Without the 3 of 'em the Suns wouldn't be O & Forever.
Robert Horry
Hakeem
Tim Duncan
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Without the 3 of 'em the Suns wouldn't be O & Forever.
Robert Horry
Hakeem
Tim Duncan
20times better, yet could only win 2 rings when Jordan was out the league
didn't do during pistons 2 ring run, bulls 1st 3peat and 2nd 3peat...
He also said hakeem shot85% fts when he shot 71.2 for his career, 1.6 better than Duncan.
Horry is great, love is candidness but it's no secret he loves hakeem and only played with him during Hakeem's absolute peak.
desperation
Interesting comments from Horry to say the leastI've always thought Hakeem was a better player than Duncan but not by that much. 2x better would be hyperbole, 20x is flat out ridiculous. I'm not sure where he and Kenny are getting the idea the Rockets would beat the Bulls either. The Bulls were used to going through teams with HOF big men. Hakeem would get his points most definitely but would the others get theirs? The main reason the Rockets would have a shot in '94 or '95 (if Jordan didn't retire) would be because Chicago would be severely fatigued and most likely bored by the time they got to a 4 or 5 peat.
Supporting cast for one.Hakeem's best teammates were Kenny Smith and a washed up Clyde Drexler, tbh. Duncan capitalized on a great organization.
Olajuwon had a pretty good cast around him. Otis Thorpe was a workhorse and a damn good PF, not a star but in the Horace Grant mode. Sam Cassell came on the scene and made an immediate impact. Mario Elie was another good player but when I think of him I always see Danny Ainge blasting him in the face with the basketballAnd Drexler wasn't all that washed up in '95. He could still ball with the best of'em.
Nobody said Olajuwon's cast was weak, but it pales in comparison to Duncan's.
I'd take Manu over Drexler and Ginobili wasn't even Duncan's best teammate.
All of Jim's rangs were post MJ. Jim was 0-2 during MJ era. His first one was off a strike shortened season: *
His 2007 one was a farce as well, thanks to Horry's hipcheck.
Jim always had Pop patrolling the sideline.
Dream ted on Admiral in 1994. He would on Jim too, if both were in their primes.
You have no room son.![]()
Hakeem, Kareem and Shaq are a tier above Timothy
2 yr peak, yet everyone thinks he played like that his whole career...cmon man, hakeem was a fkn nobody from his first finals appearance till first championship, how come he didn't advance deep during those years? empty stat guy
People didn't remember Hakeem had a reputation as a diva, and a bit of a black hole earlier in his career. He turned it around after rediscovering Allah, so kudos to him on that.
Rudy T deserves a lot of credit for convincing Hakeem to give up the ball and pass out of double teams. He also benefitted enormously with the shortened three point line and a bunch of quick shooters.
Finally, Drexler played really well in the 95 playoffs, he added that slashing element to their offense. That 95 Rockets team was basically the prototype of the Shaq/Kobe Lakers and (to a less extent) Duncan/Ginobili Spurs.
I agree with everything except this part. Post players didn't like the shortened 3 point line because it shrunk their space and gave them less room to operate and made it easier for the defense to double and recover.
Tammy s was system only player. When that went to the Olympics he was sitting on the side walk between 2 trash cans crying because he took home a Bronze.....and then he came home and promptly QUIT on his COUNTRY....said he never play for the USA again. See when you ratchet like that Mexicans come in steal a million dollars of your cash, your wife without condoms, and make your kids his own. LOL
Dream would have made Tammy his ...we all know it....Tammy s would have been treated worse than the religious military vet.![]()
Lets not forget that MJ (the human god himself) has Hakeem on his starting squad top 5 all-time. That's gotdam impressive. MJ picked the following line-up
MJ - SG
Pippen - SF
Kareem - C
Magic - PG
Hakeem - PF
that could be the greatest team team ever assembled. Nice picks by MJ
Yeah, but the way the Rockets were made helped him. The Rockets shooters were quick (other than Elie), and it also allowed players like Matt Bullard to be a threat.
No mistake, Hakeem was phenomenal, him and McHale were the best low post players the game has ever seen, and Hakeem became a better passer later in his career. But to say that he is leaps and bounds better than Duncan is crazy talk. In a one on one setting, Hakeem > Duncan. To build a team, Duncan > Hakeem.
Because we all know how well MJ evaluates talent.Kwame Brown,
Adam Morrison.
This. Exactly this. Loved Cap, but the Dream was a damn monster. Ask Shaq and Admiral about nightmare, er um, Dream!![]()
His 3,830 swats are tops in NBA history. 2-year peak my ass. That is a true big man stat. Jim light over 800 swats and Dream didn't play 20 years![]()
Dream has had quad doubles and left stains on many many big men. Shall I name them? Stick to clowning TP. When it comes to Dream, you are a dumbass (no offense) tbh![]()
If Dream had Pop for his whole career, he'd have at least 6 rangs if Jim won 5 tbh. He was a bad bad man.
Will those be the years where he missed the playoffs or got kicked off in the first round in our existing universe?
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