Horry: "Hakeem was 20 times better than Duncan and I'd have 10 rings if Manu would...

[tmtcsc]

TD never had Hakeem's athleticism.

Few players have. David RObinson, Shawn Kemp, Chris Webber?

[tmtcsc]

The bold simply isn't true, Hakeem's era was every bit(often more so) as high scoring and fast paced as the league is now, and a great deal more so than when Duncan was in his prime 99-07. That coupled with how perimeter oriented the league is now, I don't really see him breaking the league. He'd still be far and away the best big man obviously.

You are wrong...by a lot. Check here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_1994.html

In 1993 (The first year the Rockets won a Championship), the highest scoring team (Phoenix Suns) averaged 108 pts a game. This season, there were at least 6 teams that averaged more. Also, there were 10 teams that averaged less than 100 pts per game. This season, only the Mavericks failed to do so.

[Brazil]

Rob is wrong



Hakeem is 50 times better than Duncan

you are on the stupid business lately ?

go root for the rockets tbh

[TD4THREE]

You are wrong...by a lot. Check here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_1994.html

In 1993 (The first year the Rockets won a Championship), the highest scoring team (Phoenix Suns) averaged 108 pts a game. This season, there were at least 6 teams that averaged more. Also, there were 10 teams that averaged less than 100 pts per game. This season, only the Mavericks failed to do so.

Nice job cherry picking one season. Notice how I said "era" which implies more than one season. I can show you several seasons from Hakeem's day that were higher scoring, in fact the league had higher scoring averages every year up until he was 30.

Look at this chart and tell me Hakeem's era was slow paced and low scoring. http://www.basketball-reference.com/...NBA_stats.html

League scoring averages Hakeem's first 11 seasons

(84-85) 110.8 ppg
(85-86) 110.2 ppg
(86-87) 109.9 ppg
(87-88) 108.2 ppg
(88-89) 109.2 ppg
(89-90) 107.0 ppg
(90-91) 106.3 ppg
(91-92) 105.3 ppg
(92-93) 105.3 ppg
(93-94) 101.5 ppg
(94-95) 101.4 ppg

League scoring averages last three seasons

(16-17) 105.6 ppg
(15-16) 102.7 ppg
(14-15) 100.0 ppg

[Spurtacular]

Dude is a pussy beta. Coat ridding and now he thinks he good.

Cept in Game 5 of the 2005 Finals. And you're a pussy beta, so I'm sure you have no problem spotting your kind, though.

[Thomas82]

If Michael Jordon didn't retire, you will have 5 fewer rings..muahaha

If Sean Elliott would have passed his physical, Horry might not have a ring.

[poop]

Nice job cherry picking one season. Notice how I said "era" which implies more than one season. I can show you several seasons from Hakeem's day that were higher scoring, in fact the league had higher scoring averages every year up until he was 30.

Look at this chart and tell me Hakeem's era was slow paced and low scoring. http://www.basketball-reference.com/...NBA_stats.html

League scoring averages Hakeem's first 11 seasons

(84-85) 110.8 ppg
(85-86) 110.2 ppg
(86-87) 109.9 ppg
(87-88) 108.2 ppg
(88-89) 109.2 ppg
(89-90) 107.0 ppg
(90-91) 106.3 ppg
(91-92) 105.3 ppg
(92-93) 105.3 ppg
(93-94) 101.5 ppg
(94-95) 101.4 ppg

League scoring averages last three seasons

(16-17) 105.6 ppg
(15-16) 102.7 ppg
(14-15) 100.0 ppg

The game was undeniably slower and fundamentally different. Back then teams were built around dominant bigs and would post up more and most teams didnt shoot or make that many 3's. Today teams revolve around penetrating point guards, they shoot TONS of 3's, and LA is virtually the only true post up big left in the game. Virtually all the 3 point records are from the last 4-5 years. I hakeems day he was going up against dominant bigs almost every game, bird/mchale, kareem, ewing, robinson, shaq, mourning, malone etc and defending the same class of guys yet still put up gigantic numbers that frankly destroy anything duncan ever put up (hard to say cause i love TD).
He wasnt '20 times' or any of that bull better...it was suuuuper close...hakeem is literally one of only 3-4 players all time id draft over duncan...but he was a taaad better overall

[BatManu20]

From throwing shade at Timmy to throwing hands at his youth basketball camp. Also, Horry looks like he weighs at least 300 lbs here...

[TheChillFactor]

Lol fighting at a kids basketball game

[cd98]

Probably fighting with someone from Spurs talk calling BS on his Duncan and Manu statements.

[RD2191]

Lol. What a bum. Horry, old salty ass got.

[dbreiden83080]

TD never had Hakeem's athleticism.

Tim in his prime was actually a very underrated athlete IMO. He was never a big jumper, but he ran the floor like a deer, and had great handles for a big. Amazing hands, Tim could catch anything.

[Thomas82]

Tim in his prime was actually a very underrated athlete IMO. He was never a big jumper, but he ran the floor like a deer, and had great handles for a big. Amazing hands, Tim could catch anything.

+1

[TheChillFactor]

What has the world come to when "Spurs fans" are taking Hakeem The Jihadi Dream over Duncan???

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...errorism_x.htm

[bklynspursfan]

Tim in his prime was actually a very underrated athlete IMO. He was never a big jumper, but he ran the floor like a deer, and had great handles for a big. Amazing hands, Tim could catch anything.

Yea people forget how quick and athletic young Timmy was. There's plenty of footage of him out there tho for those who never saw him at that age.

[Phenomanul]

Yea people forget how quick and athletic young Timmy was. There's plenty of footage of him out there tho for those who never saw him at that age.

Including that game against D-Rob, Shaq and Hakeem in preparation for the 1996 Atlanta Games... The USA Select Team almost beat the Dream Team II that game. Duncan was the cog that made that possible.

[Capt Bringdown]

If Hakeem would have had a player of Parker's magnitude on his squad, he would have retired with more rings. It's amazing that Hakeem was able to notch 2 rings with the likes of Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell, Sam Cassell and ball-hog, No-D Drexler in the backcourt.

[cd98]

If Hakeem would have had a player of Parker's magnitude on his squad, he would have retired with more rings. It's amazing that Hakeem was able to notch 2 rings with the likes of Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell, Sam Cassell and ball-hog, No-D Drexler in the backcourt.

Kenny Smith and Sam Cassell were high quality players. Maxwell was kind of like Jonathan Simmons meets Stephen Jackson.

[rastaspur]

If Hakeem would have had a player of Parker's magnitude on his squad, he would have retired with more rings. It's amazing that Hakeem was able to notch 2 rings with the likes of Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell, Sam Cassell and ball-hog, No-D Drexler in the backcourt.

I disagree. Way more talent on those rockets teams than the spurs first championship team by a mile. I will take a Vernon maxwell over jaren Jackson or avery johnson.

[skulls138]

Avery was a great PG. I thought that before he was on the Spurs but still think Rockets were a better team than 99 Spurs. Robinson was mostly defense when Duncan was there, best version of twin towers....speaking of Rockets.

[Capt Bringdown]

Rockets ty backcourt is why they got bounced from the playoffs in 96 & 97. Amazing what Hakeem was able to do with those turds in 94/95.

[cd98]

Avery was a great PG. I thought that before he was on the Spurs but still think Rockets were a better team than 99 Spurs. Robinson was mostly defense when Duncan was there, best version of twin towers....speaking of Rockets.

No. Robinson was still elite in 1999. Robinson dipped around 2002ish.

[Buddy Mignon]

Hakeem was damn good and in his prime, probably better than Duncan, but my memory is he aged poorly and dropped off significantly. End of the day, people look at rings and Duncan has more and as many accolades.

Jim never defended his and never won a gold. What the are you talking about.

[rastaspur]

Avery was a great PG. I thought that before he was on the Spurs but still think Rockets were a better team than 99 Spurs. Robinson was mostly defense when Duncan was there, best version of twin towers....speaking of Rockets.

He was an offensive liability. His last few seasons he managed to hit a wide open 15 foot jumper with some frequency.

Great and avery johnson should never be put in the same sentence.

Well, maybe great recruiter is fitting for this current season of college basketball. He managed to land Colin sexton and hardy.

Alabama should have a good shot at making a lengthy ncaa tournament run this year.

[Buddy Mignon]

The game was undeniably slower and fundamentally different. Back then teams were built around dominant bigs and would post up more and most teams didnt shoot or make that many 3's. Today teams revolve around penetrating point guards, they shoot TONS of 3's, and LA is virtually the only true post up big left in the game. Virtually all the 3 point records are from the last 4-5 years. I hakeems day he was going up against dominant bigs almost every game, bird/mchale, kareem, ewing, robinson, shaq, mourning, malone etc and defending the same class of guys yet still put up gigantic numbers that frankly destroy anything duncan ever put up (hard to say cause i love TD).
He wasnt '20 times' or any of that bull better...it was suuuuper close...hakeem is literally one of only 3-4 players all time id draft over duncan...but he was a taaad better overall

No iitwas not super close. Hakeem would have wiped his ass with Jim just like he did pillow lips.