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    Taking Pau back takes them into the tax. They're going to be a repeater team in the future.

    Better to start that period of penalties a year later

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    Getting Pau to fill that salary for one year, is better than not having anything at all.
    Why? They're already deep in luxury tax territory with $133 mil guaranteed, thus their desire to dump contracts by attaching nice picks to them. They don't want any salary back.

    Also, the trade would happen a week before Pau makes a decision on opting in. Theres a chance Pau opts out if he doesnt want to go to POR and POR clears the space this summer. If he stays opted in, POR still will maintain the flexibility for summer of 18 ti re sign Nurkic -- which was the number one objective to do the trade anyway.
    Spurs can't trade Pau until he opts in.

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    The New York Knicks' front office has spoken to the Trail Blazers in recent days about a trade for one of Portland's three first-round picks, sources confirmed to ESPN on Thursday.
    Talks between New York and Portland are believed to be in the early stages, but at least one scenario discussed involved an additional player from Portland being sent in a trade, according to sources. Portland's Moe Harkless is one player who was discussed in a possible trade scenario, sources told ESPN.
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...rst-round-pick

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    Good for the Knicks if true. Its a great deal for them.

    Prob Harkless and Festus.

    Olshey really messed up giving Evans that deal and matching Crabbes.

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    Good for the Knicks if true. Its a great deal for them.

    Prob Harkless and Festus.

    Olshey really messed up giving Evans that deal and matching Crabbes.
    I thought Festus had a non guarantee on the second year . They could just cut him.

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    I thought Festus had a non guarantee on the second year . They could just cut him.
    He does. My mistake. Prob Ed Davis or Leonard.

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    On the table to trade into late 1st, early 2nd.

    Kyle Anderson
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    2018 1st rounder ( for late 1st)

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    Chances to add which legit star? The Spurs would have to gut the team for the chance of offering anyone the max this off-season (CP3 pipe dream?) and it has already been mentioned that the 2018 FA class isn't that special (anyone other than Cousins?). This would also assume the Spurs don't sign either Mills or Simmons and/or don't add on any multi-year deals.

    Also lets not act like FA has been favorable for the Spurs, this team became great through smart drafting and development and that is the correct route for the future as well. Another major factor is that Pop is only getting older which is something FAs will factor in when deciding whether to sign here or not.
    It's not just about landing FA or stars, but getting to choose which players fit your style. You can also absorb salaries or trade for guys without sending things back which nets you picks or stars that force their way out (Butler, PG, types).

    The flexibility, not just looking at who is a FA next year, is the key. For many reasons.

    FA has been great for SA. They never had to or really tried that hard to pursue stars other than some one off times. They kept Duncan, Parker, Gino landed plenty of good vets, landed LMA. FA has been very good to SA.

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    He does. My mistake. Prob Ed Davis or Leonard.
    I haven't seen much of Leonard post-injury. But before his injury, I coveted the guy. I liked his shot and his range. I also thought that he had good quickness and boarded well. I wanted the Spurs to get him into their system; I thought he would thrive here.

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    It's not just about landing FA or stars, but getting to choose which players fit your style. You can also absorb salaries or trade for guys without sending things back which nets you picks or stars that force their way out (Butler, PG, types).

    The flexibility, not just looking at who is a FA next year, is the key. For many reasons.

    FA has been great for SA. They never had to or really tried that hard to pursue stars other than some one off times. They kept Duncan, Parker, Gino landed plenty of good vets, landed LMA. FA has been very good to SA.
    Not sure I am following you. FA was good to the Spurs when they had the big 3. But the new Spurs reality is the big 1.5. Before LMA the Spurs only needed and acquired role-players through FA. The Spurs have greater needs now, and the issue is whether the Spurs should try to fill leading role(s) with expensive, aging FAs or do something different and ride younger, less proven players who the Spurs have molded or can mold into, not only "star-level" players - a new big 2 or 3 - but also conduits of the Spurs' culture.

    Probably 75-80% of Spurs' culture retired after last season, wearing #21.

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    Spurs SHOULD have kept Ian, how Pop handled him was a disaster and a waste of a cheap asset.
    Quite honestly, the Spurs should have fired their medical staff after they misdiagnosed his ankle injury at the exact time that he would have gotten valuable playing time. That would have at least given the Spurs a real look at what he could do.

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    On the table to trade into late 1st, early 2nd.

    Kyle Anderson
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    2018 1st rounder ( for late 1st)
    Not a fan of trading any of the above.

    I'd much rather keep all three and try to buy a early second like GSW did, from Philly (36th, 39th) or Orlando (33rd, 35th)

    Anderson can play right now (actually, I think he should be a starter next season with Aldridge at center and Bertans backing him up but that's beside the point.

    the 2018 pick maybe a better pick than this years pick, depending on how it shakes out

    GSW- bringing the same team.
    Cleveland- especially if they lose in the Finals again,
    Boston-potentially if they make a big spash in the off season
    Houston-has money to spend to improve their team

    Spurs may wind up having the 26th pick in 2018

    And based on everything that I have heard and seen on Milutinov, he should be a rotation caliber big man. He's a good rebounder, mobile, long, and may have potential to be a solid NBA defender.

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    If only we kept talley on everything weve debated about. But no, im not going to point to one debate he was wrong about 7 to 10 yrs ago..

    Ive called out more things than he has the past 10 yrs, and the ones who have been here can attest to that.
    I could see why you took the Mahinmi comment personally, but I didn't say it to toot my own horn. I meant it lightheartedly and thought you'd respond with something similar and we'd have a laugh about it.

    Didn't want to get into a pissing contest, but since you brought it up, I've called a lot of major roster decisions this decade. Off the top of my head . . .

    '10 - Said they'd trade Hill; not Parker
    '10 - Said they'd sign Green
    '12 - Said Diaw would be bought out and sign
    '13 - Said they'd re-sign Splitter and for what he got
    '14 - Said they'd re-sign both Diaw and Mills
    '14 - Said they wouldn't sign Gasol and that he'd sign with Bulls
    '15 - Said Duncan and Ginobili would take whatever was leftover to make Aldridge signing work and retain Green
    '15 - Said they'd re-sign Green and that he'd take less
    '15 - Said they'd sign Aldridge and not have to gut team to do so
    '16 - Said they'd sign Gasol

    Almost all of these were unpopular opinions at the time.

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    I could see why you took the Mahinmi comment personally, but I didn't say it to toot my own horn. I meant it lightheartedly and thought you'd respond with something similar and we'd have a laugh about it.

    Didn't want to get into a pissing contest, but since you brought it up, I've called a lot of major roster decisions this decade. Off the top of my head . . .

    '10 - Said they'd trade Hill; not Parker
    '10 - Said they'd sign Green
    '12 - Said Diaw would be bought out and sign
    '13 - Said they'd re-sign Splitter and for what he got
    '14 - Said they'd re-sign both Diaw and Mills
    '14 - Said they wouldn't sign Gasol and that he'd sign with Bulls
    '15 - Said Duncan and Ginobili would take whatever was leftover to make Aldridge signing work and retain Green
    '15 - Said they'd re-sign Green and that he'd take less
    '15 - Said they'd sign Aldridge and not have to gut team to do so
    '16 - Said they'd sign Gasol

    Almost all of these were unpopular opinions at the time.

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    Yes please

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    Not a fan of trading any of the above.

    I'd much rather keep all three and try to buy a early second like GSW did, from Philly (36th, 39th) or Orlando (33rd, 35th)

    Anderson can play right now (actually, I think he should be a starter next season with Aldridge at center and Bertans backing him up but that's beside the point.

    the 2018 pick maybe a better pick than this years pick, depending on how it shakes out

    GSW- bringing the same team.
    Cleveland- especially if they lose in the Finals again,
    Boston-potentially if they make a big spash in the off season
    Houston-has money to spend to improve their team

    Spurs may wind up having the 26th pick in 2018

    And based on everything that I have heard and seen on Milutinov, he should be a rotation caliber big man. He's a good rebounder, mobile, long, and may have potential to be a solid NBA defender.
    Not a fan of Milutinov. Think hes a poor mans Splitter. Id be willing to trade him.

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    If Gasol wants to play with the Spurs, he will have to opt out. Opting in puts us in a position where he might have to dump him. With CP , rumours surely this is on his mind?

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    I haven't seen much of Leonard post-injury. But before his injury, I coveted the guy. I liked his shot and his range. I also thought that he had good quickness and boarded well. I wanted the Spurs to get him into their system; I thought he would thrive here.
    I haven't watched much of him, but he hasn't been very good at all.

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    If Gasol wants to play with the Spurs, he will have to opt out. Opting in puts us in a position where he might have to dump him. With CP , rumours surely this is on his mind?
    If you are PATFO would you be willing to give Pau a new 3-year contract if he enabled the CP3 signing by opting out? How much for - $10MM/yr? How low do you think Pau could be re-signed for?

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    If you are PATFO would you be willing to give Pau a new 3-year contract if he enabled the CP3 signing by opting out? How much for - $10MM/yr? How low do you think Pau could be re-signed for?

    Spurs would defiantly address this, but I am pretty sure Pau can opt in before free agency starts. So unsure how it will go down. Keep in mind that every player at the end of the season has an exit interview.

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    If you are PATFO would you be willing to give Pau a new 3-year contract if he enabled the CP3 signing by opting out? How much for - $10MM/yr? How low do you think Pau could be re-signed for?
    Probably wouldn't work. If he opted out, and Paul wanted 30 ( 5 more than he was going to make, 5 less than he could make) ....

    They would have to renounce Pau to make space, and only have the room exception to sign Pau.

    Even at 25, to get Pau back at 10 you're dumping Anderson, the 2017 first, Simmons, Milutinov, maybe if they dumped Parker rather than stretch ... Maybe ...

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    If you are PATFO would you be willing to give Pau a new 3-year contract if he enabled the CP3 signing by opting out? How much for - $10MM/yr? How low do you think Pau could be re-signed for?
    Actually, now that I check the actual math, I guess it could work.

    LMA, Kawhi, Green, Murray, Bertans, Anderson, Simmons qualifying offer, Forbes, plus say 28 for Paul .... I guess they could get to about 9 for Pau and then add on years

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    Probably wouldn't work. If he opted out, and Paul wanted 30 ( 5 more than he was going to make, 5 less than he could make) ....

    They would have to renounce Pau to make space, and only have the room exception to sign Pau.

    Even at 25, to get Pau back at 10 you're dumping Anderson, the 2017 first, Simmons, Milutinov, maybe if they dumped Parker rather than stretch ... Maybe ...
    I am not on the CP3 band wagon, anyway. I just like discussing the possibility as long so many ST posters believe it is a possibility.

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    Yeah I am not crazy about CP3 either but the team does need better perimeter players than it projects to have without making any move to add talent (and Manu and Tony from this past season can't be counted on), so they need to make a move in FA for somebody. It's going to be interesting from that point of view.

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    I am not on the CP3 band wagon, anyway. I just like discussing the possibility as long so many ST posters believe it is a possibility.
    Hey, I jumped the gun, I was quick to post on a hunch and not math.

    Every at 30 million, I think they could get Pau on a 3/25 while keeping Anderson and the Simmons QO

    It would depend on trading Parker instead of stretching him

    I could be wrong in the math though, I admit. Pretty tired right now.

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