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    Looks like the Clippers will have to make some panic moves before free agency to keep the band together.They will try to swing trade for Melo in the next couple of weeks, IMO..
    I have thought that myself..but would they have to give up Blake??

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    Looks like the Clippers will have to make some panic moves before free agency to keep the band together.They will try to swing trade for Melo in the next couple of weeks, IMO..
    Melo won't do for them but suck up cap space and shot attempts. I don't think the Clippers are serious about winning a ring. They are serious about putting on a show.

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    Melo won't do for them but suck up cap space and shot attempts. I don't think the Clippers are serious about winning a ring. They are serious about putting on a show.
    I agree that it is all about the optics and not actual future results...The Clippers are tormented more by the prospect of them reverting to being a perennial league doormat if they lose CP/Blake rather than by a failure to winning a le in the next few years despite committing to gargunatuan payroll...

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    CP3 going to Spurs and Griffin to Celtics would be good for the NBA.

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    CP3 going to Spurs and Griffin to Celtics would be good for the NBA.
    If the CP3 decides not to come to SA. What are chances that Jimmy Butler can be had for the right price?

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    LeBron is such a self absorbed , going to a ty Lakers team would accomplish what exactly?

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    Plus the fact that Tony is injured and Manu may retire or in any case, at 40 ... the Spurs have a huge need for playmaking at the guard spots.... He's assured also that this is a team that needs his help and that he can contribute to. That's important to players of his stature (Durant admits he wouldn't have joined GSW if they had won last season.... he needs to feel like he was helping them get over th hump, etc.)

    Right on the money. Also, the fact that Spurs really aren't that far away from the Warriors. Every game that Kawhi played the Spurs had a 20 point lead on the Warriors this season would give anyone like Paul the mindset that with him they could take a 7 game series from the Dubs.


    Spurs are a lot further away than the following numbers indicate, but if/when they get a meeting, part of the presentation should be that they had 4 20+ point leads on them last season compared to the rest of the NBA's 3 and they're also the only team with a winning record against them the past 3 seasons, having led for 55.6% of the time, 8.9% ahead of the next closest team.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...snt-exist-yet/

    Another positive, is Re is not expected to be re-signed and they don't have the means to replace him. Declining or not, he's still their fourth best player, so that's not insignificant.

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    LeBron is such a self absorbed , going to a ty Lakers team would accomplish what exactly?
    Lebron wants to become a billionaire

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    Lebron wants to become a billionaire
    He already is. He signed last season a lifetime billion(+) dollar Nike deal.

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    He already is. He signed last season a lifetime billion(+) dollar Nike deal.
    Wow

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    ...Technically.


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    Spurs are a lot further away than the following numbers indicate, but if/when they get a meeting, part of the presentation should be that they had 4 20+ point leads on them last season compared to the rest of the NBA's 3 and they're also the only team with a winning record against them the past 3 seasons, having led for 55.6% of the time, 8.9% ahead of the next closest team.


    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...snt-exist-yet/

    Another positive, is Re is not expected to be re-signed and they don't have the means to replace him. Declining or not, he's still their fourth best player, so that's not insignificant.
    Numbers never lie, unfortunately Zaza knows numbers...

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    Numbers never lie, unfortunately Zaza knows numbers...
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    Besides, LeBron would never come to the Western Conference, he would have to work to get to the Finals.

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    Lebron taking his talents to LA, or playing infront of empty seats at the AT&T Center. Easy choice tbh...

    Wouldnt be surprised if they bring Kawhi over as well after he's tired of playing with the Kyle Andersons, Danny Greens, and Dewayne Dedmons of the NBA.

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    Besides, LeBron would never come to the Western Conference, he would have to work to get to the Finals.
    W/ the Spurs (along Kawhi and possibly CP3) he wouldn't have to work . Worriers and Spurs should dismantle the League and the WCF would be the real Finals. Same scenario as if he stays in the East.

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    I really hope all FA wanting to go to LA doesn't become a thing again. They are a disaster of a franchise and dont deserve built in advantage.

    I mean, every star has gotten rich beyond their wildest dreams outside of LA the past 10 years. Why is this a damn thing again?

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    W/ the Spurs (along Kawhi and possibly CP3) he wouldn't have to work . Worriers and Spurs should dismantle the League and the WCF would be the real Finals. Same scenario as if he stays in the East.
    This. The west is ing overrated, at the end of the day you have to get past Golden State regardless. Joining the Spurs would make it even more of a cakewalk to get to the WCF...

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    It's just not worth it. He's never had to play off the ball which he would have to do if they wanted to go all the way. He'd also be massively overpaid the last couple of years of his contract as he'd be in decline by then.

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    It's just not worth it. He's never had to play off the ball which he would have to do if they wanted to go all the way. He'd also be massively overpaid the last couple of years of his contract as he'd be in decline by then.
    What other options are there though? I mean, I voiced your concerns as well, but if you want to go at GS, what more can you do?

    Assuming you dump Pau & TP (plus Mills/Dedmon) to get CP, a lineup of:

    CP/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Kyle Anderson is a beast defensive unit and still damn good offensively (better than this years offense at least).

    Then you have a solid bench of: Murray/Hanga/Simmons/Bertans/Lee/Forbes/Draft Pick/FA Big. I mean, it's not perfect, but what can you do that "guarantees" you have more talent than GS? Nothing. But you still have to try and do something soon IMO.

    I'm not worried about year 3/4 tbh..You'll know by year 1/2 if that is good enough and if it's not, everyone can be traded. Especially guys with name value like CP3.

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    What's CP3's opinion of Jerry West?



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    What other options are there though? I mean, I voiced your concerns as well, but if you want to go at GS, what more can you do?

    Assuming you dump Pau & TP (plus Mills/Dedmon) to get CP, a lineup of:

    CP/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Kyle Anderson is a beast defensive unit and still damn good offensively (better than this years offense at least).

    Then you have a solid bench of: Murray/Hanga/Simmons/Bertans/Lee/Forbes/Draft Pick/FA Big. I mean, it's not perfect, but what can you do that "guarantees" you have more talent than GS? Nothing. But you still have to try and do something soon IMO.

    I'm not worried about year 3/4 tbh..You'll know by year 1/2 if that is good enough and if it's not, everyone can be traded. Especially guys with name value like CP3.
    The scenario you gave is the only one I could live with. A lot of it boils down to whether Anderson can be a good 3 point shooter. I really think that changes a lot. Opponents would have to close out hard on him & he would be able to attack the closeout which would utilize his passing and then he becomes an extremely effective role player in a system with plenty of ball movement. The other option is, you let Murray develop and barring injury, GSW 3-peat IMO. After that, Klay will be off contract and Iguodala will no longer be an elite role player (though they may find others). Kawhi would still have 5 years of his prime left after this. It's a tough call, but you've got to trade him early if you can see it's not going to work. I suppose another thing you have to consider, is apart from LMA, no big names have ever signed with SA. So if there is a chance to add a Top 10 player, still in their prime, you've almost got to.

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    What other options are there though? I mean, I voiced your concerns as well, but if you want to go at GS, what more can you do?

    Assuming you dump Pau & TP (plus Mills/Dedmon) to get CP, a lineup of:

    CP/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Kyle Anderson is a beast defensive unit and still damn good offensively (better than this years offense at least).

    Then you have a solid bench of: Murray/Hanga/Simmons/Bertans/Lee/Forbes/Draft Pick/FA Big. I mean, it's not perfect, but what can you do that "guarantees" you have more talent than GS? Nothing. But you still have to try and do something soon IMO.

    I'm not worried about year 3/4 tbh..You'll know by year 1/2 if that is good enough and if it's not, everyone can be traded. Especially guys with name value like CP3.
    Also, how do you think CP3 would go without the ball? There's probably never been a smarter player in NBA history, so surely he could figure out cuts and things pretty easily? He's also a decent 3 point shooter. Wouldn't you need a dive man as well if he signs?

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    What's CP3's opinion of Jerry West?


    I wonder if he's aware that CP3 is considering the Spurs.

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