Warriors: 38/8/8

[lebomb]

KD had a great game no doubt. But, lets not get carried away. Lets see how he does the entire series before we make final judgments.

[djohn2oo8]

So CN wants to complain about Durant being beta when LeBron started all this ?

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lol "Alpha"... a real "alpha" would have finished off the Warriors with a 3-1 lead last year, not choked, quit, and joined them in the offseason.

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So CN wants to complain about Durant being beta when LeBron started all this ?

LeBron left a team whose GM thought getting washed up Shaq, washed up Ben Wallace, washed up Antawn Jamison, and losers like Mo Williams and Anthony Parker was a sufficient supporting cast to compete. Durant left a team with the MVP and a ton of frontcourt depth who would have had a real shot at a le every year.

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So CN wants to complain about Durant being beta when LeBron started all this ?

That's the line Media set & CN followed right in. You've done likewise, dj. I've seen ya. They bark & you come a runnin'.

[hitmanyr2k]

LeBron left a team whose GM thought getting washed up Shaq, washed up Ben Wallace, washed up Antawn Jamison, and losers like Mo Williams and Anthony Parker was a sufficient supporting cast to compete. Durant left a team with the MVP and a ton of frontcourt depth who would have had a real shot at a le every year.

Let's not get it twisted. Durant left a team with a low IQ bonehead chucker who never met a shot he didn't like This season just magnified what a chucker hero-baller Westbrook really is. MVP though. Today's NBA

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Let's not get it twisted. Durant left a team with a low IQ bonehead chucker who never met a shot he didn't like This season just magnified what a chucker hero-baller Westbrook really is. MVP though. Today's NBA

Durant left a le contender. James left a Cleveland team with nothing but dog around him and no real prospects for improving. Unless djohn is referring to LeBron leaving Miami, which I still think was about James being pissed he took a paycut to sign Mike Miller only to have Mickey Arison amnesty the guy. I'd be angry in James' shoes then because he didn't take a paycut to put more money into the owner's bank account, especially after Miller was an important part of their 2013 Finals win and his absence was evident in the 2014 Finals when Miami had no one else to go to as Chalmers the bed. Either way, Durant abandoning his team was nothing like what James did.

[Ice009]

Those stats came off wide-open shots created by the sheer amount of defensive attention that Curry is drawing. Durbeta is literally thumping his chest and bragging about the equivalent of shooting in an empty gym.

"Alpha"... a real "alpha" would have finished off the Warriors with a 3-1 lead last year, not choked, quit, and joined them in the offseason.

Truer words have not been spoken.

[Killakobe81]

LeBron left a team whose GM thought getting washed up Shaq, washed up Ben Wallace, washed up Antawn Jamison, and losers like Mo Williams and Anthony Parker was a sufficient supporting cast to compete. Durant left a team with the MVP and a ton of frontcourt depth who would have had a real shot at a le every year.

You gloss over the fact LeBron lobbied for some of those guys just like he begged for a BACKUP PG ...and got Dwill. Who was horrible last night.LeBron didnt stay and lead his team ... he went back ...if Durant is beta so is LeBron he just followed the blueprints...

[Killakobe81]

Btw if LeBron loses i bet cp3 and or melo end up in Cleveland...
He will superfriend it up again ...

[djohn2oo8]

LeBron left a team whose GM thought getting washed up Shaq, washed up Ben Wallace, washed up Antawn Jamison, and losers like Mo Williams and Anthony Parker was a sufficient supporting cast to compete. Durant left a team with the MVP and a ton of frontcourt depth who would have had a real shot at a le every year.

And LeBron in his prime joined two other All Stars still in theirs. Did that not set the precedent? The Playoffs are unwatchable because of it.

[djohn2oo8]

You gloss over the fact LeBron lobbied for some of those guys just like he begged for a BACKUP PG ...and got Dwill. Who was horrible last night.LeBron didnt stay and lead his team ... he went back ...if Durant is beta so is LeBron he just followed the blueprints...

This. LeBron lobbied for Shaq. Antwan Jamison. Oh and he lobbied for Tristan Thompson to get that fat ass contract. It's time to stop absolving him of blame.

[djohn2oo8]

And LeBron lobbied for K. Love. At one point he lobbied for Stoudamire right before he broke down .

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And LeBron in his prime joined two other All Stars still in theirs. Did that not set the precedent? The Playoffs are unwatchable because of it.

It's not even close to the same thing, and the only Finals that weren't compe ive after James went to Miami were in 2012 (even though the 2012 Thunder were by far the most talented team he faced in the Finals while in Miami). If James was already in Miami and left Wade to go play for Boston in 09 then you'd have something similar to Durant's move.

[baseline bum]

This. LeBron lobbied for Shaq. Antwan Jamison. Oh and he lobbied for Tristan Thompson to get that fat ass contract. It's time to stop absolving him of blame.

I don't remember Jamison. I remember him being somewhat excited about Shaq.

[hitmanyr2k]

It's not even close to the same thing, and the only Finals that weren't compe ive after James went to Miami were in 2012 (even though the 2012 Thunder were by far the most talented team he faced in the Finals while in Miami). If James was already in Miami and left Wade to go play for Boston in 09 then you'd have something similar to Durant's move.

It's really no different though lol. Lebron & friends colluded and formed a super-team basically depriving two other teams of their franchise players making the Eastern Conference that much weaker.

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It's really no different though lol. Lebron & friends colluded and formed a super-team basically depriving two other teams of their franchise players making the Eastern Conference that much weaker.

How is it not different to leave a garbage supporting cast vs leaving a championship supporting cast to go play for the team you choked to?

[lebomb]

It's really no different though lol. Lebron & friends colluded and formed a super-team basically depriving two other teams of their franchise players making the Eastern Conference that much weaker.

BUT!!! Lebron didnt leave a team that got back door swept and joined the team that back door swept them to guarantee himself a ring. You never saw Tim, Jordan, Bird, Magic, or anyone else do that "cant beat em, then join em ". KD could have asked for a piece or two, or maybe not add a damn thing and get it done that way. The back door sweep should have amped him up enough to try beating them again. I honestly think the Thunder could have won in a rematch. A few adjustments and the back door sweep would not happen again. Thats a true champion IMHO.

[hitmanyr2k]

BUT!!! Lebron didnt leave a team that got back door swept and joined the team that back door swept them to guarantee himself a ring. You never saw Tim, Jordan, Bird, Magic, or anyone else do that "cant beat em, then join em ". KD could have asked for a piece or two, or maybe not add a damn thing and get it done that way. The back door sweep should have amped him up enough to try beating them again. I honestly think the Thunder could have won in a rematch. A few adjustments and the back door sweep would not happen again. Thats a true champion IMHO.

I'm not excusing KD for that. It was a ty move. When comparing the situation of Lebron and KD both are still playing poker. KD just took Lebron one step further. "Ok, Lebron I'll see your ass collusion to form your superteam and raise you joining the team that beat me in the WCF, top that".

[DD]

Arcadian is a massive got

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I'm not excusing KD for that. It was a ty move. When comparing the situation of Lebron and KD both are still playing poker. KD just took Lebron one step further. "Ok, Lebron I'll see your ass collusion to form your superteam and raise you joining the team that beat me in the WCF, top that".

Meh LeBron joined a 47 win Heat team who completely gutted their roster so that the only talent on the team was James, Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Miller. 6-12 the Heat were horrible. Durant joined a 73 win team that dumped an average SF to land him and got an equal value replacement at center while still keeping their top two bench guys in addition to a ridiculous starting lineup. Was Bosh + Miller even close to as good as Green + Thompson? Durant took LeBron about five steps further.

[hitmanyr2k]

Meh LeBron joined a 47 win Heat team who completely gutted their roster so that the only talent on the team was James, Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Miller. 6-12 the Heat were horrible. Durant joined a 73 win team that dumped an average SF to land him and got an equal value replacement at center while still keeping their top two bench guys in addition to a ridiculous starting lineup. Was Bosh + Miller even close to as good as Green + Thompson? Durant took LeBron about five steps further.

In the East 3 all-stars were a freakin luxury. Who was their best compe ion? A one man show Bulls team, a geriatric Celtics team and a one man show Pacers team. Would KD even have had the guts to make that move if Lebron hadn't done it first with success? Maybe in KD's mind he's thinking if Lebron can collude, have success and have that move forgotten by the sports world after winning les maybe I can do the same. Forget loyalty and all that bull . Dump my current team, sign with the best players in my conference and chase rings. #TodaysNBA.

[lebomb]

In the East 3 all-stars were a freakin luxury. Who was their best compe ion? A one man show Bulls team, a geriatric Celtics team and a one man show Pacers team. Would KD even have had the guts to make that move if Lebron hadn't done it first with success? Maybe in KD's mind he's thinking if Lebron can collude, have success and have that move forgotten by the sports world after winning les maybe I can do the same. Forget loyalty and all that bull . Dump my current team, sign with the best players in my conference and chase rings. #TodaysNBA.

Exactly!!!!!

[Horse]

DurAlpha tbh

So what? if they win they're supposed to and Durant is a anyway you slice it. Let there be a 3-5 point game with 2 min left and you'll see the real Durant.

[DMC]

I never said Steve Nash, tbh. Although it could be argued, imho. And yeah, I will always argue Manu > Iverson. My two favourite players, the two players I have seen the most of. I know their strengths and weaknesses and I know for sure who the better player is.

P/S: You keep switching your definition of "franchise player", why are you acting like it has been "adressed"?

Not a Tim Duncan, Lebron James type of franchise player of course but a Steve Nash, Allen Iverson type. The kind of player that can be the face of a franchise for a long period of time, sell tickets and be relatively succesful. Let's say the 1999 draft happens again with the knowledge we all have now of how good each player is going to be. I think it's fair to say that Manu would go as the 1st pick (some may pick Baron Davis).