NBA: Media is saying KD is better than the King *rolling eyes*

[DMC]

No. Most people with a brain will realize that Durbeta is playing with a 0/10 degree of difficulty this series while LeBron's is 10/10.

If Durbeta was better than LeBron, he wouldn't have choked that 3-1 lead in the WCF last year against a team that LeBron beat with a worse supporting cast than OKC's.

This makes no sense. KD is playing against Lebron. If Lebron is that good, then KD's challenge wouldn't be 0/10. If KD is that poor, Lebron's challenge wouldn't be 10/10. You cannot have it both ways.

[LkrFan]

David Blatt was fired after making the Finals in his first season and being something like 33-11 in the middle of his second. I don't think Lebron would let Tyron get fired, but he might get "help" in the form of a real coach who acts as an assistant, if they can pull anyone into that role. Sounds like a good place for Manu Ginobili, but I am not sure Lebron is coachable. At this point in his career, he's franchise mentality and so he probably listens more to Rich Paul than Tyronn Lue.

Lebron is nearing the stage in his career where he needs another "take over" type player so he can rest. Kyrie hasn't been that for him, and in fact there was at least one game where Kyrie and Love were bench for the entire 4th quarter as the Cavs made a comeback to win. I don't think Frye, Smith and Jones are transcendent enough at the arc to stage any meaningful coup of Irving and Love, but Irving and Love might need to go. They both do well in some games but neither is reliable down the stretch, and Love is one injury after another. Still, Lebron traded Andrew Wiggins for him. Chris Paul would be better than Irving since Chris isn't ball dominant. So Lebron, Paul, maybe KAT one the same team. But they still need at least one or two semi-elite 3 and D guys to fill the starter roles and Klay and Danny would be good for that. Klay isn't leaving on his own though, I think he's going to have to be forced out due to funding.

Seems like a pipe dream for Cleveland but it doesn't have to happen in Cleveland. Lebron could get his own super team elsewhere, maybe with the Lakers.

Explain the bolded son. SMH

[Clipper Nation]

This makes no sense. KD is playing against Lebron. If Lebron is that good, then KD's challenge wouldn't be 0/10. If KD is that poor, Lebron's challenge wouldn't be 10/10. You cannot have it both ways.

It makes perfect sense. Durbeta's offensive stat lines are a product of Curry sucking up all the defensive attention, allowing him to feast on single coverage, wide-open shots and transition. This would not be happening if he wasn't on the most stacked team in history. Because he barely even has to try on offense, that frees him up to play stifling defense on the other end without tiring himself out.

Compare that to LeBron. Because the rest of his team has been choking all series and simply isn't as talented as the Warriors, he has to go 110% on offense from the opening tip just to keep the game compe ive at halftime. And that's with pretty much all the attention of the Warriors' elite defense focused on him. He can't sit for a nanosecond without the Cavs collapsing. Just that alone has left him gassed by the end of games, now imagine if he tried to play up to his usual standards on defense! Of course, even if he had the luxury of going all-out on defense, he would get in foul trouble immediately with how this Warriors team is being officiated.

Bottom line: Durbeta has an enormous margin of error. LeBron has no margin of error. Durbeta has it piss-easy, just like he wanted. LeBron has an impossible job on his plate.

[Clipper Nation]

Chris Paul would be better than Irving since Chris isn't ball dominant.

Fat Hands

[LkrFan]

Fat Hands

[DMC]

Explain the bolded son. SMH

Meaning Chris doesn't feel the need to score every time he has the ball, and his time of possession is less than Wall, Westbrook, Harden and a few others. Irving has been negated by Lebron being on the court, but When Irving does get the ball, he's thinking pass to Lebron or score. Chris has the ability to see the entire court. I do like Irving though, I think his handles are better than Chris's, but Chris has great handles as well.

Kyrie averages more FGA this season than Lebron, Chris averages less than Blake or Jamal Crawford at under 13 a game (Kyrie has almost 20 a game).

That doesn't mean Lebron needs more touches. It means the ball doesn't move. Same thing happened in OKC and in GS pre-Kerr.

[DMC]

Fat Hands

You should avoid the NBA forum, you know jack about basketball, just scoreboarding and player felching.

[Clipper Nation]

Meaning Chris doesn't feel the need to score every time he has the ball

That's not the same as "not being ball dominant," Fat Hands. Our entire offense when he's on the court is based on him hogging the ball and overdribbling. His lack of aggression to score only makes things worse. There's a reason why nobody likes playing with him.

[DMC]

It makes perfect sense. Durbeta's offensive stat lines are a product of Curry sucking up all the defensive attention, allowing him to feast on single coverage, wide-open shots and transition. This would not be happening if he wasn't on the most stacked team in history. Because he barely even has to try on offense, that frees him up to play stifling defense on the other end without tiring himself out.

He barely has to try in his first season but he's worthless.

Compare that to LeBron. Because the rest of his team has been choking all series and simply isn't as talented as the Warriors, he has to go 110% on offense from the opening tip just to keep the game compe ive at halftime. And that's with pretty much all the attention of the Warriors' elite defense focused on him. He can't sit for a nanosecond without the Cavs collapsing. Just that alone has left him gassed by the end of games, now imagine if he tried to play up to his usual standards on defense! Of course, even if he had the luxury of going all-out on defense, he would get in foul trouble immediately with how this Warriors team is being officiated.

So Lebron cannot get his team to play decent basketball after 3 years with them but he's a god. unfair

Bottom line: Durbeta has an enormous margin of error. LeBron has no margin of error. Durbeta has it piss-easy, just like he wanted. LeBron has an impossible job on his plate.

Miami loses to SA, Lebron leaves and goes to Cleveland because now they have a roster full of 1st overall picks, and he can trade a few of them for whomever he wants. He picks Kevin Love. He gets JR Smith, Shumpert, Channing Frye, and has Kyrie Irving as his point guard. He as a 4th overall draft pick in Tristan Thompson who basically is a step-n-fetch player for Lebron. He had Andrew Bogut for about 20 minutes. Cleveland goes on to win the East 3 consecutive times, winning 1 ring in the process. Meanwhile the Warriors acquire KD and don't lose much (lol Bogut/Festus/Mo Speights/Harrison Barnes being equal to KD) and they learned how to play ball together. The superstar 2x MVP PG shares his glory with the incoming superstar, nary a cross word was spoken. There was no "not one, not two, not three" bull speech.

For some reason you see that equation as unbalanced toward the Warriors.

Your boy should learn how to play team basketball, he's talked about it for years. Someone should introduce him to it.

[DMC]

That's not the same as "not being ball dominant," Fat Hands. Our entire offense when he's on the court is based on him hogging the ball and overdribbling. His lack of aggression to score only makes things worse. There's a reason why nobody likes playing with him.

His time per possession was addressed. He ranks 7th in the league but only 12 or so FGA a game means he's not an up tempo player because it's not an up tempo system. You have a ty coach, there's nothing wrong with your team.

[Clipper Nation]

His time per possession was addressed. He ranks 7th in the league but only 12 or so FGA a game means he's not an up tempo player because it's not an up tempo system. You have a ty coach, there's nothing wrong with your team.

We have a ty coach that Choke-P forced us to hire. Not that it matters. He's the Peyton Manning of the NBA: he's going to play his way, no matter who the coach is, regardless of how many times he chokes in the playoffs doing it his way.

Aside from that excuse, you basically just rephrased my point. Choke Paul hogs the ball too much, but doesn't even look to score. It's the worst of both worlds: all the drawbacks of ballhogging without enough of the scoring production.

Boiled down:::you were wrong per par, and instead of admitting it, you're moving the goalposts and making excuses per par.

[unleashbaynes]

If Lebron even wins one game in this series it'll be a miracle tbh.....hopefully the refs go the other way and rape the Warriors tonight.

[monosylab1k]

They do this every year with the best player on the Finals winning team. They tried to push that Curry was the best player after the last GS le. Van Gundy was even proclaiming Dirk as the best player in the world right after 2011

Everyone with a brain knows it's still LeBron so whatever.

[DMC]

We have a ty coach that Choke-P forced us to hire. Not that it matters. He's the Peyton Manning of the NBA: he's going to play his way, no matter who the coach is, regardless of how many times he chokes in the playoffs doing it his way.

Aside from that excuse, you basically just rephrased my point. Choke Paul hogs the ball too much, but doesn't even look to score. It's the worst of both worlds: all the drawbacks of ballhogging without enough of the scoring production.

Boiled down:::you were wrong per par, and instead of admitting it, you're moving the goalposts and making excuses per par.

Put Chris on a team with someone who can create off the dribbble like Kawhi or Lebron, and some real spot up shooting where Chris knows where they are going to be, and get a real coach that runs a system Chris could learn, you'd see a different Chris Paul, just like we saw a different Boris Diaw and Marco Belinelli.

[Clipper Nation]

Put Chris on a team with someone who can create off the dribbble like Kawhi or Lebron, and some real spot up shooting where Chris knows where they are going to be, and get a real coach that runs a system Chris could learn, you'd see a different Chris Paul, just like we saw a different Boris Diaw and Marco Belinelli.

You could give Choke Paul the most perfect team ever built and he would still slow it down and dribble out the shot clock because it's all he knows. He's a selfish control freak who doesn't play well with others. His own former and current teammates have called him out on this in the media, but I'm sure a fat-handed autist on SpursTalk knows better.

Porker has gotten to play with Kawhi for years now, and we've still never seen a different Porker. He's the same old overdribbling heroballer. Why would things be any different with a similar player whose ego is even bigger? As for LeBron, you just got done arguing that he can't make his teammates play team ball. Now you're arguing that he'd make Choke-P play team ball? Pick a lane.

[DMC]

You could give Choke Paul the most perfect team ever built and he would still slow it down and dribble out the shot clock because it's all he knows. He's a selfish control freak who doesn't play well with others. His own former and current teammates have called him out on this in the media, but I'm sure a fat-handed autist on SpursTalk knows better.

And Robert Horry just said Hakeem was 20x better than Tim. Chris Paul is widely recognized as one of the best PGs in the game. Steve Nash never won , but he was a of a PG. Same with John Stockton and until Dallas, Jason Kidd.

Porker has gotten to play with Kawhi for years now, and we've still never seen a different Porker. He's the same old overdribbling heroballer. Why would things be any different with a similar player whose ego is even bigger? As for LeBron, you just got done arguing that he can't make his teammates play team ball. Now you're arguing that he'd make Choke-P play team ball? Pick a lane.

Yet Tony is near last in the league in time per possession. You need to define your parameters, no use in arguing against your eyeball test.

[LkrFan]

Ahem:

[webshad]

So what happened to all the KD is the best player in the world talk now?

These medias are soooo crooked in sports and world news, it's unbelievable.