjected to 'hate speech' and the KKK/racists/fascists of Spurstalk.
    i propose you two get a room

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    i propose you two get a room
    From what I understand, TSA likes to butt . In a tent.

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    I propose we create a 'safe space' sub-forum so they can discuss things without petty things like facts and statistics ruining the general consensus. A place where you can express your feelings without being subjected to 'hate speech' and the KKK/racists/fascists of Spurstalk.
    so you propose creating a safe space for people who never requested a safe space

    be careful, you just might be the thing you despise

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    Neither article comes close to describing the abuses described in the FISC rebuke
    of course they do. heck the abc article specifically mentions the egregious abuse of section 702, exactly what your OP is discussing. like sperm said, the difference is that the OP tries to tie in the russia investigations by innuendo

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    of course they do. heck the abc article specifically mentions the egregious abuse of section 702, exactly what your OP is discussing. like sperm said, the difference is that the OP tries to tie in the russia investigations by innuendo
    It's actually pretty ridiculous that FISA was established as a result of the same acts from Nixon in Watergate... talk about a law intending to do good, bring transparency and weed out corruption morphing into an opaque, secret surveillance tool due to abuses and muh terrerists...

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    Fake media

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