Choke-P will derail Kawhi's game and make him the scapegoat, just like he did to Blake. He puts the whole team on his back by choice because he's an egomaniac and a control freak, much like Peyton Manning always did. But then he disappears in the big moments and lets his teammates take all the blame. Blake and especially DJ aren't perfect, but neither is CP0. He holds plenty of responsibility for the Clippers' failure, and he's asking for the most money while being the oldest of the Big Three.
Just wait until he starts making ultimatums that make the Spurs worse. You know, like when he ordered the Clippers to bring in Doc. Or when he made us trade Bledsoe away for scraps because he was salty about getting outplayed by him in the playoffs. Maybe once he's trying to boss PATFO around instead of historically poor franchises like the Hornets and Clippers, Media will finally wake up to how toxic Choke Paul truly is.
Posters not learning that gutting scrubs to get a superstar is worth it 10/10 times, just look at the finals
Losing depth is overrated. Turning into a superteam will get you a fair amount of ring chasers and players looking to get paid after 1 year in your system. The "depth" we have now is easily replaceable.
This Warriors team is arguably the greatest team ever assembled. You won't beat them with your cute little role players, d-leaguers, and washed vets.
Kawhi needs a Kyrie to his Lebron.
Those are his highlights -- him at his best. Of course, when he makes every shot, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with him hogging the ball. But despite being a great three-point shooter, the dude doesn't play off the ball at all. Blake is one of the best play-making bigs in the league (averaged five dimes a game), and Paul is not one of the guys who gets those dimes. Dude was only assisted on 23 percent of his shots last year. That's just abysmal.
Do you know how often Avery Johnson got in DRob's face and ripped him over and over? Called him some pretty unmentionable things. That was straight from Antonio Daniels. We all remember the brawl with Malik too. Type-A personalities can get a little combative. Having some fight wouldn't be a bad thing - especially if it means getting in Lamarcus' face.
I really like Simmons' potential and athletic ability but someone is most likely going to OVERPAY him. He's not proven that he can be consistent yet and he needs a lot of work on the offensive end. He's worth about 3 to 4 million per season at this point - for the Spurs anyways.
I think you only see Blake dunks if you think he doesn't have a perimeter-oriented game. Dude's a dribble-driver. And yes, he posts up just like Kawhi and Melo do. But he's a face-up guy at heart. And Blake shot 34 percent last year, so it's not like he doesn't shoot threes.Most guard like big in the league???
You compared Kawhi/Melo to Blake...
That's a terrible comparison and their games are nothing a like...I respect your opinion but I think you're way off. Both Kawhi/Melo can handle the ball in PNR and can shoot 40% from 3.
Blake is a good passer but that's doesn't mean his game is wing oriented at all...
If anything, that's where most of his criticism lies. Instead of developing post moves like a big, he developed guard moves. With Paul on the floor, he just looks like a more athletic David Lee. But the dude is a completely different player without him.
Bowen was dirty, Parker ed wives, Green goes clubbing every day even with the enemy, SJax was a hot head, Aldridge has a huge ego, Ferry is a racist, Manure is illegal
"CP3 is contrary to what the Spurs do"
I mean, if we're trying to act like the team needs an Avery, I think we may as well just pack up our TVs and move along. It sounds all well and good for Paul to be a life coach for LMA, but what's going to happen when Paul starts getting in Kawhi's face ing about got being able to hold the ball for 20 seconds of every shot clock? All that bull controversy that people try to start with Parker and Leonard may be real with Paul around.
Even with his dribble-dribble ways, don't you think the team would be better with him than without? Every player has their flaws...
Anyway, I understand why some are against going for him and I share the same concerns. Looking at the big picture though, the guy is a superstar. You can't just say no to that.
Bowen was dirty, Parker ed wives, Green goes clubbing every day even with the enemy, SJax was a hot head, Aldridge has a huge ego, Ferry is a racist, Manure is illegal
"CP3 is contrary to what the Spurs do"..
Couldn't name a single on-court thing? And yeah, Jack wasn't a Spurs culturally and got booted on his ass for it.Bowen was dirty, Parker ed wives, Green goes clubbing every day even with the enemy, SJax was a hot head, Aldridge has a huge ego, Ferry is a racist, Manure is illegal
"CP3 is contrary to what the Spurs do"
you actually believe he would come here and want to be the man? if you have a half a brain, like pop likes to say, and he seems to have one, being a successful business man and apart of the union like he his, you'd think he'd figure that won't be the case. Pop already had this talk with LMA when he came. You don't think Pop would have mentioned anything like this to him in a potential meeting.
and lastly, what on earth would anyone have to say to KL. What does he do wrong? He plays both sides and is quiet. That argument, I'm not buying for a second.
If the choice is Paul or no PG, then that's one thing. But there are other options. If Pop is not going to move Parker to make most of the necessary salary to get Paul, I don't think it's worth it.
One of two things is true: Either the Spurs had a horrible core and Kawhi managed to do pretty easily what Paul has never been able to do with his own core, or the Spurs' core doesn't such an managed to do what Paul has never been able to do. Either one should give the team pause when it comes to giving up a lot to get Paul. Kawhi will not be the first All-NBA player Paul's played with. So to think you can just fill in the cracks around him is fallacy.
It's going to take the right guys to make it work.
The only thing salty is you...
CP3 made the Clippers relevant again..not Doc, Jordan or Griffin CP3 did..
No.
Pop didn't fix Aldridge and his post ups, iso's and lack of passing. He is what he is at this point and so is CP3.
Spurs hope to mold a guy the way they want is Murray who is 20 years old and just learning this game and good habits with Pop. If he's not good enough then he's not good enough, but CP3 won't change for Pop... it will be more likely that Pop has to adapt schemes and things to suit him.. (the way he had to adjust and change the SL offense so that Lamarcus could play his game).
His off ball skills is his shooting ability something that neither Parker, Wall or Westbrook can do
Yes, and I think Pop will want him to be. He's not going to tell Paul to play completely differently than he's always played. Now does that mean that Paul would be the leading scorer? No. But he would almost certainly have a higher usage than Kawhi.
You say that, but it's just like with LMA not playing as the big, strong guy he is. The Spurs needs him to be more assertive and less with of the jump-shooter he's been for years. The offense would be much better if he rolled and forced the issue inside and ducked in. But nope. Same . Wouldn't be any different with Paul. Pop's coming to him trying to add his game to the team. No reason to change.if you have a half a brain, like pop likes to say, and he seems to have one, being a successful business man and apart of the union like he his, you'd think he'd figure that won't be the case
This has nothing to do with Kawhi doing something wrong. This has everything to do with Paul wanting the ball and Kawhi needing the ball. If Leonard's shot is back, he'd probably be more efficient with Paul feeding him. But he's not going to do what he did in the playoffs. The Spurs need either a more balanced PG or a PG who moves the ball much faster than Paul does.and lastly, what on earth would anyone have to say to KL. What does he do wrong? He plays both sides and is quiet. That argument, I'm not buying for a second.
And yet he doesn't use them. Never plays off Blake at all. One of the best mid-range shooters in the league, but he's only assisted on an eighth of his twos. One of the best three-point shooters in the league, but nope, takes 3/5 of his threes without an assist. I was ing about Jimmer shooting off-dribble threes, and even he has never dropped below 50 percent.
Oh but you're gonna ignore the players I listed? Just admit you don't want Paul cause of his age and $$.. not his style of play
Yes, I say it's worth it. Especially if the Spurs can swing it by losing Green and Gasol. The other FA's are liable to leave anyway and I'm not sure I'd want to keep them at their rumored price tags at the end of the day. Paul-Leonard-Aldridge is a nice combo for a couple years - hopefully with the emergence of Murray as well, that can legitimately compete. Spurs can fill out the roster with former players, veteran ring chasers, and by way of the draft. CP3 and Kawhi will learn to play together, they both want to win.
If the Spurs run it back with minor changes, might as well throw in the towel for next year. Maybe they can build something better in 2018 but maybe not.
He doesn't want Paul because it probably means losing Danny Green.
There was some effect though. He plays better defense now overall and he drives more to the basket or goes for more hook shots then he did in Portland where it was just mostly fade aways. Teams just double him now so he doesn't get those more quality looks and that's that. It is what it is with the passing and character wise he doesn't seem like a Spur and has his moments where he says things that are not Spurs-like. But there was definitely an effect the Spurs have had on him. Now the Spurs can't fix what a player never had, and i mean old vets like Paul, Aldridge, and Pau, but there are adjustments that can be made. I seriously doubt that Paul if wanting to come here wouldn't make the adjustment and do the "dribble dribble" less. Same thing with Parker. He still did it time to time but Pop got on him and and it happened less and less. It wouldn't disappear completely but an adjustment could definitely be made.
If y'all think Pop won't chew Paul out at this stage of his coaching career y'all are mistaken. Why would he care. Also I'm sure Paul will understand what to expect if he did came. Y'all act, and not you SAGirl specifically, like Paul is not all there mentally and can't grasp the Spurs system and that he's gonna control everything if he comes. He's leaving where he's at. Understand a little basic psychology. Even Lebron deferred to Wade when he first came to Miami, cause he knew it was Wade's team and Wade had already won a ship. The lost the le that year and Wade told Lebron it was his team. That's not happening here but the point is he's leaving his team as number one. He's coming here to fit into what we do because he believes we are closing to winning. In essence we are yoking him. The audacity one would have to come in and think your gonna run things like some of you suggest. He's not a little kid.
I just find it extremely hard to believe that he's not gonna buy in especially if he decides to leave all that money, all those relationships. If he leaves he's pretty much all in, don't you think. Anyways I'm not buying that argument whatsoever.
No, it's for his style of play. I ignored the players you listed, because we aren't talking about them. He has a better "outside game" than Parker, but Tony uses what he has more than Paul does. Westbrook is a chucker. Wall is almost as bad, but he's also much less differentiated, and he takes fewer (but still too many) unassisted threes.
I personally prefer Blake to CP3 if we are honest and dislike Lamarcus offensive game a whole lot. I would switch those up and be happier.
If only Blake wasn't as injury prone and have rage issues.... but he's my favorite player in the Clippers... he's quite unique.
Yes, you need all-stars to compete with all stars. Surround him with 3 pt shooting and an athletic big. Kawhi works more down low instead of outside (where he was this year since he had to handle the ball so much),do it
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