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    dershowitz is one of the more respected legal minds in the country. that doesn't mean he's immune from criticism or mistake. supreme court justices are typically among the most respected legal minds... until they start having opinions that have political ramifications.

    nobody will doubt that scalia was a an on the bench, but people disagree with his interpretations all the time.

    erwin chemerinsky is one of the more notable cons utional law scholars around, too. he's the author of the most frequently used con-law casebook used in law schools, but he called trump's travel ban illegal, something i'm sure many of you have argued against

    its pretty foolish to hold up on respected scholar as a definitive source. people have been arguing cons utional issues for centuries

    i dont think obstruction of justice and the cons utional authority to fire the FBI director are mutually exclusive. richard nixon had the authority to fire his attorney general, but look at what happened with the saturday night massacre... (also bork... er had no integrity)
    Setting aside the cons utional arguments that have gone on for centuries, Comey himself said he doesn't know of a single case being brought on "hope". Obstruction of justice is DOA

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    I thought so too. He may as well be. But in the case of Trump he's all in.

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    Your point was you would post a dozen articles yet you ended up posting 3 CNN YouTube videos
    Did you actually think I was going to spend hours looking for individual links? LMAO

    They're there. I'm just not going to waste my time proving a positive.

    But yet again you dodge my questions. They're piling up now. lol

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    I said I'd retract if answered my question. Go.
    Like you're answering mine.

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    Yet he's shilling for Trump.

    He said Trump travel ban wasn't uncos utional. Has defended him with the Flynn issue, and now he's all over Comey.

    That forms a trend despite whether he's right or wrong. He's not particularly leaning right. Just defending Trump on all these issues.
    nah reck... dershowitz was a hillary supporting liberal, and only bends right when it comes to jewy issues

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/al.../21/id/754762/

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-trump-227242

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...cons utional

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    Setting aside the cons utional arguments that have gone on for centuries, Comey himself said he doesn't know of a single case being brought on "hope". Obstruction of justice is DOA

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    one of the better analogies i had heard came from the daily show (which i admittedly have rarely watched since stewart stepped down)...

    if vito corleone was talking to you and said "i really hope you're going to pay me by next week"

    i think there's a different implication when somebody in a position of power is talking to you that way. earlier in the conversation trump was asking comey if he wanted to stay on as FBI director... and then pushes him to halt an investigation. fires him not too long after.

    i'm not sayin it amounts to obstruction necessarily, but i dont think it's DOA based on his use of the word "hope"

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    You left some of the interaction off. On purpose?

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    one of the better analogies i had heard came from the daily show (which i admittedly have rarely watched since stewart stepped down)...

    if vito corleone was talking to you and said "i really hope you're going to pay me by next week"

    i think there's a different implication when somebody in a position of power is talking to you that way. earlier in the conversation trump was asking comey if he wanted to stay on as FBI director... and then pushes him to halt an investigation. fires him not too long after.

    i'm not sayin it amounts to obstruction necessarily, but i dont think it's DOA based on his use of the word "hope"
    It'd be DOA even if Trump told him to shut it down AND shut it down. Terrible terrible optics if he'd done that, but still no obstruction of justice.

    Comey testified Trump "hoped" one time. omg

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    You left some of the interaction off. On purpose?
    referring to this? i didnt think they were impactful


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    It'd be DOA even if Trump told him to shut it down AND shut it down. Terrible terrible optics if he'd done that, but still no obstruction of justice.

    Comey testified Trump "hoped" one time. omg
    i dont think we're necessarily disagreeing here. i dont think the use of the word "hope" is dispositive of the issue
    i'm not sayin it amounts to obstruction necessarily, but i dont think it's DOA based on his use of the word "hope"

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    Did you actually think I was going to spend hours looking for individual links? LMAO

    They're there. I'm just not going to waste my time proving a positive.

    But yet again you dodge my questions. They're piling up now. lol
    Silly me thinking a confirmed Welcher would actually do what he said he'd do and provide a dozen articles backing his re ed claim. My bad Reck.

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    I said I'd retract if answered my question. Go.
    Your question is irrelevant to the discussion, so I'm not bothering with it.

    The NYT was quoting Comey's memos the day before the Trump tweet.
    We'll accept your retraction and apology for promoting fake news whenever you're ready.

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    Comey said he leaked them because Trump said he had tapes---the tweet. The NYT was quoting Comey's memos the day before the Trump tweet. Not sure how or why you consider Comey lying during testimony brilliant.
    Anyone see post, yes?

    Please to tell TSA. Have question.

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    Silly me thinking a confirmed Welcher would actually do what he said he'd do and provide a dozen articles backing his re ed claim. My bad Reck.
    Back to welching? You did as well so it appears we're on the same boat.

    And why do you continue to dodge my questions? Just say you have no answer to the questions and we move on.

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    referring to this? i didnt think they were impactful

    Yes that.

    We will just agree to disagree on the impact of hope. Seems like we are somewhat on the same page past that point.

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    Your question is irrelevant to the discussion, so I'm not bothering with it.



    We'll accept your retraction and apology for promoting fake news whenever you're ready.
    It's completely relevant and that is why you won't answer.

    Let's just skip the bull . The exact quotes and story from the May 11th article were from the Comey memos reported on days later. I retract the statement that the May 11th story said memos.

    Comey leakedPERIOD.

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    one of the better analogies i had heard came from the daily show (which i admittedly have rarely watched since stewart stepped down)...

    if vito corleone was talking to you and said "i really hope you're going to pay me by next week"
    Kamala Harris made a great one too, I thought.

    “In my experience of prosecuting cases,” Harris said, "when a robber held a gun to somebody’s head and said 'I hope you will give me your wallet,' the word hope was not the most operative word.”

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    Back to welching? You did as well so it appears we're on the same boat.

    And why do you continue to dodge my questions? Just say you have no answer to the questions and we move on.
    "on the same boat"

    You're a FOB for sure

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    Kamala Harris made a great one too, I thought.

    “In my experience of prosecuting cases,” Harris said, "when a robber held a gun to somebody’s head and said 'I hope you will give me your wallet,' the word hope was not the most operative word.”
    g of course you would think that's a great analogy

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    even though he made sure to clear the room first, and had brought up loyalty while threatening comeys job, if trump said hope then he must have literally meant hope. who are we to not give the potus the benefit of the doubt hes earned so well?

    lol at what the chicken s will say to convince themselves were not under the rule of a piece of

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    "on the same boat"

    You're a FOB for sure
    More dodgy posts. lol Living up to your nickname cuck.

    g of course you would think that's a great analogy
    Because...wait for it.....it is.

    You live on cloud 9 and reality is not your strong suit.

    You're better off answering those pesky question or continue looking like a hapless fool.

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    More dodgy posts. lol Living up to your nickname cuck.



    Because...wait for it.....it is.

    You live on cloud 9 and reality is not your strong suit.

    You're better off answering those pesky question or continue looking like a hapless fool.
    What ing pesky questions are you talking about? This is the only question I can find you asked me.

    Who starts an article saying I am right, everyone else is wrong?
    Alan Morton Dershowitz starts an article like that. Any other pesky questions?

    Are you going to post the dozen articles you promised or just pull made and welch again?

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    you are one stupid mother er Reck I almost feel bad for taking advantage, but I did take time off so I don't

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    I ask again but nervous about character broken.
    i don't know what this is, but its funny.
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