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    Gov. Jerry Brown has more international respect than Trump at this point. Maybe we should call him President instead.



    California Governor Jerry Brown with President of China, Xi Jinping, on Tuesday.


    BEIJING
    With President Donald Trump pulling the U.S. out of the Paris climate accord, China and California signed an agreement Tuesday to work together on reducing emissions, as the state's governor warned that "disaster still looms" without urgent action.

    Gov. Jerry Brown told The Associated Press at an international clean energy conference in Beijing that Trump's decision to pull the U.S. out of the Paris agreement will ultimately prove only a temporary setback.

    For now, he said, China, European countries and individual U.S. states will fill the gap left by the federal government's move to abdicate leadership on the issue.

    "Nobody can stay on the sidelines. We can't afford any dropouts in the tremendous human challenge to make the transition to a sustainable future," Brown said. "Disaster still looms and we've got to make the turn."

    Brown later held a closed-door meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, during which the two pledged to expand trade between California and China with an emphasis on so-called green technologies that could help address climate change, Brown said...
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...154537739.html

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    Gov. Jerry Brown has more international respect than Trump at this point. Maybe we should call him President instead.



    California Governor Jerry Brown with President of China, Xi Jinping, on Tuesday.




    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...154537739.html
    The Paris climate accord had much more to do with a transfer of wealth/technology than it did reducing emissions. You and Jerry Brown should actually read it.

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    The Paris climate accord had much more to do with a transfer of wealth/technology than it did reducing emissions. You and Jerry Brown should actually read it.
    you, as always, offer NOTHING but bull

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    NY TIMES - The United States energy secretary, Rick Perry, also attended the energy conference in Beijing on Tuesday, but there were no reports that he had met with President Xi.
    Trump administration becoming internationally irrelevant.

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    Trump administration becoming internationally irrelevant.
    EXACTLY as Pootin wants USA to be.

    The more irrelevant, withdrawn, isolationist USA is, the more important Russia can be.

    addition (of Russia) by subtraction (of USA)

    Trash and entourage for ING d TRAITORS, compromised by Pootin's $$$.
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    you, as always, offer NOTHING but bull
    Have you read it?

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    Have you read it?
    Have you?

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    yes. have you?

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    the paris accord was essentially a promise and non-binding at that. it was also hijacked by special interests who were able to get the agreement to indicate a goal of a 2 degree difference as opposed to 1.5 and also prevented poorer nations from seeking damages for the costs of climate disasters. there is a reason tillerson publicly defended the accord. it was perfect for him. give the impression to the rest of the world that you are trying to work towards a goal and then turn around and reassure your shareholders that "we expect oil, natural gas, and coal to continue to meet about 80 percent of global demand” (between now and 2014). exxon, and tillerson, could make such a statement because they knew the accord was non-binding. but the fact that they could make such a promise, or that trump would go ahead with the keystone and the dakota pipelines tells you that there was no way the U.S. was going to hold its own in regards to curbing the use of fossil fuels at a rate that would make us virtually fossil free by mid-century.

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    It s the US. We reduce emissions by 25% in 3 years. China and India? 3-5X our population Get to increase their emissions. We send millions of dollars to other countries to help them go green, including India and China, who can still increase their admissions.

    That is why he pulled out. Why shouldn't he?

    And Jerry Brown...holy ing . The berts of the world hiding from monsters of "RUSSIA!" and "TRUMP!" would their mattresses-on-mom's-basement-floors if they could be objective and see what a Fascist leader is all about. Dude is the biggest disaster in Cali since...Arnold...who ironically chastises Trump about things he did on a grander scale of failure on a much smaller stage. Oi vey, Fascists.

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    It s the US. We reduce emissions by 25% in 3 years. China and India? 3-5X our population Get to increase their emissions. We send millions of dollars to other countries to help them go green, including India and China, who can still increase their admissions.
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    Brown is such a scholar in regards to what is right for the people. I mean, this is the Governor who passes back-to-back $5 billion tax raises and just passed the most unfinished bill in history that will kill off the remainder of the SMB sector and royally healthcare more than thought possible.

    Dude is willing to sell the farmland's water, illegally as , to the fine elitist folk in LA. I mean, hey, food for everyone. The rich need plush, green lawns and NO watering restrictions.

    Hey, don't we pay a 10% state tax to fund our infrastructure? We do, but we are going to tax you $5.2 billion MORE to actually start repairing them AND we are going to siphon off 30% for Brown's paybacks in pet projects.

    He's a piece of . But he is just doing what the DemoKKKrats and China have done since Billy Clinton let Chinese businessmen have VIP access to the White House and security secrets for a $1 million donation- he's pocketing Gook money for himself.

    Just another Leftist Fascist monster that has seen the largest exodus of people, companies and jobs from California in history and the largest exodus a state has seen in jobs since Detroit died 40 years ago...under Demo control as well. Coincidence. Not at ing all. Just more and more Ls the Left takes and pushes onto the people.

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    i've disliked jerry brown since he held UC students hostage... said if they dont pass prop 30 to raise sales taxes back in 2012, that they would be forced to cut funding to the UC's and thus raising tuitions. it was a piece of move, and UC tuitions went up anyway. not only that but the 2012 prop was billed as temporary, and they extended it in the recent election. i'm not opposed to the concept of the tax hike, i dont like the s bag approach to it, and that falls on brown

    but at least he's not doubling down on trumps idiocy on co2

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    China and India both have extremely aggressive strategies IN PROGRESS (not planned) to move to renewables, wind and solar.

    It's the same bull of America and Europe telling South America to protect its forests, after America and Europe basically denuded their own continents.

    Same with Europe and USA polluting the planet for a 100+ years with oil- and coal-fired electric plants, and now ing about India and China for doing the same.

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    Back to the topic at hand- to the cists with selective ignorance and abundant partisan bias:

    Why can't we work a plan out that works for our country created by our country?

    I don't get you scists. You pretend to be anti-globalist but support every globalist movement so long as it's anti-Republican. So is partisanship trumping globalism in your long list of things to (incorrectly) about.

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    the US currently emits twice as much as india despite having 1/4 of their population... but yes lets made india the bad guy here

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    Trying to compare European deforestation to American. We still have a ton of forests in the country. When taken across its area, the US is actually not very densely populated like the Old World is. Destroying our river systems is a much bigger problem than our trees, though China doesn't give a about those either.

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    China and India both have extremely aggressive strategies IN PROGRESS (not planned) to move to renewables, wind and solar.

    It's the same bull of America and Europe telling South America to protect its forests, after America and Europe basically denuded their own continents.

    Same with Europe and USA polluting the planet for a 100+ years with oil- and coal-fired electric plants, and now ing about India and China for doing the same.
    and when india initiated a large scale solar power project in order to provide electricity to over 300,000 people, the U.S. spurned the WTO to sue India for trade agreement violations.

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    and when india initiated a large scale solar power project in order to provide electricity to over 300,000 people, the U.S. spurned the WTO to sue India for trade agreement violations.
    and what was the dispute about? did the US aim to stop india from completing their solar power project?

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    and what was the dispute about? did the US aim to stop india from completing their solar power project?
    this is about the most neutral article i could find that points out both sides of the argument. india has since lost its appeal to the WTO. i will add that it's pretty common knowledge what country runs the WTO.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35668342

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    the US currently emits twice as much as india despite having 1/4 of their population... but yes lets made india the bad guy here
    India's problem is not CO2 -- it's people ting everywhere.

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    this is about the most neutral article i could find that points out both sides of the argument. india has since lost its appeal to the WTO. i will add that it's pretty common knowledge what country runs the WTO.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35668342
    yes so the complaint was that india's solar plan had a local-only provision, meaning they were going to spend more money for the same product. basically trumponomics.

    the problem is, if india is going to receive billions in foreign aid, and even get projects from the Green Climate Fund, and they are purposely using that money on more expensive products, then that's not going to fly, nor should it.

    if you were on welfare and the government sees you leasing a bmw...

    i'm sure that greedy companies also stand to benefit by getting into a foreign market, but if india isn't economically independent, then they have less of a say. that's just the way it is. the US wasn't trying to stop india from going solar, they were trying to stop india from using deliberately more expensive products partially paid for by international funds.

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    India's problem is not CO2 -- it's people ting everywhere.
    also all the damn cows that they refuse to eat

    but really, the problem with india is their massive population, and quarter of them (basically the population of the US) currently dont have access to power. so they're one of the countries that really needs to ramp up it's energy production to meet it's demand. if they decide to ramp up that way using CO2 based fossil fuels, it won't be pretty and they'll move up on the emitters list (currently #4 if you count all of EU as 1 nation)

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    Why do we need a globalist wealth-transfer scheme when switching to nuclear would actually be effective?

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