Wills: Trump disabled & the 25th amendment

[RandomGuy]

At what point in the senility curve do we seriously consider invoking the 25th amendment?

Political commentator George Will in his latest column blasts President Trump as someone who is not able to "think and speak clearly."

"It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trump’s inability to do either," Will wrote in The Washington Post.

"This seems to be not a mere disinclination but a disability. It is not merely the result of intellectual sloth but of an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence."

In the column, Will pointed to the president's comments about Frederick Douglass and his recent remarks about Andrew Jackson.

Trump in an interview published earlier this week questioned why the country had a Civil War and suggested Jackson could have prevented it had he served later. Jackson, the nation's seventh president, died in 1845. The Civil War began in 1861.

"Library shelves groan beneath the weight of books asking questions about that war’s origins, so who, one wonders, are these 'people' who don’t ask the questions that Trump evidently thinks have occurred to him uniquely?" Will asked.

"What is most alarming (and mortifying to the University of Pennsylvania, from which he graduated) is not that Trump has entered his eighth decade unscathed by even elementary knowledge about the nation’s history," he continued.

"As this column has said before, the problem isn’t that he does not know this or that, or that he does not know that he does not know this or that. Rather, the dangerous thing is that he does not know what it is to know something."

Will went on to criticize Trump for some of the comments he made before assuming the presidency, pointing to his remarks on the nuclear triad and the "one China policy."

Will warned that Americans have put "vast military power at the discretion of this mind."

"So, it is up to the public to quarantine this presidency," he wrote, "by insistently communicating to its elected representatives a steady, rational fear of this man whose combination of impulsivity and credulity render him uniquely unfit to take the nation into a military conflict."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-speak-clearly

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[3]

I don't see the Republican party that puts its best interest ahead of the country having the stones to make the hard call, but given Trump's age and health, we should be at least preparing for this risk.

Symptoms of dementia
If you or your loved one is experiencing memory problems, don’t immediately conclude that it’s dementia. A person needs to have at least two types of impairment that significantly interfere with everyday life to receive a dementia diagnosis.

In addition to difficulty remembering, the person may also experience impairments in:

language
communication
focus
reasoning
1. Subtle short-term memory changes
Trouble with memory can be an early symptom of dementia. The changes are often subtle and tend to involve short-term memory. An older person may be able to remember events that took place years ago but not what they had for breakfast.

Other symptoms of changes in short-term memory include forgetting where they left an item, struggling to remember why they entered a particular room, or forgetting what they were supposed to do on any given day.


2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.

3. Changes in mood
A change in mood is also common with dementia. If you have dementia, it isn’t always easy to recognize this in yourself, but you may notice this change in someone else. Depression, for instance, is typical of early dementia.

Along with mood changes, you might also see a shift in personality. One typical type of personality change seen with dementia is a shift from being shy to outgoing. This is because the condition often affects judgment.

4. Apathy
Apathy, or listlessness, commonly occurs in early dementia. A person with symptoms could lose interest in hobbies or activities. They may not want to go out anymore or do anything fun. They may lose interest in spending time with friends and family, and they may seem emotionally flat.

5. Difficulty completing normal tasks
A subtle shift in the ability to complete normal tasks may indicate that someone has early dementia. This usually starts with difficulty doing more complex tasks like balancing a checkbook or playing games that have a lot of rules.

Along with the struggle to complete familiar tasks, they may struggle to learn how to do new things or follow new routines.

6. Confusion
Someone in the early stages of dementia may often become confused. When memory, thinking, or judgment lapses, confusion may arise as they can no longer remember faces, find the right words, or interact with people normally.

Confusion can occur for a number of reasons and apply to different situations. For example, they may misplace their car keys, forget what comes next in the day, or have difficulty remembering someone they’ve met before.

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.

8. A failing sense of direction
The sense of direction and spatial orientation commonly starts to deteriorate with the onset of dementia. This can mean not recognizing once-familiar landmarks and forgetting regularly used directions. It also becomes more difficult to follow a series of directions and step-by-step instructions.

9. Being repe ive
Repe ion is common in dementia because of memory loss and general behavioral changes. The person may repeat daily tasks, such as shaving, or they may collect items obsessively.

They also may repeat the same questions in a conversation after they’ve been answered.

10. Struggling to adapt to change
For someone in the early stages of dementia, the experience can cause fear. Suddenly, they can’t remember people they know or follow what others are saying. They can’t remember why they went to the store, and they get lost on the way home.

Because of this, they might crave routine and be afraid to try new experiences. Difficulty adapting to change is also a typical symptom of early dementia.

[RandomGuy]

I get more deductions, I mean I can tell you this, I get more deductions, they have deductions for birds flying across America, they have deductions for everything. There are more deductions … now you’re going to get an interest deduction, and a charitable deduction. But we’re not going to have all this nonsense that they have right now that complicates things and makes it … you know when we put out that one page, I said, we should really put out a, you know, a big thing, and then I looked at the one page, honestly it’s pretty well covered. Hard to believe.

https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/156229...mist-interview

[RandomGuy]

(Economist)Mr President, can I just try you on a deal-making question? If you do need Democratic support for your tax plan, your ideal tax plan, and the price of that the Democrats say is for you to release your tax returns, would you do that?

(Trump) I don’t know. That’s a very interesting question. I doubt it. I doubt it. Because they’re not going to … nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters. Oh, at some point I’ll release them. Maybe I’ll release them after I’m finished because I’m very proud of them actually. I did a good job.

Hope Hicks [White House director of strategic communication]: Once the audit is over.

President Trump: I might release them after I’m out of office.

Can't keep his lies straight.

[spurraider21]

he's an idiot, but not mentally disabled to the point that the 25th amendment even remotely applies

this is just bull that hurts the credibility of your cause more than anything else

[RandomGuy]

(Economist)But beyond that it’s OK if the tax plan increases the deficit?

(Trump)It is OK, because it won’t increase it for long. You may have two years where you’ll … you understand the expression “prime the pump”?

Yes.

We have to prime the pump.

It’s very Keynesian.

We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world. Have you heard that expression before, for this particular type of an event?

Priming the pump?

Yeah, have you heard it?

Yes.


(Trump)Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just … I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It’s what you have to do.

[RandomGuy]

[RandomGuy]

he's an idiot, but not mentally disabled to the point that the 25th amendment even remotely applies

this is just bull that hurts the credibility of your cause more than anything else

How would you recognize a level of impairment that would rise to the level that you would be concerned?

[RandomGuy]

Symptoms of dementia
If you or your loved one is experiencing memory problems, don’t immediately conclude that it’s dementia. A person needs to have at least two types of impairment that significantly interfere with everyday life to receive a dementia diagnosis.

In addition to difficulty remembering, the person may also experience impairments in:

language
communication
focus
reasoning
1. Subtle short-term memory changes
Trouble with memory can be an early symptom of dementia. The changes are often subtle and tend to involve short-term memory. An older person may be able to remember events that took place years ago but not what they had for breakfast.

Other symptoms of changes in short-term memory include forgetting where they left an item, struggling to remember why they entered a particular room, or forgetting what they were supposed to do on any given day.


2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.

3. Changes in mood
A change in mood is also common with dementia. If you have dementia, it isn’t always easy to recognize this in yourself, but you may notice this change in someone else. Depression, for instance, is typical of early dementia.

Along with mood changes, you might also see a shift in personality. One typical type of personality change seen with dementia is a shift from being shy to outgoing. This is because the condition often affects judgment.

4. Apathy
Apathy, or listlessness, commonly occurs in early dementia. A person with symptoms could lose interest in hobbies or activities. They may not want to go out anymore or do anything fun. They may lose interest in spending time with friends and family, and they may seem emotionally flat.

5. Difficulty completing normal tasks
A subtle shift in the ability to complete normal tasks may indicate that someone has early dementia. This usually starts with difficulty doing more complex tasks like balancing a checkbook or playing games that have a lot of rules.

Along with the struggle to complete familiar tasks, they may struggle to learn how to do new things or follow new routines.

6. Confusion
Someone in the early stages of dementia may often become confused. When memory, thinking, or judgment lapses, confusion may arise as they can no longer remember faces, find the right words, or interact with people normally.

Confusion can occur for a number of reasons and apply to different situations. For example, they may misplace their car keys, forget what comes next in the day, or have difficulty remembering someone they’ve met before.

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.

8. A failing sense of direction
The sense of direction and spatial orientation commonly starts to deteriorate with the onset of dementia. This can mean not recognizing once-familiar landmarks and forgetting regularly used directions. It also becomes more difficult to follow a series of directions and step-by-step instructions.

9. Being repe ive
Repe ion is common in dementia because of memory loss and general behavioral changes. The person may repeat daily tasks, such as shaving, or they may collect items obsessively.

They also may repeat the same questions in a conversation after they’ve been answered.

10. Struggling to adapt to change
For someone in the early stages of dementia, the experience can cause fear. Suddenly, they can’t remember people they know or follow what others are saying. They can’t remember why they went to the store, and they get lost on the way home.

Because of this, they might crave routine and be afraid to try new experiences. Difficulty adapting to change is also a typical symptom of early dementia.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs will NOT impeach their boy Trash.

Dems write up the articles, Repug House votes them down. GAMEOVER

Mueller, NY AG, etc will have to find hard evidence that Trash committed felony (ies), like money laundering for the Russians, etc.

Then maybe just maybe the Repugs might impeach AND convict. maybe ...

Obama was "lawless"?

Benghazi?

[RandomGuy]

2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.

Putin has built up their military again and again and again. Their military is much stronger. He’s doing nuclear, we’re not doing anything. Our nuclear is old and tired and his nuclear is tippy-top from what I hear. Better be careful, folks, okay? You better be careful.” -President Trump

[RandomGuy]

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.

Conversations with some officials who have briefed Trump and others who are aware of how he absorbs information portray a president with a short attention span.

He likes single-page memos and visual aids like maps, charts, graphs and photos.

National Security Council officials have strategically included Trump's name in "as many paragraphs as we can because he keeps reading if he's mentioned," according to one source, who relayed conversations he had with NSC officials.

[RandomGuy]

Repugs will NOT impeach their boy Trash.

Dems write up the articles, Repug House votes them down. GAMEOVER

Mueller, NY AG, etc will have to find hard evidence that Trash committed felony (ies), like money laundering for the Russians, etc.

Then maybe just maybe the Repugs might impeach AND convict. maybe ...

Obama was "lawless"?

Benghazi?

I'm not talking about impeachment. I am talking about removing someone who is genuinely mentally impaired.

[TSA]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

[baseline bum]

You can't impeach someone for being a head.

[boutons_deux]

I'm not talking about impeachment. I am talking about removing someone who is genuinely mentally impaired.

There are plenty of head/brain professionals who would go along with that.

anyway, this ain't gonna happen:

"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide,"

Shrinks are risking losing their licenses to practice by coming out, breaking the Goldwater rule, with their diagnoses of Trash as having a ed brain.

Some have said his narcissistic pathology is known to be incurable.

[leemajors]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

You just haven't been the same since CuckingFunt quit posting tbh

[DarrinS]

This thread

[SnakeBoy]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

He used to ridicule preppers and now he is arming himself in preparation for Trumpocalypse...it's sad.

[spurraider21]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

nah that was a while ago when he was spamming melania pictures

[Adam Lambert]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

youre thinking of the pizzagate thread

[Adam Lambert]

and the 25th amendment, let this head drag down the GOP with him for 4 years. theyre toast in 2018 and finished completely in 2020

[SnakeBoy]

and the 25th amendment, let this head drag down the GOP with him for 4 years. theyre toast in 2018 and finished completely in 2020

predicting permanent Democratic rule again? Or was that RandomGuy who thought Dems were winning the house, senate, and whitehouse in 2016 and the GOP would collapse as a party.

[Chris]

Now that the Russia bull has been debunked, they are attacking his sanity. Crawl MF'er crawl!

[boutons_deux]

Russia bull has been debunked

godDAMN, you're stupid

[Adam Lambert]

predicting permanent Democratic rule again? Or was that RandomGuy who thought Dems were winning the house, senate, and whitehouse in 2016 and the GOP would collapse as a party.

i dont know what rg predicted and i have no problem admitting i didnt think trump would win but the rest of that wasnt me. safer bet that the gop will fall after the us endures 2-4 years of trump in power. of course, they wont go down without trying to suppress voters even more than last year so who tf knows