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Holy I had totally forgotten about that...Missing the playoffs in your prime.
Jordan retiring.
Only 2 rings.
Getting traded at the end.
Well put. Horry's words are such a polar opposite that what basically everyone else has said that you have think he has an agenda of some sort.
Holy I had totally forgotten about that...Missing the playoffs in your prime.
Jordan retiring.
Only 2 rings.
Getting traded at the end.
Despite your silly attempt at Manu I take what he said as a sign of respect. Just mentioning Manu next to a championship says it all. He will never say that about your beloved ParkerManure getting called a playoff choker, something we all knew btw
but he dives for the ball
HOTS showed up, always. Horry knows
Hakeem was good for a few years until he declined overnight. He cannot be compared to Duncan, jesus
My view of him was always that his peak was pretty damn short. The Rockets finally emerged and won 2 les and then after that he kind of went away pretty quick. Jordan came back to the league and the rockets were never in serious contention ever again. Even when they tried to put together a super team with Pippen in Barkley they didn't do anything. in that second season they won the championship their regular-season record was awful.
Hakeem's peak was one of the greatest peaks I have ever seen but it was only for 2 years. As a player he massively underachieved. He had a stretch from 87-92 where he couldn't get out of the first round along with missing the playoffs one year. He didn't have the patience or IQ Duncan had to win more with less talent until the tail end of his prime which coincided with his 2 championships. He's massively overrated due to his 93-95 run.
Makes one think about the sort of egos Pop kept in check. Dude has a massive ego.
Not sure what the big deal is. Horry wants to get a regular gig on ESPN, so he's ripping on Spur players, like most other commentators still left on that network.
The only thing arguable is peak Duncan vs. peak Hakeem, quite close tbh.. now in terms of career Duncan >> Hakeem.
LOL U AND TACO BELL BLOATED WILL SMITH FACE ASSSSS
I remember a play in the 2003 finals i think it was game 1, Timmy forces the miss, grabs the rebound, and fires a perfect strike down court to a running Stephen Jackson for the dunk, all in one sequence. Timmy could control the game in all phases like a very rare few that have ever played basketball...
Now he backpedals like a son of a LOL!! Clown much..
LOL U AND TACO BELL BLOATED WILL SMITH FACE ASSSSS
One of the best outlet passers ever.
I've had enough of this . This is the biggest load of I've ever heard.
I used to say that if I was starting a team I'd take either Olajuwon or Duncan. Now that Robert Horry has made me think about it, I would always take Tim Duncan and not just because I'm biased. I'd rather a great, strong foundation that stands the test of time rather than a slightly higher ceiling that only lasted/lasts for 2-3 years.
Anyone remember that game where the Dream Team II went up against a college team? The game where the college team was going up against them and pushed them, well that team had a young Tim Duncan that gave those legendary centers on the Dream Team all they could handle, and that was before he even played an NBA game. Shea Seals, anyone remember him? No, exactly. Tim Duncan pushed those kids up to another level. He has always been legendary.
Hakeem had a good 2 or 3 year stretch and that's it. Hakeem and Horry too. He can go Hakeem up the ass if he likes him that much. I ing wish the '95 Spurs had some better players around D Rob so we don't have to keep hearing this . If you're asking me right now, I'd even take D Rob over Hakeem. I feel D Rob got short changed in the all-time great arguments, and that IMO all because he never had a great supporting cast. I think prime D Rob would have kicked ass had he had a great supporting cast like some of these clowns. Take out anyone from this current Warriors team and replace them with a prime D Rob right now, and that team could anyone up.
Oh, and if Robert Horry had of been better in 2004 and 2006, and maybe even 2008, then yeah, he may have had close to ten rings. Why the didn't he step up in those years, especially 2004 and 2006. ing, . Why doesn't he take some of the blame?
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Lmao at the kiddie dorks on this thread saying hakeem had a 'short peak' and was only good 94-95 lmfao..those were actually the LAST years of his peak...the guy was an absolute beast on both ends of the floor since the mid 80's..he put up some of the most ridiculous numbers of any player ever, and his playoff numbers were even more insane. They were playing in the west with the showtime lakers for gods sake and still got to the Finals his second season, where they have a good fight to the peak Bird Celtics who were considered of of the best teams of all time. He may have not had a good enough team, and the right time, to win les until 94 but to say he was ho-hum prior to that is insanely stupid
Yep. For all Hakeem's greatness (and he was great), he had 9 first round exits, including being swept 3 times and blown out 6 times in the postseason, in his 18-year career. For a Center people seem to treat like a God, offensively he never even led the league in shot % once. He got dominated by a 39 year-old Kareem who dropped 46 points on him. An old Artis Gilmore averaged 60% from the field against him in a series. Hakeem was also outshot, outrebounded, outassisted, and outblocked by Shaq in the '95 Finals that he supposedly "dominated" The Diesel in. And lastly, Hakeem averaged a combined 9 PPG in his last 3 seasons... his game fell off big time those last 3 years, and in his final season with the Raptors he was beyond washed, whereas Duncan was still contributing to a perennial le contender til his very last game.
Have a look at the record all of those Rockets teams. 40 wins, 42 wins, 45 wins (they're not exact win totals, but it gives you the idea of how mediocre they were). Yeah, he was so great that most of his teams were in the 40 win column. Why did the Lakers always get to the finals? Well that is because the West sucked ass back then and most of Hakeem's teams weren't good enough. He was also a very selfish player, so again, the more I think about it, there is no comparison to Tim Duncan.
That's the TD I remember!!
I love tim duncan. He was amazing in every way. But id still take hakeem first. Its super close, but hakeem was simply a tad better player. What team is put around him isnt really his to control.
Can you even imagine what he would do in todays league? He was putting up anthony davis numbers in an era stacked sith dominant bigs and low scoring grind it out games
The bold simply isn't true, Hakeem's era was every bit(often more so) as high scoring and fast paced as the league is now, and a great deal more so than when Duncan was in his prime 99-07. That coupled with how perimeter oriented the league is now, I don't really see him breaking the league. He'd still be far and away the best big man obviously.
That's like saying Curry isn't the best three-point shooter ever because he's never lead the league in 3-point percentage. Percentage isn't just based on skill, but difficulty or lack thereof.
Guys like Olajuwon and Duncan were better at creating their own shot than guys like O'Neal and Howard, but because they weren't overpowering, freak athletes (young Olajuwon was the latter, but not former), who could feast on a steady diet of dunks, they naturally had lesser field goal percentages.
The dumbest argument, in virtually any player comparison, is counting stats. Advanced stats, era, mindset, teammates, all have to be factored in to have the proper context. You can't just take someone's raw totals and surmise that that's all a player was capable of averaging.
Great point and post.
Rob is wrong
Hakeem is 50 times better than Duncan
TD never had Hakeem's athleticism.
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