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He was the first person that I heard report this as a possibility...and that was before the season started. So now he doesn't know where this came from?
Hard to call Gasol a big name free agent. Maybe in 2014 when he could have really helped the team backing up Duncan, but 2016 he was just the default choice once Durant went west.Every off season ST is excited that the Spurs are going to land a big name free agent but the only times it has happened was LMA & Gasol...both now hated by ST.
He was the first person that I heard report this as a possibility...and that was before the season started. So now he doesn't know where this came from?
thanks for sharing.
It does look very uphill... specially bc I think Spurs would need to do something with Tony's contract (waive it, stretch it, dump it somewhere, etc... ) and dat loyalty though...
I also see it as unlikely in general with CP3 agent likely just trying to generate enough intrigue to pressure the Clippers.
Well, ya know if the Spurs attach some high upside player that has a lot of potential and is starting to come into his own, a Summer league MVP type player who likes to end seasons with a bang but doesn't receive enough playing time to get exploited, I mean to show off his skills set during the bulk of the regular season (mind is drawing a blank here) to Tony's contract, maybe the Spurs could find a taker. That team could dump Parker and the Spurs could pick him up in a year's time (loyalty). Meanwhile, he'll have a full season to recuperate from his ruptured quad. Now, if only the Spurs had a player on the roster that could fit that description...... Sure, you'll lose a high upside player and that would suck but, sometimes you have to make a tough sacrifice in order to make the team better.thanks for sharing.
It does look very uphill... specially bc I think Spurs would need to do something with Tony's contract (waive it, stretch it, dump it somewhere, etc... ) and dat loyalty though...
I also see it as unlikely in general with CP3 agent likely just trying to generate enough intrigue to pressure the Clippers.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 05-28-2017 at 07:33 PM.
You're right that the Spurs would have to make tough choices to get max cap space this season. But if the Spurs made them and got Paul, would they even be better than Paul resigning with the Clippers (assuming the Clippers bring everyone back)?thanks for sharing.
It does look very uphill... specially bc I think Spurs would need to do something with Tony's contract (waive it, stretch it, dump it somewhere, etc... ) and dat loyalty though...
I also see it as unlikely in general with CP3 agent likely just trying to generate enough intrigue to pressure the Clippers.
Goodness... You guys need a "safe word".
Woj is right about having to gut the roster. From Marc Stein:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...tar-chris-paulEven if the Spurs renounce the rights to looming free agents Manu Ginobili, Patty Mills and Jonathon Simmons as well as potential free agents Dewayne Dedmon and David Lee, they would still face complicated decisions on San Antonio mainstay Tony Parker and possibly both Pau Gasol and Danny Green.
It is unclear how soon Parker, 35, will be able to play again after suffering a ruptured quadriceps tendon in his left leg during the second round of the playoffs. Releasing Parker via the waive-and-stretch provision or trying to trade him are among the unfriendly options San Antonio would be forced to consider to create the requisite cap space for a run at Paul and presumably any other top free-agent guard, such as Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry or former Spur George Hill.
The Spurs' cap picture would look decidedly more favorable if former All-Star big man Gasol decides to decline his $16.2 million player option for next season. But if Gasol opts to play out his current contract, San Antonio would probably have to explore the trade market for Gasol and/or Green, depending on what happens with Parker and the team's other free agents.
Even Stein i doubt does the math himself, only going by what he hears.
Most simple math:
To start a salary at 30 million, they just renounce Dedmon, Mills, Manu and Lee, dump Pau and stretch Parker. They could still re-sign both Lee and Manu with 1+1 player option minimums. For Manu, if he retired after the first year but was waived for the second to get his money, that would be 4.77 million for 1 year.
They wouldn't have to renounce Simmons or trade Green.
If they needed to get closer to 35 million starting salary, they could not bring over Milutinov, trade or stash their 2017 first rounder, dump Anderson, and maybe after all that renounce Simmons.
It basically comes down to Pau and Parker because Mills and Dedmon might out of their hands with regards to free agency. Let's be honest: if they want Paul, they aren't going to keep Parker around to be the backup.
oh boy... you have some attachment to trolling about the same thing, it's some ADHD next level .
Unless Tony retires I find it hard for the Spurs to waive him, trade him, etc. I really can't see that happening, maybe he retires who knows? I don't see that happening either.
He would need to be put on a time out.. but he knows not when to stop...
Stop pressing that q-tip when there is resistanse Czar!
Bottom line that is what it comes down to. I mean CP3 maybe doesn't want to relocate, leave money or whatever and this is just a ploy to pressure the Clippers organization, but for the Spurs it does require moving on from Tony. Even with his injury, I have a hard time seeing them pressuring him to retire.
Not necessarily, they can stretch or salary dump Tony so he can rehab during the whole next season and resign him for the 18-19 season.
He can go rehab in Asvel followed closely by the Spurs.
And as far as gutting the roster, Parker didn't even play most of the second round or all the WCF. Parker's injury, rehab and age mean he won't be too great even if he plays.
Dedmon barely played as well in that same time frame.
So if we're talking about the same WCF squad being "gutted" it's just exchanging Paul/Hill/Holiday/Lowry for Mills, whicb is a giant upgrade, and losing Pau, who was a disappointing bench player against GSW.
Who might be better replaced by Milutinov anyway, as far as finishing and pick and roll defense goes.
Lose some of Pau's experience, sure.
The political will is a different story.
But i think that's separate from the roster impact narrative these media guys are pushing
Some pics of Chris Paul in a Spurs jersey from 2K.
He would need to be put on a time out.. but he knows not when to stop...
Stop pressing that q-tip when there is resistanse Czar!
Is that Ginosebleed? There's no point in bringing CP3 here if that glorified Carlos Delfino is still getting minutes.Some pics of Chris Paul in a Spurs jersey from 2K.
But his 1st year salary would be $35.6 mil assuming the cap stays as projected, thus the gut the roster stuff, which is absolutely true. If we're talking hypotheticals where he takes even more than a $54 mil paycut that's a different story, but highly unlikely.
Yeah, this doesn't seem even close to realistic money wise. Not sure why people are thinking that this is going to happen?
Bottom line, though is, they need to get a team around Kawhi that can legitimately compete for a Championship. Anything else wouldn't be acceptable. He's worked so hard to get to this point, he deserves to be competing for Championships year in and year out. If not, I don't/won't blame him if he wants to move on somewhere else.
Last edited by Ice009; 05-29-2017 at 12:55 AM.
^I'll take Manu for one more year at the minimum playing 5 minutes a game against scrubs. Anything else, off.
"Gutting the roster" means dropping dead weight that's just holding us back. Lots of players on this roster who would be additions by subtraction.
Getting Gasol, LMA, and Parker off our books would be a good start, CP3 or otherwise.
TBH Parker injury really throws a wrench in the Spurs master plan. This same team or close to this same team could make the same run next year as this year, which is best case in the GSW era. If TP was healthy, the whole Paul thing wouldn't even be a discussion. And 2018 would be the year of retool without any tough decisions. With TP out and Murray still too inexperienced, the Spurs are in a jam. They either have to overpay Patty, gut the team for Paul (which does nothing to ensure we beat a healthy Warrior team), or we pay some other PG, which is probably on the cheap and probably doesn't help much. Just bad luck.
I don't see many scenarios where Paul ends up a Spur. He's not leaving all that money on the table when it will be the last time to get it.
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