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So is TSA still saying Flynn is in the clear?the cuck.
This bank [whose CEO Kushner was talking to] is of particular concern, because of course it's the subject of sanctions, but also because Gorkov, the head of this bank, comes out of a school essentially for Russian spies,” Schiff told ABC News on Thursday. “He's someone that allegedly is very close to Putin, and I don't think if this was made at the suggestion as alleged by Ambassador Kislyak, I don't think the choice of Gorkov or this bank was any kind of coincidence.”
So is TSA still saying Flynn is in the clear?
The dude knows when the is down. That's why he stays out of the thread about conflict of interest. He *is* smart enough to know a losing hand when he sees it.So is TSA still saying Flynn is in the clear?
You will notice he sticks to the "where's the evidence" talking point. It's the best line of attack at the moment. Not going to be overly convincing after the investigations turn up actual evidence, but for now it is a working point for the right to deflect attention, and give the cool-aid drinkers something to sip on.
Flynn is not in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions as the thread le implies, the FBI has already cleared him of his phone calls to Kislyak. I've never denied he took money from Turkey.
Of course I'm going to stick to "where's the evidence" because as of today there is ZERO evidence of collusion with Russia. How many more Democratic members of the intel committee need to say the same before you start realizing there is nothing there?
"major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions"
where is the transcript of Flynn's multiple calls to Russia about sanctions? aka "evidence" LOL
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FBI reviewed Flynn’s calls with Russian ambassador but found nothing illicit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4b36065cb2f5
DUN DUN DUN!!!
Is President Steve Bannon The REAL White House Leaker?
Read more at https://wonkette.com/618052/is-presi...pAbRc1qSq7X.99Remember, a few months back, there was much ado about how there are two teams in the White House, one led by President Steve Bannon, and the other led by Son-In-Law Jared Kushner, and that they were fighting over who would wield the MOST influence over the hardened orange hunk of expired Cheez Whiz in the Oval Office? Things were looking WAY BAD for Bannon there for a minute, especially after he called Jared a cuck. Everybody knows that the first rule of the hit reality compe ion show “Donald Trump Is President Of America” is that you do NOT under any cir stances call Jared a “cuck.”
But things seem to have turned around! The FBI is all up in Jared’s grille for all the dirty Russian meetings he’s had with dirty Russians, and Trump is destroying the entire planet by doing Bannon’s bidding and pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement, a move that Jared and Ivanka were on record as being VAGUELY AGAINST.
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HMMMMMM! The New York Times scoop he’s talking about came from the last week of March, when it reported that during the transition, Jared had met with Sergey Gorkov, head of the Russian state-owned VneshEconomBank (VEB), which is under U.S. sanctions stemming from Russia’s invasion of Crimea. Jared failed to disclose that meeting! By the way, that news came out just a week or two before we learned Bannon called Jared a “cuck.” Interesting timing!
Peter Schweizer, president of the Government Accountability Ins ute, (which was founded by Trump adviser Stephen Bannon and funded in part by a Trump mega-donor, Rebekah Mercer), said the meeting “had conflict of interest written all over it.”
“You worry about a quid pro quo, you worry about Kushner getting some financial arrangement from a Russian financial ins ution, and you worry about White House policy being shaped in a way that benefits either those banks or Russia at large,” Schweizer told ABC News. “That’s the concern.”
WHOA HEY GEE- IN’-WILLIKERS! Steve Bannon’s pals — the same guys who wrote “Clinton Cash” and got the New York in’ Times to run it from their tax-exempt “charity,” the “Government Accountability Ins ute,” which paid Bannon $400,000 while also funneling a million dollars to some Breitbart “journalists” — are just VERY WORRIED that maybe Jared and the Russians were 69-ing each other with pay-to-play quid pro quos, which would be UNETHICAL, according to Steve Bannon’s pals, who are all extremely ethical. They are probably JUST SAYING, of course, and aren’t trying to drive a wedge between Team Bannon and Team Kushner, and they certainly weren’t told what to say about Jared’s possible ethical entanglements/Russian crimes by any little birdies named PRESIDENT STEVE BANNON.
Unless they were, of course.
Wow, the plot thickens.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence in this case.Both Flynn, a former head of the Pentagon’s intelligence agency, and Kislyak, a seasoned diplomat, are probably aware that Kislyak’s phone calls and texts are being monitored, current and former officials said. That would make it highly unlikely, the individuals said, that the men would allow their calls to be conduits of illegal coordination.
"pock-marked slab of gelatinous swamp "
Is Bannon cucking Jared by ing Ivanka?
Kind of hard to keep track of all this.
Here is a good summary:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ayers-dossiers
Remember, there is absolutely no evidence of collusion with Russia.
All the President's Men
Michael Flynn
The former Defense Intelligence Agency chief memorably led Republican National Convention attendees in chants of "lock her up." Now Flynn—ousted less than a month into his job as Trump's national security adviser—is facing legal jeopardy of his own. According to members of the House Oversight Committee, the retired lieutenant general may have broken the law by failing to disclose payments from Russian and Turkish interests, including for a Moscow speech he gave at an event celebrating RT, the Kremlin-*backed broadcaster, where he was seated next to Putin. Barack Obama personally warned Trump about hiring Flynn, whom Obama had fired from his DIA post. In January, acting Attorney General Sally Yates urgently told the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his contacts with Ambassador Kislyak and could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail. When that news emerged in the Post three weeks later, Trump fired Flynn and blamed the media, calling Flynn a "wonderful man" who had been treated "very unfairly." Flynn has offered to testify if offered immunity. In May, the Senate Intelligence Committee subpoenaed records from him and his business associates.
Paul Manafort
A lobbyist out of central casting, Manafort has repped some of the world's shadiest autocrats and dictators, once flying to Angola in the '80s amid the country's bloody civil war to pitch warlord Jonas Savimbi. (In hacked text messages made public in February, Manafort's daughter Andrea allegedly said her father had "no moral or legal compass" and described her family's wealth as "blood money.") Brought on to the Trump campaign at the urging of his former business partner Roger Stone, Manafort helped to guide it through the Republican convention. Manafort was ousted in August, as details emerged about his work for deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, a Putin ally, which allegedly involved $12.7 million in secret cash payments earmarked for Manafort. Scrutiny of Manafort, who is reportedly under investigation by the FBI and the Treasury Department, has expanded to include his business dealings with Oleg Deripaska, the Russian aluminum magnate and Putin ally who was denied a visa to the United States because of alleged ties to organized crime.
Roger Stone
The 64-year-old, who proudly sports a tattoo of Richard Nixon across his back, has made a career of political subterfuge. He cut his teeth at 19 as a Nixon dirty trickster, once hiring a GOP operative to infiltrate George McGovern's campaign. He later co-founded the lobbying firm of Black, Manafort, Stone & A er in the early 1980s. He has advised Trump for decades, lobbying on behalf of Trump's casino interests and serving as campaign manager of the real estate mogul's short-lived presidential campaign in 2000.
During the 2016 campaign, Stone seemed to possess uncanny knowledge of what WikiLeaks had in store for Hillary Clinton. On October 1, he tweeted, "Wednesday @HillaryClinton is done. #Wikileaks." Less than a week later, WikiLeaks began publishing the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta. Stone claimed he was in touch with WikiLeaks' founder, Julian Assange, and that he exchanged direct messages with Guccifer 2.0—the handle for the alleged Russian hacker(s) who posted the stolen DNC emails. Reportedly under investigation by the FBI, Stone has strenuously denied any collusion with Russians and has volunteered to testify before Congress. But anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt—his mantra, after all, is: "Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counterattack."
Michael Cohen
In the dossier produced by the ex-British spy Steele, Trump's pugnacious personal lawyer surfaced as an alleged liaison to Russian officials—a charge he strongly denies. He has long-standing business and family ties to Ukraine. In January, he hand-delivered a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia to then-national security adviser Flynn, according to the New York Times. The effort also involved Trump's business associate Sater and Andrii V. Artemenko, a Ukrainian lawmaker.
What's funny is that the ONLY change that Trump asked for in the Republican party platform benefitted Russia.
http://www.npr.org/2016/08/06/488876...aid-to-ukraine
... but Trash still has 40% approval rating.
Paraphrasing the 1960s "my country, right or wrong", they must think "My Pres, right or wrong", absolving themselves of all accountability for being conned, duped and electing a lying, criminal, pussy-grabbing fraudster.
Keeping Ukrainian military capabilities to a minimum keeps Russian soldiers from coming home in (too many) body bags:
http://www.newsweek.com/nolan-peters...nt-line-555141
Oleksandr Turchynov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, speaks with journalists after meeting with the head of the local civilian administration on February 1, 2017 in Avdiivka, Ukraine. Nolan Peterson quotes a Ukrainian military official saying, "We can tell if it’s separatists, or Russian soldiers. They fight in different ways. The separatists are unorganized, they move like bugs in different directions. But Russian units move in a coordinated, disciplined way. And Russian artillery is much more accurate.”
Jared and Ivanka say they will re-evaluate their govt participation every 6 months, to see if they continue to donate their talents to the country.
Jared thinks he can walk away, go back to being a slum landlord, and forget all his illegalities. Mueller, etc, won't.
Wonkette, Motherjones....do you also have a Daily Kos article for us today RandomGuy?
Did I miss hearing about the indictments issued today?
That would still surprise the out of me, considering the leaks have gone out of their way to try to make Pence look above the fray, and Bannon would want no part of hurting Trump to help Pence. It's Trump or bust for getting his nationalist crap implemented. I think Priebus being the main leaker makes way more sense, as the GOP has to be massively frustrated at not getting their agenda fastracked when they're controlling the house, senate, white house, and supreme court. Plus it would make sense that someone making Pence look squeaky clean would be doing it for the benefit of the party. Maybe the Cuckner stuff is coming from Bannon, but I'd doubt any of the other .DUN DUN DUN!!!
Is President Steve Bannon The REAL White House Leaker?
Read more at https://wonkette.com/618052/is-presi...pAbRc1qSq7X.99
Wow, the plot thickens.
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